I should've added above, that if Coen isn't promoted, it's extremely likely he will get multiple offers to be HC elsewhere during the offseason. The buzz around him right now is off the charts. Either Licht throws an obscene amount of $$$ at him to stay on as OC, or he has to be promoted, imo. Just off the top of my head I can think of at least 8 teams that almost certainly will be giving him a call as soon as practical. NYJ, JAX, LVR, NYG, DAL, CHI, CAR and NOR will all have him on speed-dial by now.
I should've added above, that if Coen isn't promoted, it's extremely likely he will get multiple offers to be HC elsewhere during the offseason. The buzz around him right now is off the charts. Either Licht throws an obscene amount of $$$ at him to stay on as OC, or he has to be promoted, imo. Just off the top of my head I can think of at least 8 teams that almost certainly will be giving him a call as soon as practical. NYJ, JAX, LVR, NYG, DAL, CHI, CAR and NOR will all have him on speed-dial by now.
highly doubt LVR or CAR move on from their coaches after one year - not like the expectations were high with those shit show of franchises
I am projecting 6 openings this offseason - New York Jets, Jacksonville Jaguars, Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, New Orleans Saints
I think Ben Johnson with the Detroit Lions will be the most highly sought after coordinator
I think Bill Belichick after a year off, may decide to come back but likely looking at a team like the Eagles or Cowboys.
after seeing Canales get a gig after 1 year, yes certainly think Coen will get some interviews at least.
Still would rank some guys like Todd Monken, Baltimore or Bobby Slowik, Houston, ahead of him. Maybe even Kellen Moore with the Eagles.
The only hope we have is that there is not as much turnover this year which will limit the openings.
I should've added above, that if Coen isn't promoted, it's extremely likely he will get multiple offers to be HC elsewhere during the offseason. The buzz around him right now is off the charts. Either Licht throws an obscene amount of $$$ at him to stay on as OC, or he has to be promoted, imo. Just off the top of my head I can think of at least 8 teams that almost certainly will be giving him a call as soon as practical. NYJ, JAX, LVR, NYG, DAL, CHI, CAR and NOR will all have him on speed-dial by now.
highly doubt LVR or CAR move on from their coaches after one year - not like the expectations were high with those shit show of franchises
I am projecting 6 openings this offseason - New York Jets, Jacksonville Jaguars, Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, New Orleans Saints
I think Ben Johnson with the Detroit Lions will be the most highly sought after coordinator
I think Bill Belichick after a year off, may decide to come back but likely looking at a team like the Eagles or Cowboys.
after seeing Canales get a gig after 1 year, yes certainly think Coen will get some interviews at least.
Still would rank some guys like Todd Monken, Baltimore or Bobby Slowik, Houston, ahead of him. Maybe even Kellen Moore with the Eagles.
The only hope we have is that there is not as much turnover this year which will limit the openings.
Maybe. Here's the thing: Tepper has shown a propensity for throwing away HCs like used toilet paper. And he hasn't balked at having to pay off a HC's remaining salary one time. I think he's an idiot when it comes to football, but I won't be shocked if he moves on from Canales at the end of the year
As for LVR, well I'm going a little by historical precedent here, but interim HCs that fail on the level that AP has almost aways get shown the door after just a single full season. And the word is that he's lost the locker room already. Davis may have no choice but to go HC shopping at the end of this season.
And Coen's rep is exploding like a runaway wildfire after these last two games, in spite of the losses to both KC and SF. The fact that Coen was able to get a hamstrung offense to score the 2nd most points that KC has given up this season and nearly knock off SF on a short week hasn't gone unnoticed around the league, even if it has in TB. And there are a lot of toothless offenses out there joined to decent to good defenses.
And Coen is already better than both Slowik and Moore. And I don' think it's close.
Finally, I really doubt Bill is going to DAL, unless JJ gives him total control, and I just don't see that happening. I think Bill will want PHI first, then maybe TB.
FWIW, even with the Panthers owner being an absolute nut I doubt Canales is on the hot seat. he has gotten the most out of the owner's QB (recently) AFTER benching him and he's got his Marshawn Lynch" (Hubbard) extended and the team fully buying in:
https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/chuba-hubbard-dave-canales-kay-adams-respect-carolina-panthers
Canales
“It takes me back to — and I’m not comparing him to this player — but it takes me back to in 2010 where the Seahawks traded for Marshawn Lynch right before the (trade) deadline,” Canales said. “And it was about looking for the style, looking for the attitude. The toughness that fit the kind of football team that we want to be.
“As we went through those first games early on, and really just consistently through, Chuba has represented what I’m looking for as far as the run game goes. And as far as the mentality of the players we’re looking for. And so I just couldn’t be happier.”
