He did succeed with the Bears.
Well, I mean of course in terms of going all the way.His record is stellar, no doubt. However, there is a portion that thinks he could never "finish the job".
"No doubt" Really? Over the last 6 seasons, he was virtually a 9-7 coach with 1 playoff appearance. Anyone who needs 6 years to "finish the job", and couldn't... I wouldn't exactly say he was "stellar".
Do you think his teams should have won more than what Lovie was capable of leading them to?
He did succeed with the Bears.
Well, I mean of course in terms of going all the way.His record is stellar, no doubt. However, there is a portion that thinks he could never "finish the job".
"No doubt" Really? Over the last 6 seasons, he was virtually a 9-7 coach with 1 playoff appearance. Anyone who needs 6 years to "finish the job", and couldn't... I wouldn't exactly say he was "stellar".
Yo have to put into context that this was with an aging D and no quarterback. Never finished below 7-9Again, by succeed, i mean win a championship. This is not to say he didn't do well otherwise.
So you're saying that the "stellar job" that he did in Chicago was to build a great defense and over the next 6 years was unable to continue that progression and never find a QB? That's a "stellar job"? I think The Anomoly is dead on with this. He's Tony Dungy 2.0. He'll be able to build a slightly better than mediocre team that will fail to get over the hump. You know, kind of like what he did in Chicago. I don't think this team will actually ever finish below 7-9 under Lovie either. I think what he'll do here is basically what he did in Chicago. May have a lucky season, but the rest will fall between 7-9 and 10-6 and almost never make the playoffs. I mean, that's fine if your goal is "slightly better than average". My standards are a tad higher than that.
Then you must find it difficult to be a Bucs fan =(
Then you must find it difficult to be a Bucs fan =(
I have lately.
He did succeed with the Bears.
Well, I mean of course in terms of going all the way.His record is stellar, no doubt. However, there is a portion that thinks he could never "finish the job".
"No doubt" Really? Over the last 6 seasons, he was virtually a 9-7 coach with 1 playoff appearance. Anyone who needs 6 years to "finish the job", and couldn't... I wouldn't exactly say he was "stellar".
Yo have to put into context that this was with an aging D and no quarterback. Never finished below 7-9Again, by succeed, i mean win a championship. This is not to say he didn't do well otherwise.
So you're saying that the "stellar job" that he did in Chicago was to build a great defense and over the next 6 years was unable to continue that progression and never find a QB? That's a "stellar job"? I think The Anomoly is dead on with this. He's Tony Dungy 2.0. He'll be able to build a slightly better than mediocre team that will fail to get over the hump. You know, kind of like what he did in Chicago. I don't think this team will actually ever finish below 7-9 under Lovie either. I think what he'll do here is basically what he did in Chicago. May have a lucky season , but the rest will fall between 7-9 and 10-6 and almost never make the playoffs. I mean, that's fine if your goal is "slightly better than average". My standards are a tad higher than that.
lol . . .like the insurance policy on your predicition
He did succeed with the Bears.
Well, I mean of course in terms of going all the way.His record is stellar, no doubt. However, there is a portion that thinks he could never "finish the job".
"No doubt" Really? Over the last 6 seasons, he was virtually a 9-7 coach with 1 playoff appearance. Anyone who needs 6 years to "finish the job", and couldn't... I wouldn't exactly say he was "stellar".
Yo have to put into context that this was with an aging D and no quarterback. Never finished below 7-9Again, by succeed, i mean win a championship. This is not to say he didn't do well otherwise.
So you're saying that the "stellar job" that he did in Chicago was to build a great defense and over the next 6 years was unable to continue that progression and never find a QB? That's a "stellar job"? I think The Anomoly is dead on with this. He's Tony Dungy 2.0. He'll be able to build a slightly better than mediocre team that will fail to get over the hump. You know, kind of like what he did in Chicago. I don't think this team will actually ever finish below 7-9 under Lovie either. I think what he'll do here is basically what he did in Chicago. May have a lucky season, but the rest will fall between 7-9 and 10-6 and almost never make the playoffs. I mean, that's fine if your goal is "slightly better than average". My standards are a tad higher than that.
If he's Tony Dungy 2.0, the plan is to find Bill Polian 2.0 to give him Peyton Manning 2.0 and then we don't have to worry about offense anymore. Isn't it amazing the Dungy who couldn't coach offense in Tampa became coach of an offensive team once he got a good QB?
I think my expectations have been so lowered that I would be thrilled with a 9-7 season next year, its kind of sad really. At least we know it will be drama-free now that gap tooth is gone.
I like the hire, but to me, Lovie seems a lot like DUNG-y.I hope he proves me wrong, but again, I'm glad we got him!!!
He did succeed with the Bears.
Well, I mean of course in terms of going all the way.His record is stellar, no doubt. However, there is a portion that thinks he could never "finish the job".
"No doubt" Really? Over the last 6 seasons, he was virtually a 9-7 coach with 1 playoff appearance. Anyone who needs 6 years to "finish the job", and couldn't... I wouldn't exactly say he was "stellar".
Yo have to put into context that this was with an aging D and no quarterback. Never finished below 7-9Again, by succeed, i mean win a championship. This is not to say he didn't do well otherwise.
So you're saying that the "stellar job" that he did in Chicago was to build a great defense and over the next 6 years was unable to continue that progression and never find a QB? That's a "stellar job"? I think The Anomoly is dead on with this. He's Tony Dungy 2.0. He'll be able to build a slightly better than mediocre team that will fail to get over the hump. You know, kind of like what he did in Chicago. I don't think this team will actually ever finish below 7-9 under Lovie either. I think what he'll do here is basically what he did in Chicago. May have a lucky season , but the rest will fall between 7-9 and 10-6 and almost never make the playoffs. I mean, that's fine if your goal is "slightly better than average". My standards are a tad higher than that.
lol . . .like the insurance policy on your predicition
It's not a prediction. It's a statement towards the laws of averages. I think you can pretty much say that about virtually every coach who isn't in the "great" category.
