FAB 3. Licht Has Plenty Of Options In 2018 NFL Draft
The reason why free agency occurs before the NFL Draft is so that teams can sign veteran players to fill holes and then a team’s remaining holes can be filled with rookies. Thanks to what likes like a reasonably good free agency haul by Tampa Bay general manager Jason Licht the team has fewer needs going into the 2018 NFL Draft as they had prior to the start of free agency on March 14.
The Bucs had just two defensive tackles on the roster before free agency in Pro Bowler Gerald McCoy and unproven second-year player Stevie Tu’ikolovatu. After the addition of free agents Beau Allen, who is slated to start at nose tackle, and Mitch Unrein, the Bucs now have five players capable of playing defensive tackle, including 290-pound defensive end Will Gholston, who has moved inside in nickel pass rush situations before.
Free agent Vinny Curry and the trade for Jason Pierre-Paul added two new defensive ends to a roster that already had Gholston, Noah Spence and Will Clarke, who was recently re-signed. Keep in mind that the versatile Unrein can also play strongside defensive end, so that’s essentially six proven D-ends on the current roster.
The Bucs added center Ryan Jensen, which moves Ali Marpet back to his original guard position, and he may play on the left side if the team plans on keeping J.R. Sweezy, which it is still contemplating. If he stays, the oft-injured Sweezy needs some competition, as he didn’t have an overly successful return to the field last year after missing the 2016 campaign with a back injury. But Marpet is a definite upgrade at left guard over Evan Smith and Kevin Pamphile, who signed a one-year deal with Tennessee.
Tampa Bay also solidified its quarterback position by re-signing Ryan Fitzpatrick before free agency, and already has Ryan Griffin on the roster as the No. 3 QB.
So what are the Bucs’ obvious needs? The top need is running back as Tampa Bay has moved on from Doug Martin and Charles Sims and only has two proven rushers on the team in Peyton Barber, last year’s leading rusher, and Jacquizz Rodgers.
The second need lies in the secondary where the Bucs could use another starting cornerback opposite Brent Grimes, who was re-signed to a one-year deal worth $7 million with $3 million more in incentives. While Tampa Bay plans on giving former first-round pick Vernon Hargreaves III one more shot at outside cornerback, the guess here is that he goes back to the slot as a nickel cornerback, which is where he played better last year.
Another pressing need in the defensive backfield is at strong safety where Chris Conte is the current starter and is in the final year of his contract. The Bucs want a young stud to pair with free safety Justin Evans to improve both the run defense and pass defense.
Because of free agency, Tampa Bay has lesser needs at guard, defensive end and defensive tackle, but Licht can’t afford to not continue to bolster the trenches. If the right quarterback is there on Day 3 don’t be surprised to see the Bucs grab one as the 35-year old Fitzpatrick is on a one-year deal, and Griffin is in the last year of his deal and has yet to play a down in a regular season NFL game.
So let’s take a look at what might happen at No. 7 for the Buccaneers in the first round. Don’t think for a second that Licht wouldn’t scoop up North Carolina State defensive end Bradley Chubb in a heartbeat if he somehow fell to the Bucs at No. 7. Can you imagine having Pierre-Paul, Curry, Unrein, Gholston, Spence and Chubb at the defensive end position? Tampa Bay would go from having one of the most embarrassing defensive lines a year ago to an embarrassment of riches this year.
If Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson slid to No. 7 he’s inserted at left guard for the next decade and Marpet supplants Sweezy at right guard. The Bucs suddenly have one of the most physical interior offensive lines in the league if that happens.
If Penn State running back Saquon Barkley managed to slide to Tampa Bay he’s the pick and becomes the team’s starting running back. If he’s not there, look for the Bucs to draft a starting-caliber running back in the second or third round.
If Chubb, Nelson or Barkley are gone at No. 7, the Bucs could trade back in the first round with hopes of acquiring a third-round pick to make up for the one Licht shipped to the New York Giants for Pierre-Paul. That’s the kind of thing Licht values when he has traded away picks in the past. Licht also likes to use middle round picks to move up in the draft, as he did in 2015 for Marpet in the second round, for kicker Roberto Aguayo in the second round in 2016, and for linebacker Kendell Beckwith in the third round last year.
Which players the Bucs might target later in the first round would depend on how far Tampa Bay slides back due to trading out of the seventh spot in the first round. But if the Bucs were forced to stick and pick at No. 7, Florida State’s Derwin James becomes the team’s starting strong safety if he’s selected. Ohio State’s Denzel Ward is the top-ranked cornerback could also be in play at No. 7.
And don’t rule out Washington defensive tackle even though the Bucs signed Allen and Unrein. Tampa Bay is high on the freakish 6-foot-4, 347-pound Vea, and views him as a Top 10 pick. Remember that McCoy is now 30 and has seen his sack totals drop in each of the past three years.
