He's a lefty. They said it in the article. That's a problem for some teams. Well one of those teams has to be the Bucs. What's the problem? The Bucs will be investing a fortune in left tackle Tristan Wirfs to protect the QBs blind side. There's a reason left tackles generally are more valued than right tackles - because they are protecting the blind side. Now you bring in a lefty QB and suddenly the blind side is the other side. They already switched Wirfs from RT to LT. They're not going to switch him back. Period.
Look if it was just an ordinary left tackle it wouldn't be such a big deal, but Tristan Wirfs is no ordinary tackle. He'll be making as much if not more money than the quarterback and the offense has to be tailored for him to be the blind side tackle. Otherwise you are paying him too much money and the right tackle Goedeke is the blind side tackle. That makes no sense.
If you are a football guru then correct me if I'm wrong and tell me it's not a big deal. But in my opinion the Bucs may very well draft a QB, but it won't be Penix no matter how far he drops mainly because he's a lefty.
You never know.
But I will say this based on Coen's offensive style Nix or Rattler might be in play. Guys that can sling but still move the pocket to develop.
That would be perfect if they didn't already move Wirfs to LT and Penix was going to start right now. But that wouldn't be the case for either of those things if they drafted Penix. Do they want to move Wirfs back to RT whenever Penix starts, then when Penix gets injured move him back to LT again? He could do it, but they moved him to LT to leave him there for the rest of his career. They have a guy who could be a HOF at the end of the day. Just because they draft a guy late in the 1st round who may start in two years or sooner if something happens to Mayfield... what do they do tell Wirfs to be on right tackle standby? The dude is the mainstay of the team. He's our left tackle. Don't mess with him. It's a situation best left in the theoretical stage. But again, if some football expert tells me I'm making too big of a deal then fine.He's a lefty.
If only we had a All-Pro RT to protect him!
Oh...wait...
Smh...
But I will say this based on Coen's offensive style Nix or Rattler might be in play.
I hope not. Nix was not impressive when he played in the SEC.
That would be perfect if they didn't already move Wirfs to LT and Penix was going to start right now. But that wouldn't be the case for either of those things if they drafted Penix. Do they want to move Wirfs back to RT whenever Penix starts, then when Penix gets injured move him back to LT again? He could do it, but they moved him to LT to leave him there for the rest of his career. They have a guy who could be a HOF at the end of the day. Just because they draft a guy late in the 1st round who may start in two years or sooner if something happens to Mayfield... what do they do tell Wirfs to be on right tackle standby? The dude is the mainstay of the team. He's our left tackle. Don't mess with him. It's a situation best left in the theoretical stage. But again, if some football expert tells me I'm making too big of a deal then fine.He's a lefty.
If only we had a All-Pro RT to protect him!
Oh...wait...
Smh...
Or, hear me out…
…they’re not drafting Penix.
he should be left out for two main reasons
1 - the Bucs just gave a QB $100 million dollar contract. the last thing you do is destroy the mans confidence by drafting competition. Baker has earned 1 year of that. If he blows chunks in 2024, then yes, Bucs should look to drafting the future in 2025.
2 - the Bucs did not get better this off-season and were at one point 4-7 on the season. By no means should they feel comfortable in their roster construction like they did back in 2021 when they used a 2nd round pick on a back-up QB as opposed to strengthening other areas. Back then, they were stacked in all starting positions and coming off a Superbowl victory so easy to get full of ones self. This team has issues pressuring the QB, lost a starting cornerback, have question marks at ILB next to David, questionable interior offensive line, "eehhh just guys' starting at RB and TE. I dont mind if they use a pick on a QB in the 6th or 7th round to be a camp arm but our 1st through 4th round picks need to be used to bulk up this teams weaknesses.
he should be left out for two main reasons
1 - the Bucs just gave a QB $100 million dollar contract. the last thing you do is destroy the mans confidence by drafting competition. Baker has earned 1 year of that. If he blows chunks in 2024, then yes, Bucs should look to drafting the future in 2025.
