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Russell Romo or Tony Wilson?

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:02 am
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:17 am
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

What does Lance Briggs have to do with Barr? Briggs wasn't a pass rusher. We already have our Lance Briggs.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:20 am
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

What does Lance Briggs have to do with Barr? Briggs wasn't a pass rusher. We already have our Lance Briggs.

He's just saying that his size shouldn't matter.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:23 am
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

What does Lance Briggs have to do with Barr? Briggs wasn't a pass rusher. We already have our Lance Briggs.

No - we have our weak side LB in David.  We need a strong side LB which is what Barr could play as.  I would much rather take him at #7 and add talent to this team then reach for a lower rated pass rusher at #7.  We could also slide Barr down to DE on passing downs simply to rush.The Briggs comparison was to show that the kid could play OLB.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:23 am
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

What does Lance Briggs have to do with Barr? Briggs wasn't a pass rusher. We already have our Lance Briggs.

No - we have our weak side LB in David.  We need a strong side LB which is what Barr could play as.  I would much rather take him at #7 and add talent to this team then reach for a lower rated pass rusher at #7.  We could also slide Barr down to DE on passing downs simply to rush.The Briggs comparison was to show that the kid could play OLB.

I'm not against drafting a player high to play a hybrid SLB/DE role, but he absolutely has to be a great pass rusher. Any stiff can play SLB while not rushing the passer in this defense.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:28 am
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The thing I like most about Barr as a SLB is that on base downs he can also match up with the TE.  Take the Saints for example - they love to exploit Graham in matchups forcing a team to either go Nickel to cover behind him or sacrifice coverage to stop the run.  With Barr and how fast he is, we can stay in base D and cover the run if Graham has his hand in the dirt OR if Graham is flexed out wide, Barr can still cover and it not be a mismatch.  The kid can fly off the edge and contribute in coverage.  Sure any stiff can play SLB in this defense, but Barr is no stiff and allows for so much more flexibility in the defense as well.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:49 am
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

What does Lance Briggs have to do with Barr? Briggs wasn't a pass rusher. We already have our Lance Briggs.

No - we have our weak side LB in David.  We need a strong side LB which is what Barr could play as.  I would much rather take him at #7 and add talent to this team then reach for a lower rated pass rusher at #7.  We could also slide Barr down to DE on passing downs simply to rush.The Briggs comparison was to show that the kid could play OLB.

SLB plays what 30% of snaps?  Any GM that spends a #7 on that should be fired on the spot.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:51 am
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I'm leary about pointing to Miller as an example for the viability of a pash rushing 4-3 linebacker.  He seems like something of a remarkable exception rather than the rule.  As I've said elsewhere, if they think they can make him or Mack work as a hybrid lb/de, I'll trust the team and hope for the best.  I'm just not sure it's a slam dunk case of something that will work out.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:52 am
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

What does Lance Briggs have to do with Barr? Briggs wasn't a pass rusher. We already have our Lance Briggs.

No - we have our weak side LB in David.  We need a strong side LB which is what Barr could play as.  I would much rather take him at #7 and add talent to this team then reach for a lower rated pass rusher at #7.  We could also slide Barr down to DE on passing downs simply to rush.The Briggs comparison was to show that the kid could play OLB.

SLB plays what 30% of snaps?  Any GM that spends a #7 on that should be fired on the spot.

Would you spend the #7 pick on Clay Matthews?  Because that is probably the best comparison for Barr in the pros right now....

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:55 am
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Mack or Barr will be there at 7 .... With Lovie on board it'll be a run on defensive players which is my concern ...

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:55 am
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

What does Lance Briggs have to do with Barr? Briggs wasn't a pass rusher. We already have our Lance Briggs.

No - we have our weak side LB in David.  We need a strong side LB which is what Barr could play as.  I would much rather take him at #7 and add talent to this team then reach for a lower rated pass rusher at #7.  We could also slide Barr down to DE on passing downs simply to rush.The Briggs comparison was to show that the kid could play OLB.

SLB plays what 30% of snaps?  Any GM that spends a #7 on that should be fired on the spot.

Would you spend the #7 pick on Clay Matthews?  Because that is probably the best comparison for Barr in the pros right now....

If the Bucs ran a 3-4? Sure.In the scheme Lovie is going to run? No. The Bucs aren't going to draft an OLB with the 7th pick. Won't happen.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 11:59 am
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The thing I like most about Barr as a SLB is that on base downs he can also match up with the TE.  Take the Saints for example - they love to exploit Graham in matchups forcing a team to either go Nickel to cover behind him or sacrifice coverage to stop the run.  With Barr and how fast he is, we can stay in base D and cover the run if Graham has his hand in the dirt OR if Graham is flexed out wide, Barr can still cover and it not be a mismatch.  The kid can fly off the edge and contribute in coverage.  Sure any stiff can play SLB in this defense, but Barr is no stiff and allows for so much more flexibility in the defense as well.

I seriously, seriously doubt Barr can hang with Graham more than 10 yards down the field. We've got two 210 lb safeties that can't hang with him. Is Barr such an exceptional athlete he can cover better than Barron and Goldson while carrying an extra 40-50 lbs? Not likely. I'm not against using the #7 pick on a player similar to Barr, but if you do, it needs to be because he's a dynamite pass rusher (not just a blitzer).

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 12:02 pm
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Everyone who says Barr "isn't a fit" in this defense haven't watched enough of him play.  The dude is a fit in the 4-3, but not as a DE but OLB.  He could easily slide into our strong side OLB spot.  He was recruited and played at UCLA as a RB after all before sliding to defense and ran a 4.47 40 this summer.  If Lance Briggs who was 6-1 241 running a 4.75 40 can be successful in Lovie's defense I have no doubt that Anthony Barr who is 6-4 235 running 3 tenths faster on the 40 can be successful as well...

What does Lance Briggs have to do with Barr? Briggs wasn't a pass rusher. We already have our Lance Briggs.

No - we have our weak side LB in David.  We need a strong side LB which is what Barr could play as.  I would much rather take him at #7 and add talent to this team then reach for a lower rated pass rusher at #7.  We could also slide Barr down to DE on passing downs simply to rush.The Briggs comparison was to show that the kid could play OLB.

SLB plays what 30% of snaps?  Any GM that spends a #7 on that should be fired on the spot.

Would you spend the #7 pick on Clay Matthews?  Because that is probably the best comparison for Barr in the pros right now....

If the Bucs ran a 3-4? Sure.In the scheme Lovie is going to run? No. The Bucs aren't going to draft an OLB with the 7th pick. Won't happen.

We shall see.  Would rather a player of Barr's caliber who can still rush on passing downs then reaching for a less talented prospect just for a perceived "fit".  But that's just me.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 12:02 pm
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We shall see.  Would rather a player of Barr's caliber who can still rush on passing downs then reaching for a less talented prospect just for a perceived "fit".  But that's just me.

In fairness, my argument at least is that there's a clump of similarly talented players who should be there around where the Bucs are picking.  Barr is certainly one of them, but I'm not sure he's really head and shoulders over the other guys who might realistically be there.

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2014 12:11 pm
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