The Bucs will look at drafting another defensive tackle that could be the heir apparent, and Vea can play either the nose tackle spot or the three-technique position, as he did for the Huskies, whose multiple defenses consisted of both 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. Both Licht and defensive coordinator Mike Smith like big defensive tackles, and Smith’s defense had great success in Jacksonville with two massive Pro Bowl defensive tackles in John Henderson and Marcus Stroud.
Licht has said he won’t be drafting for need at No. 7 and will take the best player available on the board when it’s Tampa Bay’s turn to select. A lot of NFL general managers say they’ll draft best player available, but often revert back to drafting for need. Licht can actually follow through on drafting the best player available in April – or trading back to acquire more picks – because of a successful free agency haul in March.
Tampa Bay hasn’t has this much flexibility heading into the draft in quite some time, and the possibilities for the Bucs’ first-round pick appear endless as a result.
Well said. Well written. We may not go to the big game, but I believe a little more than I did last season.
Let me just say, I believe CB is a higher priority than S. With that being said I would draft a pure CB Denzil Ward before James or Kirkpatrick. I would also cut underachieving sackless & might I say worthless Gholston.
Not disagreeing that he needs to step up, but there’s no salary cap relief by cutting Gholston, as his $6.5M is already guaranteed for 2018. Only thing you’re doing is just weakening your depth. While he’s not a QB hunter, he is solid in setting the edge and defending the run.
I’m right there with you, despite what will no doubt be a slew of downvotes. Allow this to be me going on record saying Ward will be a better NFL player than James. It’s my personal belief taking James at 7 would be a HUGE error, but I’d be very happy with getting Ward there. I’m not as high on Golston as others, either, but for now he’ll have to do due to the guaranteed money.
We’re on the hook this year either way, so we may as well keep him for depth and versatility. We can still use him as a rotational DE/DT and cut him with no loss next year after we have time to find a worthy replacement.
Licht’s having a great off-season. Good essay on James. I’m ok with either James or Fitzpatrick. Skip the politics. I don’t come here for that. I come here to get away from the incessant political divisions currently plaguing our country. My partisanship is to the Buccaneers.
Nice work, Scott! I do like James, but the whole “ferocious hitter” thing in today’s NFL is becoming a liability. I do like his leadership and other abilities, where I would put him above Vea. I really think though, that the QBs are going to go pretty quickly before the Bucs get their choice of Chubb, Nelson or Barkley… (most likely Barkley?). So, would you take Barkley or James at that point? Tough choice. I still hope that the scenario leads to a sliding QB at #7 and the Bucs end up trading back for more picks. On your other note, I agree that, even though I’m on the other side of the fence that you, the Glazers are not wrong to privately fundraise for the candidate of their choice. I’d look forward to a “Trevor” breakdown of James as well, in the coming weeks. Intriguing player.
As a FSU fan/alum, NO to Derwin James at 7. He’s a clear notch below the top 3 non QB’s, he didn’t have a good year last year and FSU’s defense was largely hot garbage as the barely held on to a 36 year bowl streak. Trade down to the teens and take him? Fine.
Want to compare Derwin James to Sean Taylor? Sure, Sean Taylor had 10 Interceptions his Junior year at Miami and 14 interceptions, 3 TD’s (included in that 2 Int’s in the CFB championship game) in his two year playing career there. Miami was a very good team in 2002-2003, it lost 3 games Taylor played in those two years and lost that double overtime game to OSU in the championship game. Sean Taylor was taken 5th overall.
Derwin James has 3 INT’s (1 against Syracuse, 1 against Delaware State, 1 against Ole Miss) 5.5 sacks in his career, his only double digit tackle games in 2017 came against the likes of BC and ULM. FSU went 7-6 in James Jr year, FSU was 10-3 his freshman year, and 10-3 the year he largely missed due to his knee injury, so tell me how big an impact he was on the overall record. His big plays are lacking, his film was not great this year and taking him would be a pure projection pick based on his Freshman film (a la Aguayo). The scary part is Licht likes FSU players who have great freshman year’s (Winston, Aguayo), so it wouldn’t surprise me if Licht did make that pick at 7, he just shouldn’t.
I guess you forgot James was coming off of a season ending knee injury the year before. You can’t blame him for FSU’s defense being so poor. That is a 100% on former DC Charles Kelly.
So you’re telling me that James coming off a major knee injury and being less explosive last year gives me more reason to support why he should be a top 10 pick at safety? Do tell!
And believe me, Charles Kelly was an atrocious DC whom I actively wanted replaced halfway through his first sesaon ruining the defense. That said, it wasn’t as though Derwin James was making big plays in between the blown coverages that plagued the defense. He just wasn’t.