2 - the Bucs did not get better this off-season and were at one point 4-7 on the season. By no means should they feel comfortable in their roster construction like they did back in 2021 when they used a 2nd round pick on a back-up QB as opposed to strengthening other areas. Back then, they were stacked in all starting positions and coming off a Superbowl victory so easy to get full of ones self. This team has issues pressuring the QB, lost a starting cornerback, have question marks at ILB next to David, questionable interior offensive line, "eehhh just guys' starting at RB and TE. I dont mind if they use a pick on a QB in the 6th or 7th round to be a camp arm but our 1st through 4th round picks need to be used to bulk up this teams weaknesses.
1 and 2 contradict themselves. Part of the season they were 4-7 was because of Mayfield. We should have lost to Carolina Week 18. We were incredibly lucky to win that game.
Mayfield's contract is a series of one year deals. Make no mistake, they can get out of after one year. They had combine meetings with Penix, McCarthey, Nix and Rattler.
he should be left out for two main reasons
1 - the Bucs just gave a QB $100 million dollar contract. the last thing you do is destroy the mans confidence by drafting competition. Baker has earned 1 year of that. If he blows chunks in 2024, then yes, Bucs should look to drafting the future in 2025.
2 - the Bucs did not get better this off-season and were at one point 4-7 on the season. By no means should they feel comfortable in their roster construction like they did back in 2021 when they used a 2nd round pick on a back-up QB as opposed to strengthening other areas. Back then, they were stacked in all starting positions and coming off a Superbowl victory so easy to get full of ones self. This team has issues pressuring the QB, lost a starting cornerback, have question marks at ILB next to David, questionable interior offensive line, "eehhh just guys' starting at RB and TE. I dont mind if they use a pick on a QB in the 6th or 7th round to be a camp arm but our 1st through 4th round picks need to be used to bulk up this teams weaknesses.
1 and 2 contradict themselves. Part of the season they were 4-7 was because of Mayfield. We should have lost to Carolina Week 18. We were incredibly lucky to win that game.
Mayfield's contract is a series of one year deals. Make no mistake, they can get out of after one year. They had combine meetings with Penix, McCarthey, Nix and Rattler.
if the Bucs thought Baker was a liability they wouldn't have given him a 3 year, $100M deal (or in your eyes a 1 year, $33M deal.) Although not quite buying it's a series of one year deals. Looks to me like they'd have quite a cap hit in 2025 if he was cut next year. Agree that likely more palatable if they move on after year 2.
so let's replace Baker Mayfield with a different name. And let's assume the QB doesn't have a punchable face either. So "Tim Smith" just flat out dominated the last half of the year leading the team to a 5-1 record, and our first non Brady playoff win since Brad Johnson was hoisting the Lombardy 20 years ago. Yes, they are going to bring back Tim Smith to be starter the next year and without competition. Just dont want you getting your hopes up JC but you are at the very least having to stomach Tim Smith as starter next year without looking over his shoulder.
And appreciate they are meeting with individuals that play the QB position. I'd be disappointed if they didn't do their due diligence. Just saying they'd be foolish to pick one high given the other areas that need vast improvement. Let Tim Smith bake and if he sucks this year, i agree, we can look to the future in 2025!
Go Tim Smith!
Tim Smith was a RB. He ran for over 200 yards in the Redskins' 42-10 SB victory over the Broncos. And then he never played again. Legendary.
he should be left out for two main reasons
1 - the Bucs just gave a QB $100 million dollar contract. the last thing you do is destroy the mans confidence by drafting competition. Baker has earned 1 year of that. If he blows chunks in 2024, then yes, Bucs should look to drafting the future in 2025.
2 - the Bucs did not get better this off-season and were at one point 4-7 on the season. By no means should they feel comfortable in their roster construction like they did back in 2021 when they used a 2nd round pick on a back-up QB as opposed to strengthening other areas. Back then, they were stacked in all starting positions and coming off a Superbowl victory so easy to get full of ones self. This team has issues pressuring the QB, lost a starting cornerback, have question marks at ILB next to David, questionable interior offensive line, "eehhh just guys' starting at RB and TE. I dont mind if they use a pick on a QB in the 6th or 7th round to be a camp arm but our 1st through 4th round picks need to be used to bulk up this teams weaknesses.
