Also, in regards to Mike's contract, go check out @Bucs_Nation and @LeoHowell8 on Twitter. They are trying to figure out which years are guaranteed (officially) and which years aren't. If 2014 is guaranteed, there's no chance he goes anywhere...unless...they can trade him...I think Lovie will try his best to get through to him. I'd honestly be surprised if he can't. We'll see...
His contract included $8.4M guaranteed and he got that in 2013. His base salary from 2013 and 2014 are also guaranteed.....so his $1.2M base salary in 2014 is still guaranteed....but that is all. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/mike-williams/
Damn... SR got this place all riled up for a guy tweeting on IR.Well played sir.
He's been tweeting stupid sh!t for several years. He blocked me on twitter in 2011 for telling him he needs to grow up and realize the opportunity he is pissing away. So this isn't something new that just happened since he got paid and went on IR.
Also, in regards to Mike's contract, go check out @Bucs_Nation and @LeoHowell8 on Twitter. They are trying to figure out which years are guaranteed (officially) and which years aren't. If 2014 is guaranteed, there's no chance he goes anywhere...unless...they can trade him...I think Lovie will try his best to get through to him. I'd honestly be surprised if he can't. We'll see...
His contract included $8.4M guaranteed and he got that in 2013. His base salary from 2013 and 2014 are also guaranteed.....so his $1.2M base salary in 2014 is still guaranteed....but that is all. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/mike-williams/
@Bucs_Nation:@corryjoel Joel, do you know if Mike Williams '14 and '15 salaries are skill/cap/injury guaranteed? Some suggestions he could be released@corryjoel:@Bucs_Nation Mike Williams has fully GTD (w/an offset) '14/'15 base salaries of $1.2M/$5.2M. There would be $6.4M in dead $$ if he's cut.@Bucs_Nation:@corryjoel Thanks! That makes releasing him even more unlikely.EDIT:@corryjoel:@Bucs_Nation No problem. Mike Williams' 2015 guarantee would accelerate to the 2014 cap. His dead $$ is $4.6M more than his $1.8M cap #.@corryjoel:@LeoHowell8 @Bucs_Nation Mike Williams' 2013-2015 bases ($13.6M) were fully GTD (w/offsets) at signing. He also had a $1M 7/27 roster bonus.
Also, in regards to Mike's contract, go check out @Bucs_Nation and @LeoHowell8 on Twitter. They are trying to figure out which years are guaranteed (officially) and which years aren't. If 2014 is guaranteed, there's no chance he goes anywhere...unless...they can trade him...I think Lovie will try his best to get through to him. I'd honestly be surprised if he can't. We'll see...
His contract included $8.4M guaranteed and he got that in 2013. His base salary from 2013 and 2014 are also guaranteed.....so his $1.2M base salary in 2014 is still guaranteed....but that is all. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/mike-williams/
Based on that link, his cap hit will be 1.8 mill this year but goes up to 6.8 the following season. I'd say this year is critical for both he and the Bucs.
Also, in regards to Mike's contract, go check out @Bucs_Nation and @LeoHowell8 on Twitter. They are trying to figure out which years are guaranteed (officially) and which years aren't. If 2014 is guaranteed, there's no chance he goes anywhere...unless...they can trade him...I think Lovie will try his best to get through to him. I'd honestly be surprised if he can't. We'll see...
His contract included $8.4M guaranteed and he got that in 2013. His base salary from 2013 and 2014 are also guaranteed.....so his $1.2M base salary in 2014 is still guaranteed....but that is all. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/mike-williams/
@Bucs_Nation:@corryjoel Joel, do you know if Mike Williams '14 and '15 salaries are skill/cap/injury guaranteed? Some suggestions he could be released@corryjoel:@Bucs_Nation Mike Williams has fully GTD (w/an offset) '14/'15 base salaries of $1.2M/$5.2M. There would be $6.4M in dead $$ if he's cut.@Bucs_Nation:@corryjoel Thanks! That makes releasing him even more unlikely.EDIT:@corryjoel:@Bucs_Nation No problem. Mike Williams' 2015 guarantee would accelerate to the 2014 cap. His dead $$ is $4.6M more than his $1.8M cap #.@corryjoel:@LeoHowell8 @Bucs_Nation Mike Williams' 2013-2015 bases ($13.6M) were fully GTD (w/offsets) at signing. He also had a $1M 7/27 roster bonus.
I don't know who those people on twitter are, but sportrac is a reputable site. I'm gonna believe them over some guys on twitter.
Also, in regards to Mike's contract, go check out @Bucs_Nation and @LeoHowell8 on Twitter. They are trying to figure out which years are guaranteed (officially) and which years aren't. If 2014 is guaranteed, there's no chance he goes anywhere...unless...they can trade him...I think Lovie will try his best to get through to him. I'd honestly be surprised if he can't. We'll see...
His contract included $8.4M guaranteed and he got that in 2013. His base salary from 2013 and 2014 are also guaranteed.....so his $1.2M base salary in 2014 is still guaranteed....but that is all. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/mike-williams/
Based on that link, his cap hit will be 1.8 mill this year but goes up to 6.8 the following season. I'd say this year is critical for both he and the Bucs.
parting gift from Dom
the team really dropped the ball on this one. why put this out there? if you're really trying to release him and don't want him keep you mouth shut and get a draft pick for him.. someone would gave up at least a third for him. god this team sometimes just doesn't get it
Most likely they want to send a message to him that this is his last year in Tampa unless he gets his **CENSORED** together.
right i understand but if they really feel like he's not part of our future then why throw all this negative stuff out there? keep it on house and talk to his ass like a man, if talking doesn't work then deal him for a pick its all I'm saying
Who says he came from the current Buc regime? Most likely it came from former Buc employees/staff.
the OP says that the team was close to releasing him in 2014 that tells me that it came from the staff who will be there in 2014
Also, in regards to Mike's contract, go check out @Bucs_Nation and @LeoHowell8 on Twitter. They are trying to figure out which years are guaranteed (officially) and which years aren't. If 2014 is guaranteed, there's no chance he goes anywhere...unless...they can trade him...I think Lovie will try his best to get through to him. I'd honestly be surprised if he can't. We'll see...