He did succeed with the Bears.
Well, I mean of course in terms of going all the way.His record is stellar, no doubt. However, there is a portion that thinks he could never "finish the job".
"No doubt" Really? Over the last 6 seasons, he was virtually a 9-7 coach with 1 playoff appearance. Anyone who needs 6 years to "finish the job", and couldn't... I wouldn't exactly say he was "stellar".
Yo have to put into context that this was with an aging D and no quarterback. Never finished below 7-9Again, by succeed, i mean win a championship. This is not to say he didn't do well otherwise.
So you're saying that the "stellar job" that he did in Chicago was to build a great defense and over the next 6 years was unable to continue that progression and never find a QB? That's a "stellar job"? I think The Anomoly is dead on with this. He's Tony Dungy 2.0. He'll be able to build a slightly better than mediocre team that will fail to get over the hump. You know, kind of like what he did in Chicago. I don't think this team will actually ever finish below 7-9 under Lovie either. I think what he'll do here is basically what he did in Chicago. May have a lucky season , but the rest will fall between 7-9 and 10-6 and almost never make the playoffs. I mean, that's fine if your goal is "slightly better than average". My standards are a tad higher than that.
lol . . .like the insurance policy on your predicition
It's not a prediction. It's a statement towards the laws of averages. I think you can pretty much say that about virtually every coach who isn't in the "great" category.
It is a prediction, no matter who you charcaterize it. Your prediction is that the team will be like Chicago . . . AND . . (don't forget the insurance policy) . . if you are wrong its because Lovie got "lucky." I mean, I did not see the same caveat for underperformance (i.e., "bad luck")? You're basically disparaging others ("if your goal is "slightly better than average". My standards are a tad higher than that.") with a pretty watered down (i.e., safe) prediction that already explains away the instance where you are wrong.
He did succeed with the Bears.
Well, I mean of course in terms of going all the way.His record is stellar, no doubt. However, there is a portion that thinks he could never "finish the job".
"No doubt" Really? Over the last 6 seasons, he was virtually a 9-7 coach with 1 playoff appearance. Anyone who needs 6 years to "finish the job", and couldn't... I wouldn't exactly say he was "stellar".
Yo have to put into context that this was with an aging D and no quarterback. Never finished below 7-9Again, by succeed, i mean win a championship. This is not to say he didn't do well otherwise.
So you're saying that the "stellar job" that he did in Chicago was to build a great defense and over the next 6 years was unable to continue that progression and never find a QB? That's a "stellar job"? I think The Anomoly is dead on with this. He's Tony Dungy 2.0. He'll be able to build a slightly better than mediocre team that will fail to get over the hump. You know, kind of like what he did in Chicago. I don't think this team will actually ever finish below 7-9 under Lovie either. I think what he'll do here is basically what he did in Chicago. May have a lucky season , but the rest will fall between 7-9 and 10-6 and almost never make the playoffs. I mean, that's fine if your goal is "slightly better than average". My standards are a tad higher than that.
lol . . .like the insurance policy on your predicition
It's not a prediction. It's a statement towards the laws of averages. I think you can pretty much say that about virtually every coach who isn't in the "great" category.
It is a prediction, no matter who you charcaterize it. Your prediction is that the team will be like Chicago . . . AND . . (don't forget the insurance policy) . . if you are wrong its because Lovie got "lucky." I mean, I did not see the same caveat for underperformance (i.e., "bad luck")? You're basically disparaging others ("if your goal is "slightly better than average". My standards are a tad higher than that.") with a pretty watered down (i.e., safe) prediction that already explains away the instance where you are wrong.
My last statement was based on your comment where you "bolded" 1 sentence. As a whole, yes, my prediction is that over the next 5 years this team will be between 7-9 and 9-7 for 4 of them. I think there's a chance that if the stars align and things click, a 12-4 season is possible. I don't think he'll have a 4-12 season... I believe he's too good for that. Overall though, he'll probably be about 7 or 8 games over .500 with 1 playoff appearance. In other words... a lot like his tenure in Chicago. Of course though, I have no idea how he's going to address the QB position. I believe that if he sticks with Glennon, my statements will most likely come to fruition. If he does get a real franchise QB, I think he could have a very long tenure here with a lot of success. I don't think Lovie will be a bad coach, I think he'll be decent. But I'd rather have better than "decent".
he did succeed. Name another coach that has lasted over 9 years with a team. It's highly unusual.Currently I can only think of Belichick and maybe Tomlin is getting close.
Marvin Lewis will be on year 12 next seasonMike McCarthy just finished his 8th so will last 9.Sean Payton will make it to 9 year next season (well technically 8 if you count the suspension)Belichick as mentionedTom CoughlinWhen an over an 8th of the league has a coach that will have been with the team 9 or more years headed into next year it's no longer "highly unusual."
Almost all of the coaches you just named have elite quarterbacks with the exception of Marvin Lewis and maybe even Tom Coughlin. A franchise QB can make any coach look good. Lovie never had that, yet still lasted 9 years.
Pretty much the only slam dunk pick was Matt Forte
Don't forget Tommie Harris and Lance Briggs
So now Lovie gets credit for drafting Briggs in 2003 when Smith was only hired in 2004 hired.Does the hype know no ends?
ha!