Perhaps I'm hoping Bowles will become a little more of a "Head Coach" rather than a "Transitional Defensive Coordinator Stepping in Because Nobody Has a Better Idea and He Won't Piss Off The Veterans." That contract extension should be his cue that it's time for him to be Head Coach for a change, rather than just another one of Licht's employees. Does he have to be Andy Reid or Mike Tomlin? That'd be nice, but not gonna happen. But can he move a little more in that direction? He should and he could.
Relax. Just joshin ya.
It's up to Grizz, and Grizz alone,
We've been lucky to hire two straight rookie OCs and people think lets do it again! Now we hire one with even less experience. Canales was 44, Coen had play calling experience as a coordinator in college and the pros. Griz at 35 is the youngest playcalling OC in the league with no experience of being in charge in either college or pros. Wide receivers coach? Passing game coordinator?
The Bucs are pushing their luck to say the least with Griz. You say Griz makes the decisions. Perhaps you're right if history is any indication. But at some point some how some way Bowles not being that strong leader is going to come to roost. I don't know. Bowles is Bowles. Perhaps it's just wishful thinking that we can get a guy like Arians or Gruden or Dungy. A guy who takes charge.
But at some point some how some way Bowles not being that strong leader is going to come to roost.
So a young team sticks together through adversity and the HC is NOT a strong leader?
I would say that Bowles letting Grizz experiment and then do what he chooses is the definition of strong leadership
We've been lucky to hire two straight rookie OCs and people think lets do it again! Now we hire one with even less experience. Canales was 44, Coen had play calling experience as a coordinator in college and the pros. Griz at 35 is the youngest playcalling OC in the league with no experience of being in charge in either college or pros. Wide receivers coach? Passing game coordinator?
I agree on the premise that sooner or later, the luck is gonna run out.
Hopefully, the streak continues.
Bowles deserves some credit, but I attribute a lot of that to the leadership of the veteran players. Bowles is someone who fits into the mix as the Bucs are today, with a dominant, successful GM and veteran leaders. He has taken a difficult situation with Arians retiring and a horrible offensive coordinator and made the best of it. I don't have a problem with what Bowles has done so far.But at some point some how some way Bowles not being that strong leader is going to come to roost.
So a young team sticks together through adversity and the HC is NOT a strong leader?
I would say that Bowles letting Grizz experiment and then do what he chooses is the definition of strong leadership
Where do we go from here? We want to win another Superbowl.
Is Bowles a Superbowl caliber head coach? Because it's reportedly a Superbowl caliber team. Arians, Gruden and Dungy were Superbowl winning coaches. It takes a different level of leadership to take a team to the Superbowl. That doesn't mean you have to bark orders and give quotable quotes like what about the execution I'm in favor of it. But IMO it's a different level of leadership than Bowles has been required to demonstrate so far.
But Bowles is Bowles. I don't expect a huge change in personality. Of course that never happens to anyone. So the question is does he fit into the category of Arians, Gruden and Dungy - Superbowl caliber head coaches? There has to be a little teaspoon of fear mixed in with a cup of respect. Is there any fear factor with Bowles? Can he take another step forward now that he has his new contract?
Can we win a Superbowl with Bowles?
Denying that Bowles is a strong leader, is twisting it. He clearly held the team together through tough times.But at some point some how some way Bowles not being that strong leader is going to come to roost.
So a young team sticks together through adversity and the HC is NOT a strong leader?
I would say that Bowles letting Grizz experiment and then do what he chooses is the definition of strong leadership
But the team needs to show progress, that has to be a factor.
However, Bowles is beginning to get the defensive help he’s needed in the secondary, and the d-line. If that gets us to NFL average, the offense is approaching elite (or will be once Tristan, Godwin, and JMac), and this team will be very good and will do some damage.
Denying that Bowles is a strong leader, is twisting it. He clearly held the team together through tough times.
Thanks, Bowles for all you've done. As I've said, I have no major problems with how Bowles has maneuvered this team in the last couple years. Now he has a new contract and the Bucs are in the window.
Here's a simple yes/no question for you:
Is Bowles capable of leading this Bucs team to a Superbowl this year?
Is Bowles capable of leading this Bucs team to a Superbowl this year?
Yes but being capable and doing it are very different things because it takes more than a good team to get there.