His contract included $8.4M guaranteed and he got that in 2013. His base salary from 2013 and 2014 are also guaranteed.....so his $1.2M base salary in 2014 is still guaranteed....but that is all. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/mike-williams/
@Bucs_Nation:@corryjoel Joel, do you know if Mike Williams '14 and '15 salaries are skill/cap/injury guaranteed? Some suggestions he could be released@corryjoel:@Bucs_Nation Mike Williams has fully GTD (w/an offset) '14/'15 base salaries of $1.2M/$5.2M. There would be $6.4M in dead $$ if he's cut.@Bucs_Nation:@corryjoel Thanks! That makes releasing him even more unlikely.EDIT:@corryjoel:@Bucs_Nation No problem. Mike Williams' 2015 guarantee would accelerate to the 2014 cap. His dead $$ is $4.6M more than his $1.8M cap #.@corryjoel:@LeoHowell8 @Bucs_Nation Mike Williams' 2013-2015 bases ($13.6M) were fully GTD (w/offsets) at signing. He also had a $1M 7/27 roster bonus.
I don't know who those people on twitter are, but sportrac is a reputable site. I'm gonna believe them over some guys on twitter.
He's (Joel Corry) more than reputable......check his bio:Former sports agent, NFL contracts and salary cap expert, and writer. Catch my NFL contracts and salary cap articles on @FootballPost and @CBSSports.nationalfootballpost.com/Joel-Corry.htmland those guys sought him out and asked him...
Well maybe he is right....but sportrac is a site that's sole purpose for existing is to accurately display contract details for athletes.
the OP says that the team was close to releasing him in 2014 that tells me that it came from the staff who will be there in 2014
Scott specifically says the previous regime.
Damn... SR got this place all riled up for a guy tweeting on IR.Well played sir.
He's been tweeting stupid sh!t for several years. He blocked me on twitter in 2011 for telling him he needs to grow up and realize the opportunity he is pissing away. So this isn't something new that just happened since he got paid and went on IR.
Obviously hasn't pissed away much. Dude is a multi millionaire. He'll grow up eventually. We all do.Much ado about nothing IMO.
the team really dropped the ball on this one. why put this out there? if you're really trying to release him and don't want him keep you mouth shut and get a draft pick for him.. someone would gave up at least a third for him. god this team sometimes just doesn't get it
Most likely they want to send a message to him that this is his last year in Tampa unless he gets his **CENSORED** together.
right i understand but if they really feel like he's not part of our future then why throw all this negative stuff out there? keep it on house and talk to his ass like a man, if talking doesn't work then deal him for a pick its all I'm saying
Who says he came from the current Buc regime? Most likely it came from former Buc employees/staff.
the OP says that the team was close to releasing him in 2014 that tells me that it came from the staff who will be there in 2014
I think the whole article is written in past tense, right? About what Dom and Schiano would've done or were considering?
Damn... SR got this place all riled up for a guy tweeting on IR.Well played sir.
He's been tweeting stupid sh!t for several years. He blocked me on twitter in 2011 for telling him he needs to grow up and realize the opportunity he is pissing away. So this isn't something new that just happened since he got paid and went on IR.
Obviously hasn't pissed away much. Dude is a multi millionaire. He'll grow up eventually. We all do.Much ado about nothing IMO.
much ado about nothing in terms of his life, but a big deal for the Bucs given his role and the contract structure
FWIW: http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Mike%20Williams&Position=WR&Team=Buccaneers Year BaseSalary ProratedBonus RosterBonus WorkoutBonus OtherBonus CapNumber DeadMoney CapSavings2010 $320,000 $134,562 $0 $0 $0 $454,562 $538,248 ($83,686)2011 $450,000 $134,562 $0 $0 $0 $584,562 $403,686 $180,8762012 $540,000 $134,562 $0 $0 $0 $674,562 $269,124 $405,4382013 $7,200,000 $134,562 $1,000,000 $0 $0 $8,334,562 $9,534,562 ($1,200,000)2014 $1,200,000 $0 $0 $600,000 $0 $1,800,000 $1,200,000 $600,0002015 $5,200,000 $0 $1,000,000 $600,000 $0 $6,800,000 $0 $6,800,0002016 $5,600,000 $0 $1,000,000 $600,000 $0 $7,200,000 $0 $7,200,0002017 $5,900,000 $0 $1,000,000 $600,000 $0 $7,500,000 $0 $7,500,0002018 $4,150,000 $0 $4,000,000 $600,000 $0 $8,750,000 $0 $8,750,000
All we can do is HOPE that Lovie can get to Mike. That is, if there is an actual problem at all.For all we know, he couldn't stand Schiano, and his ways, so it was his way of retaliating. I'm not saying that would be the right way to handle it, but it is what it is.He may come out and have a great year and be the perfect player/teammate. Lovie has his ways. He's proven this throughout his coaching tenure and if he can't then seeya-later-bye, Mike.