1 and 2 contradict themselves. Part of the season they were 4-7 was because of Mayfield. We should have lost to Carolina Week 18. We were incredibly lucky to win that game.
Mayfield's contract is a series of one year deals. Make no mistake, they can get out of after one year. They had combine meetings with Penix, McCarthey, Nix and Rattler.
if the Bucs thought Baker was a liability they wouldn't have given him a 3 year, $100M deal (or in your eyes a 1 year, $33M deal.) Although not quite buying it's a series of one year deals. Looks to me like they'd have quite a cap hit in 2025 if he was cut next year. Agree that likely more palatable if they move on after year 2.
so let's replace Baker Mayfield with a different name. And let's assume the QB doesn't have a punchable face either. So "Tim Smith" just flat out dominated the last half of the year leading the team to a 5-1 record, and our first non Brady playoff win since Brad Johnson was hoisting the Lombardy 20 years ago. Yes, they are going to bring back Tim Smith to be starter the next year and without competition. Just dont want you getting your hopes up JC but you are at the very least having to stomach Tim Smith as starter next year without looking over his shoulder.
And appreciate they are meeting with individuals that play the QB position. I'd be disappointed if they didn't do their due diligence. Just saying they'd be foolish to pick one high given the other areas that need vast improvement. Let Tim Smith bake and if he sucks this year, i agree, we can look to the future in 2025!
Go Tim Smith!
Except he didn't flat out dominant. People forget how lucky we were to win the Falcons and Panthers games. Shanked FGs, defensive TD, opponent TDs taken off the board.
Whether you want to admit it or not, Mayfield is cheaper in 2025 off the roster than on the roster, making him expendable.
It's essentially a 2 year deal. 2026 is when Mayfield is expendable. Then you have a $40 mil contract and only $17 mil in dead cap. $17 mil is not chump change, but it can be absorbed if you don't think Mayfield is worth the $40 mil base salary and you have a backup QB on a rookie deal who is ready to step in. Destroying his confidence? Come on. Mayfield has been around the block. You don't have to worry about that. If he excels then he'll be here long term.he should be left out for two main reasons
1 - the Bucs just gave a QB $100 million dollar contract. the last thing you do is destroy the mans confidence by drafting competition. Baker has earned 1 year of that. If he blows chunks in 2024, then yes, Bucs should look to drafting the future in 2025.
2 - the Bucs did not get better this off-season and were at one point 4-7 on the season. By no means should they feel comfortable in their roster construction like they did back in 2021 when they used a 2nd round pick on a back-up QB as opposed to strengthening other areas. Back then, they were stacked in all starting positions and coming off a Superbowl victory so easy to get full of ones self. This team has issues pressuring the QB, lost a starting cornerback, have question marks at ILB next to David, questionable interior offensive line, "eehhh just guys' starting at RB and TE. I dont mind if they use a pick on a QB in the 6th or 7th round to be a camp arm but our 1st through 4th round picks need to be used to bulk up this teams weaknesses.
1 and 2 contradict themselves. Part of the season they were 4-7 was because of Mayfield. We should have lost to Carolina Week 18. We were incredibly lucky to win that game.
Mayfield's contract is a series of one year deals. Make no mistake, they can get out of after one year. They had combine meetings with Penix, McCarthey, Nix and Rattler.
if the Bucs thought Baker was a liability they wouldn't have given him a 3 year, $100M deal (or in your eyes a 1 year, $33M deal.) Although not quite buying it's a series of one year deals. Looks to me like they'd have quite a cap hit in 2025 if he was cut next year. Agree that likely more palatable if they move on after year 2.
so let's replace Baker Mayfield with a different name. And let's assume the QB doesn't have a punchable face either. So "Tim Smith" just flat out dominated the last half of the year leading the team to a 5-1 record, and our first non Brady playoff win since Brad Johnson was hoisting the Lombardy 20 years ago. Yes, they are going to bring back Tim Smith to be starter the next year and without competition. Just dont want you getting your hopes up JC but you are at the very least having to stomach Tim Smith as starter next year without looking over his shoulder.