If then Bucs go 6-1 to finish the season and the Falcons go 3-4, The Bucs will win the NFCS.
Doubt the Bucs fore Bowles if the Bucs win the NFCS.
That means nothing. $10 million or so dollars is chump change. The Bucs being in the playoffs and making a Superbowl run is worth a lot more than $10 mil to the Glazers. If they don't think Bowles will get this team over the hump next year and they think someone else can then he'll be gone. I don't think they wait until the team totally tanks to cut the cord. Sure, if he makes the playoffs then he'll probably save his job. That's the only way IMO. And according to the odds quoted on this board the Bucs are about 30% at best to make the playoffs, and I think that's pretty much what it is. And it's partly because of how they are losing games. They are not finishing, not showing they know how to win big games.remember, he has 2 years left on his deal after this year. Would think next year would be the make or break year for Bowles. They wont let him coach 2026 on an expiring deal so they will make the decision next year whether to extend or fire
This just about sums it up.
That's a big "if", and it's a big difference between 5-2 and going 9-8 and missing the playoffs vs. 6-1 and probably making the playoffs at 10-7. And if they go 9-8, sneak in and get summarily dispatched in the first round that's not worth much either.If the Bucs go on another run and finish 6-1 or 5-2 no way I see Bowels getting let go much to my dismay...
that's a pretty big IF
They will be favored in 6 out of 7 games, assuming Dak is out. They will likely lose the Chargers, Saints, and one of the Panthers games so 8-9 is most likely outcome.
that is where i say its 75% chance he returns, 20% chance they try to keep Coen and pull a Lovie, and 5% chance they go all out for their Belichick.
if they somehow finish 10-7, then yeah Bowles keeps his job, like 99%, with the 1% chance they try to retain Coen.
The Bucs being in the playoffs and making a Superbowl run
I think this is the flawed premise in most of these discussions. I think the team is still focused on the $ rebuild
That said, I recently changed my view to Bowles retiring after this season
There ain't enough room in the entire state of Texas for Bill Belichick and Jerry Jones egos, let alone the city of Dallas. Ain't no way Bill B lands in Dallas. Maybe Philly or Tampa sure, but not Dallas.
If then Bucs go 6-1 to finish the season and the Falcons go 3-4, The Bucs will win the NFCS.
Doubt the Bucs fore Bowles if the Bucs win the NFCS.
we are 3 games back with 7 to go. Need cousins to go down with an injury for this to be possible
If Tristan didn’t go down for 5 weeks, Mike were to come back, and we had Chris, I would say 7-0/6-1 were on the table. With Skule at LT…I think there could be at least another loss.
your thread caught the eye of PewterReport TV
https://www.pewterreport.com/bill-belichick-todd-bowles-bucs-pewter-pulse/
Yes it seems like SR and I are on the same wavelength on this one. He didn't dismiss the idea and in fact agreed with most of the points I made in the original post whether it was just a coincidence or not who knows.your thread caught the eye of PewterReport TV
https://www.pewterreport.com/bill-belichick-todd-bowles-bucs-pewter-pulse/
It was Belichick himself who fueled this speculation with his comments. Of course nothing can be done to undermine Bowles while the Bucs still have even an outside chance of making the playoffs. But if the Bucs are effectively eliminated (and I don't mean mathematically) then that all changes. Then the back room bargaining can begin.
Trask Force on fire
https://www.pewterreport.com/bill-belichick-jason-licht-reunion-bucs/
What kind of defense does Belichick run? Google AI says "Belichick's defense is designed to be "positionless" and match up with more fluid offenses." Bowles also likes versatile players such as Tykee Smith. "Belichick uses stunts and games to confuse the offense. For example, a pirate stunt involves two pass rushers crossing one gap, opening up a gap on the other side." Again, Bowles uses a lot of creativity in the pass rush, so players currently on the team should not be total strangers to Belichick's style of defense. Online commentors seem to focus on his ability to adapt to his players and the team he is facing. He was known for a 3-4 defense, but his scheme has change a lot over the years.Trask Force on fire
https://www.pewterreport.com/bill-belichick-jason-licht-reunion-bucs/
Do you think Belichick would know what to do with Vea and Kancey in the middle? That's a good starting point. He'd need some linebackers to fit his system, but that's going to be a priority regardless of who's coaching.
Tonight Florio was trying to be the matchmaker for the Jaguars and Belichick, but again how long would it take him to get to 15 games with a team that currently has two wins? He'd have to rebuild it from the ground up there. He's not going to win 15 games in one year, so where's he going to win 15 games in two years? That's the best he can hope for. It will take him longer than that in Jax if he gets there at all.
