@catherder - I really can’t see Belichick in Tampa Bay. He has always acted as both GM/HC/DC. Sure, Bill professed his admiration for Licht, but it was interesting that his praise was around Licht’s scouting prowess - I think that’s how he sees him - but no one said anything about how Licht would respond to Bekichik.
also, Belichick’s success was always tied to Brady. As long as he had Brady, he was successful - but before & after Brady - not so much.
Also, what would happen to Coen, if he has opportunity - no way he sticks around as a second fiddle indefinitely.
I could see a more likely transition option from Bowles-to-Coen being sold to Coen, for the same reasons you outlined (Bucs relative rostered offensive talent), and identifying/acquiring a DC that could utilize the defensive pieces already in the roster, and to run a similar 3-4 alignment.
I think the Bucs would be an attractive destination, but I think the Bucs ownership & staff are looking for a specific type of HC - and Belichik ain’t at the top of that list.
i mean he’s better than Bowles but we should get an offensive minded guy in todays nfl
and bill should be nowhere near GM. Much like Gruden, worst at assessing talent.
and with bill, you are guaranteed to have McDaniels as OC which is a downgrade
licht -Coen likely better duo
Don't we have an offensive mind in Coen? If Coen really wants to make a career for himself as a top NFL coach he would be well advised to serve a couple years under perhaps the all time great head coach rather than allowing himself to be thrown into the fire on some bad team. If he sticks with the Bucs he could be heir apparent after Belichick leaves. Belichick wants one more shot for 15 wins. 15 is the magic number which he should get in two years.i mean he’s better than Bowles but we should get an offensive minded guy in todays nfl
and bill should be nowhere near GM. Much like Gruden, worst at assessing talent.
and with bill, you are guaranteed to have McDaniels as OC which is a downgrade
licht -Coen likely better duo
Jerod Mayo was the heir apparent in New England for five years according to the owner. He had a clause in his contract in 2023 which made it official. Why not put a similar clause in Coen's contract? You keep the continuity on offense and Coen has no reason to leave.
@catherder No way Coen is going to wait for two years - and try to do so while working with Belichik - plus, don’t think Belichik is going to be forced to take on an offensive coaching staff.
To be honest, I wouldn’t be thrilled with it either, but someone absolutely will… it’s hip to think Jerry Jones is targeting him, but school’s out on whether those two egos could coincide.
Coen really wants to make a career for himself as a top NFL coach he would be well advised to serve a couple years under perhaps the all time great head coach rather than allowing himself to be thrown into the fire on some bad team
Doesn’t really work that way. HC in NFL is a tough job to get so if the opportunity presents itself they jump at it.
Canales said as much last year
but we should get an offensive minded guy in todays nfl
And, we already have him on staff.
Yes we do and one way or another we need to keep Coen. If we lose Coen I don't think you can expect the team to improve when they would yet again have to adjust to a new system. Baker had familiarity with Coen. There's no reason to think he'd have that kind of familiarity with the next guy. Keeping Coen and maintaining continuity on offense is non-negotiable. But I think Belichick at this stage of his career would actually insist on keeping Coen as opposed to tolerating him or wanting to bring in his own guy. Maybe I'm totally wrong. Maybe the old man wants to build a team from the ground up and take total control of every aspect of the operations like in New England. Common sense says he wouldn't want to do all that in his 70s, but I really don't know what's in his mind.but we should get an offensive minded guy in todays nfl
And, we already have him on staff.
This is not going to happen, and it would not be anything I’d like to see. You would not retain Coen, not sure Belichick would ever even be on our radar.
Keeping Coen and maintaining continuity on offense is non-negotiable.
He’s not going anywhere.
Don't we have an offensive mind in Coen? If Coen really wants to make a career for himself as a top NFL coach he would be well advised to serve a couple years under perhaps the all time great head coach rather than allowing himself to be thrown into the fire on some bad team. If he sticks with the Bucs he could be heir apparent after Belichick leaves. Belichick wants one more shot for 15 wins. 15 is the magic number which he should get in two years.i mean he’s better than Bowles but we should get an offensive minded guy in todays nfl
and bill should be nowhere near GM. Much like Gruden, worst at assessing talent.
and with bill, you are guaranteed to have McDaniels as OC which is a downgrade
licht -Coen likely better duo
Jerod Mayo was the heir apparent in New England for five years according to the owner. He had a clause in his contract in 2023 which made it official. Why not put a similar clause in Coen's contract? You keep the continuity on offense and Coen has no reason to leave.
you cant have both
Belichick ego wouldn't allow him to keep Coen as OC. He will go with McDaniels who has been his OC for something like 15 years.
you cant teach an old dog new tricks. Well, maybe girlfriend who is 50 years younger can, but i digress.
If that's the case the Bucs won't hire Belichick. The Bucs want to win in 2025, not take a year to adjust to the installation of a new offense. And Belichick wants to win as well. He has one goal - win 15 more games. He'll be 73 at the start of the next football season. He doesn't have time to fail. He has one more shot, and then it's over. He needs everything to be set up for him so he can just coach. You say he's too stubborn and will never change, he'll want to shop for the groceries, cook them and eat them all by himself. Well if that's the case I don't think he's going to be successful in getting those 15 games no matter where he goes. But I think he's smarter than that. I could be wrong. Only people close to him would know his mindset.Don't we have an offensive mind in Coen? If Coen really wants to make a career for himself as a top NFL coach he would be well advised to serve a couple years under perhaps the all time great head coach rather than allowing himself to be thrown into the fire on some bad team. If he sticks with the Bucs he could be heir apparent after Belichick leaves. Belichick wants one more shot for 15 wins. 15 is the magic number which he should get in two years.i mean he’s better than Bowles but we should get an offensive minded guy in todays nfl
and bill should be nowhere near GM. Much like Gruden, worst at assessing talent.
and with bill, you are guaranteed to have McDaniels as OC which is a downgrade
licht -Coen likely better duo
Jerod Mayo was the heir apparent in New England for five years according to the owner. He had a clause in his contract in 2023 which made it official. Why not put a similar clause in Coen's contract? You keep the continuity on offense and Coen has no reason to leave.
you cant have both
Belichick ego wouldn't allow him to keep Coen as OC. He will go with McDaniels who has been his OC for something like 15 years.
you cant teach an old dog new tricks. Well, maybe girlfriend who is 50 years younger can, but i digress.
Its doubtful he does this and he keeps his own guys which was the New england team with Mac jones, I dont think BB is the right fit for Tampa
Welp that's that. TKras was speculating he didn't want to give up his power over the personnel side of things. Perhaps I was wrong to think he was so consumed with getting the wins record that he would do that. Or perhaps there just wasn't anybody in the NFL interested in him period, including the Bucs.
Perhaps we'll never know, or perhaps we will. Sometimes the truth comes out over time.