And appreciate they are meeting with individuals that play the QB position. I'd be disappointed if they didn't do their due diligence. Just saying they'd be foolish to pick one high given the other areas that need vast improvement. Let Tim Smith bake and if he sucks this year, i agree, we can look to the future in 2025!
Go Tim Smith!
Except he didn't flat out dominant. People forget how lucky we were to win the Falcons and Panthers games. Shanked FGs, defensive TD, opponent TDs taken off the board.
Whether you want to admit it or not, Mayfield is cheaper in 2025 off the roster than on the roster, making him expendable.
Even if the QB has to sit for two years, this year is the year when a couple good QBs might slip down, guys who could slip to the 3rd round but have the potential to be developed over a couple years. Next year might not have the QB depth and that's a huge consideration. If they can spend a 3rd this year as opposed to a first or 2nd next year for the same caliber QB then it's definitely worth it. Injuries happen. Stuff happens. You need a good backup, and this is Trask's last year with the team.
That's why they will draft a QB this year on Day 2 IMO.
So everyone agrees we get a new left handed QB and we draft a LT to be RT and move or RT back to G and leave Wirfs at LT …. With a left handed QB who will save the Bucs $ in 2025
he should be left out for two main reasons
1 - the Bucs just gave a QB $100 million dollar contract. the last thing you do is destroy the mans confidence by drafting competition. Baker has earned 1 year of that. If he blows chunks in 2024, then yes, Bucs should look to drafting the future in 2025.
2 - the Bucs did not get better this off-season and were at one point 4-7 on the season. By no means should they feel comfortable in their roster construction like they did back in 2021 when they used a 2nd round pick on a back-up QB as opposed to strengthening other areas. Back then, they were stacked in all starting positions and coming off a Superbowl victory so easy to get full of ones self. This team has issues pressuring the QB, lost a starting cornerback, have question marks at ILB next to David, questionable interior offensive line, "eehhh just guys' starting at RB and TE. I dont mind if they use a pick on a QB in the 6th or 7th round to be a camp arm but our 1st through 4th round picks need to be used to bulk up this teams weaknesses.
1 and 2 contradict themselves. Part of the season they were 4-7 was because of Mayfield. We should have lost to Carolina Week 18. We were incredibly lucky to win that game.
Mayfield's contract is a series of one year deals. Make no mistake, they can get out of after one year. They had combine meetings with Penix, McCarthey, Nix and Rattler.
if the Bucs thought Baker was a liability they wouldn't have given him a 3 year, $100M deal (or in your eyes a 1 year, $33M deal.) Although not quite buying it's a series of one year deals. Looks to me like they'd have quite a cap hit in 2025 if he was cut next year. Agree that likely more palatable if they move on after year 2.
so let's replace Baker Mayfield with a different name. And let's assume the QB doesn't have a punchable face either. So "Tim Smith" just flat out dominated the last half of the year leading the team to a 5-1 record, and our first non Brady playoff win since Brad Johnson was hoisting the Lombardy 20 years ago. Yes, they are going to bring back Tim Smith to be starter the next year and without competition. Just dont want you getting your hopes up JC but you are at the very least having to stomach Tim Smith as starter next year without looking over his shoulder.
And appreciate they are meeting with individuals that play the QB position. I'd be disappointed if they didn't do their due diligence. Just saying they'd be foolish to pick one high given the other areas that need vast improvement. Let Tim Smith bake and if he sucks this year, i agree, we can look to the future in 2025!
Go Tim Smith!
Except he didn't flat out dominant. People forget how lucky we were to win the Falcons and Panthers games. Shanked FGs, defensive TD, opponent TDs taken off the board.
Whether you want to admit it or not, Mayfield is cheaper in 2025 off the roster than on the roster, making him expendable.
if he stinks up the join, i am on board with you that its likely we look at a rookie QB
but if he performs similar to last year, which was good, but NOT great; then sorry pal, he's the QB in 2025 too.
