So all this quibbling is over how much Baker Mayfield is worth? Let me redirect the conversation, so as not to provoke some really fine members and ...

Baker is a system quarterback if the system you want to run is McVay’s…which many teams in the NFL certainly find attractive right now. That’s an in...

I wasn’t trying make any claim about Lamar v Baker. I would say Lamar falls into the elite category. …but he still wasn’t available to the Bucs. Tha...

Better context, for me anyway… …but admittedly, still subjective.

Baker drove the field and scored a go ahead TD - but left something like 47 seconds on the clock…CJ Stroud did his thing, and our defense couldn’t sto...

You haven’t even done that well!

It has ever been thus. Except, it’s derivative and does not buttress your point. Even then, you only do that by quoting someone else.

Baker Mayfield is younger, is as good as Dak (age 30) and far superior to Kirk Cousins (35). For less money, and equal/better winning percentage, in...

I have weighed & measured your reply and find it lacking. it is consistent with your viewpoint that Baker sucks, but goes too far in justifying...

well there are between 2 and 7 data sets missing. But I’m glad you can appreciate the total body of work. and to be quiet serious: you’re saying you...

Nice & concise, with context, and humor to drive home the point. This IS fun.

I think the Dilfer comparison to Kirk Cousins is spot on.

Well, the kid is only 28…2 seasons younger than Dak, and 7 younger than Kirk. And we’re comparing the first guy to get Cleveland to a playoff game i...

Depends on what you mean by “elite” - only QB’s that demonstrate they can make those around them, better, while winning games they should, and keeping...