Sure. Like Chucky or Bruce Arians, before they did it.Denying that Bowles is a strong leader, is twisting it. He clearly held the team together through tough times.
Thanks, Bowles for all you've done. As I've said, I have no major problems with how Bowles has maneuvered this team in the last couple years. Now he has a new contract and the Bucs are in the window.
Here's a simple yes/no question for you:
Is Bowles capable of leading this Bucs team to a Superbowl this year?
Until someone does it, they’re capable, but do they have the team?
Marv Levy was capable, until he retired (or maybe a few years before he retired).
Of course injuries can derail a season on any team, but as far as the offensive coordinator - Bowles hired Grizzard or at least went along with it, so that's his credit or blame to take, depending on how things turn out. They could have gone outside the organization and found an experienced guy. Bowles could have insisted on that. He went with Grizzard so he owns that.Is Bowles capable of leading this Bucs team to a Superbowl this year?
Yes but being capable and doing it are very different things because it takes more than a good team to get there.
Of course injuries can derail a season on any team, but as far as the offensive coordinator - Bowles hired Grizzard or at least went along with it, so that's his credit or blame to take, depending on how things turn out. They could have gone outside the organization and found an experienced guy. Bowles could have insisted on that. He went with Grizzard so he owns that.Is Bowles capable of leading this Bucs team to a Superbowl this year?
Yes but being capable and doing it are very different things because it takes more than a good team to get there.
yes just like he owns Canales and Coen and not Leftwich
:-)
He went with Grizzard so he owns that.
Grizz has a tough job because he's not sneaking up on anyone like Coen did
We’re all rooting for Grizz.Of course injuries can derail a season on any team, but as far as the offensive coordinator - Bowles hired Grizzard or at least went along with it, so that's his credit or blame to take, depending on how things turn out. They could have gone outside the organization and found an experienced guy. Bowles could have insisted on that. He went with Grizzard so he owns that.Is Bowles capable of leading this Bucs team to a Superbowl this year?
Yes but being capable and doing it are very different things because it takes more than a good team to get there.
BTW, not that it matters since we’re all Buc fans and we picked Grizz, but who did you initially prefer as OC?
It’s only interesting because it’s just before the season starts now and it’s kinda early for re-opening the “are we sure about this?” type scenarios.
I mean at this point, it could go either way…but we’re kinda set.
As BC infers, hiring OC track record is largely intact.
Gotta roll with who we have.
We’ll all see, soon.
I'm rooting for Griz too. I"m not saying he was the wrong pick. If he is successful then Bowles should get the credit for hiring him. They did interview Alex Van Pelt who had experience as an OC. I understand why they went with Griz - in house, not changing the system, he's a smart guy.We’re all rooting for Grizz.Of course injuries can derail a season on any team, but as far as the offensive coordinator - Bowles hired Grizzard or at least went along with it, so that's his credit or blame to take, depending on how things turn out. They could have gone outside the organization and found an experienced guy. Bowles could have insisted on that. He went with Grizzard so he owns that.Is Bowles capable of leading this Bucs team to a Superbowl this year?
Yes but being capable and doing it are very different things because it takes more than a good team to get there.
BTW, not that it matters since we’re all Buc fans and we picked Grizz, but who did you initially prefer as OC?
It’s only interesting because it’s just before the season starts now and it’s kinda early for re-opening the “are we sure about this?” type scenarios.
I mean at this point, it could go either way…but we’re kinda set.
As BC infers, hiring OC track record is largely intact.
Gotta roll with who we have.
We’ll all see, soon.
But when the "Superbowl" word is associated with your team then you have the right to question whether you have the right coaches to take it to that level. I hope so. I mean there's no going back now of course, so we'll just have to see how the cards play out.
I agree, Baker has said he was glad the pick was Grizz, even though he had worked with AVP, continuity was key for the offense and for the staff.
Ship is underway, full steam ahead.
Put Griz up in the booth and he can stay above the fray and focus.
Falcons going the other way
Head coach Raheem Morris told reporters in his Monday press conference that offensive coordinator Zac Robinson will move from the coach’s booth to the field.
Via Will McFadden of the team’s website, Morris noted a main reason Robinson will move is to improve communication and “get [Robinson] closer to the action.”