It's essentially a 2 year deal. 2026 is when Mayfield is expendable. Then you have a $40 mil contract and only $17 mil in dead cap. $17 mil is not chump change, but it can be absorbed if you don't think Mayfield is worth the $40 mil base salary and you have a backup QB on a rookie deal who is ready to step in. Destroying his confidence? Come on. Mayfield has been around the block. You don't have to worry about that. If he excels then he'll be here long term.he should be left out for two main reasons
1 - the Bucs just gave a QB $100 million dollar contract. the last thing you do is destroy the mans confidence by drafting competition. Baker has earned 1 year of that. If he blows chunks in 2024, then yes, Bucs should look to drafting the future in 2025.
2 - the Bucs did not get better this off-season and were at one point 4-7 on the season. By no means should they feel comfortable in their roster construction like they did back in 2021 when they used a 2nd round pick on a back-up QB as opposed to strengthening other areas. Back then, they were stacked in all starting positions and coming off a Superbowl victory so easy to get full of ones self. This team has issues pressuring the QB, lost a starting cornerback, have question marks at ILB next to David, questionable interior offensive line, "eehhh just guys' starting at RB and TE. I dont mind if they use a pick on a QB in the 6th or 7th round to be a camp arm but our 1st through 4th round picks need to be used to bulk up this teams weaknesses.
1 and 2 contradict themselves. Part of the season they were 4-7 was because of Mayfield. We should have lost to Carolina Week 18. We were incredibly lucky to win that game.
Mayfield's contract is a series of one year deals. Make no mistake, they can get out of after one year. They had combine meetings with Penix, McCarthey, Nix and Rattler.
if the Bucs thought Baker was a liability they wouldn't have given him a 3 year, $100M deal (or in your eyes a 1 year, $33M deal.) Although not quite buying it's a series of one year deals. Looks to me like they'd have quite a cap hit in 2025 if he was cut next year. Agree that likely more palatable if they move on after year 2.
so let's replace Baker Mayfield with a different name. And let's assume the QB doesn't have a punchable face either. So "Tim Smith" just flat out dominated the last half of the year leading the team to a 5-1 record, and our first non Brady playoff win since Brad Johnson was hoisting the Lombardy 20 years ago. Yes, they are going to bring back Tim Smith to be starter the next year and without competition. Just dont want you getting your hopes up JC but you are at the very least having to stomach Tim Smith as starter next year without looking over his shoulder.
And appreciate they are meeting with individuals that play the QB position. I'd be disappointed if they didn't do their due diligence. Just saying they'd be foolish to pick one high given the other areas that need vast improvement. Let Tim Smith bake and if he sucks this year, i agree, we can look to the future in 2025!
Go Tim Smith!
Except he didn't flat out dominant. People forget how lucky we were to win the Falcons and Panthers games. Shanked FGs, defensive TD, opponent TDs taken off the board.
Whether you want to admit it or not, Mayfield is cheaper in 2025 off the roster than on the roster, making him expendable.
Even if the QB has to sit for two years, this year is the year when a couple good QBs might slip down, guys who could slip to the 3rd round but have the potential to be developed over a couple years. Next year might not have the QB depth and that's a huge consideration. If they can spend a 3rd this year as opposed to a first or 2nd next year for the same caliber QB then it's definitely worth it. Injuries happen. Stuff happens. You need a good backup, and this is Trask's last year with the team.
That's why they will draft a QB this year on Day 2 IMO.
i dont know though. the Trask pick, as much of a waste as it was, why wouldn't the Bucs re-sign him if Baker has a repeat of 2023 performance, if not better?
Trask as #2 and dont waste draft capital on a back-up QB.
drafting QBs to be back-up is something the Packers have done well with Rodgers and Love but they were also perennial playoff teams and had that luxury
one might say we are a perennial playoff team now but that included 3 years of having the GOAT at QB and the last 2 years we were a .500 squad.
We have too many holes to be drafting a back-up QB