If you want to gamble 7 overall on a player that hasn’t shown that he’s game changer in college, be my guest. Sean Taylor was a world more explosive and impactful to the games he played in, never missed a year of college due to a torn meniscus and was taken 2 spots higher than Licht would draft James. If you think that’s value, I guess that’s your opinion.
Less explosive Devasher? Did you miss the combine I assume? James did not lose a step. For those who don’t watch FSU football, which I’m guessing you don’t. The defensive scheme and coaching was awful at FSU last year, ask any Noles fan. James was never asked to blitz like his first year and still came out the number one rated cover safety in college football last year. So no, he hasn’t lost anything. No one is comparing his game to Taylor. Sean Taylor is one of the greatest ever. But you can book it that James will be a perennial pro bowler every year. And that is a guy you don’t pass up on if those other top three are gone.
Sorry, didn’t see you’re an FSU fan on there. It was clear to most FSU fans that the coaching had everything to do with blown coverage’s last year. And most players, not saying James, didn’t even bust their asses as coach Fisher had two feet out the door by week 3 of last year. Just my opinion, but James wold be an easy choice if the big three of Chubb, Barkley, and Nelson are gone. We need a strong safety badly and our secondary is now our weakest link on this team.
So far Bucsfan1983 said “I guess you forgot James was coming off a season ending injury the year before” in reply to my post stating “and 10-3 the year he largely missed due to his knee injury, so tell me how big an impact he was on the overall record.”
cgmaster writes “For those who don’t watch FSU football, which I’m guessing you don’t.” in reply to the original post where I open with “As a FSU fan/alum”
If y’all can’t be bothered to actually read what I’m typing what is the point of arguing with you?
Yes, I’ve watched Derwin James play, a lot. And while he was explosive as a freshman, he wasn’t great this past year, certainly not top 7th overall pick safety great. The guy blew up the combine, and I hope maybe that means he’s well on his way to recovering but the fact is, he had 1 sack, 2 INT’s and 2 games where he had 10+ tackles.
I’m sorry that isn’t the type of production I would invest the 7th overall pick in. He was not a game changer and if you draft him at 7, just know you’re drafting based on projection and the combine….and what could go wrong there?! LOL
So part of it was the coaching and defensive scheme was awful last year? Sound familiar? I’d say the exact same thing to sum up the bucs season. Smith, for whatever reason, cant seem to coach up the secondary. Now some of that is the lack of pass rush but most is on him. You dont have guys lining up 10 yards off, then when asked about it say its up to the players. Umm what? Its his defense. How is James gona be a pro bowler every year if the bucs coaching doesnt improve? Maybe you have a higher grade on smitty than I do.
Did you not watch the Combine? He absolutely killed it. He finally has that burst back. It wasn’t nearly where it’s at now, during much of the 2017 season. Derwin is definitely a top 10 talent.
James is like a much bigger Honey Badger mixed with some Kam Chancellor.
While Mathieu was a 3rd round pick in 2013, he slipped due to some red flags including some failed drug tests for pot. IIRC he’s stayed out of trouble since being in the league.
Now let’s look at the Safeties that were drafted in round 1 in 2013.
Kenny Vaccaro, Eric Reid and Matt Elam are the safeties drafted in round 1. I would take Mathieu over any of those 3 and you likely would too.
Vaccaro was drafted at 15. So I’m pretty sure in a redraft or with no red flags, Mathieu goes before Vaccoaro and likely in the top 10.
So you’re telling me you don’t want to draft that kind of talent, with James at 7??
So we are spending the 7th pick overall because of Derwin James combine performance? Well I’m glad that strategy has always panned out. It’s a good thing we’ve never heard of people who blow up the combine and fail to meet expectations. How’s John Ross doing btw? Isn’t he the fastest guy in the NFL? 😂
You brought up Mathieu so let’s compare. Honey Badger was a consensus all american, Chuck Bednarik award winner as best defensive player in college football and a freaking Heisman finalist as a true Sophomore. He forced 11 fumbles, had 4.5 sacks, 4 interceptions and 2 punt returns for TD’s in a 2 year career. Compare that to 5.5 sacks and 3 INT’s for James, no all-america, no Heisman finalist. The two are not even close to comparable from a playmaking standpoint and I thought that if you’re taking a safety with a top 7 pick that maybe you would want that. But maybe blowing up the combine is just as good.
Let me know the next time combine performances give NFL teams bonus points in games and I’ll be in favor of it.
I’m glad SR and Trevor have come around on James. Like Mark Cook, I am also an FSU fan and have seen plenty of James in action. IF Chubb or Barkley aren’t there at 7, I take James over Nelson and Vea all day long!!
The real concern I have with selecting Derwin James is Mike Smith. The number 7 pick should be someone that is expected to have an immediate impact on the team. The way Mike Smith handled the safety position last year with veteran players was atrocious. We entered the season rotating players at a position that requires continuity. Also Mike Smiths defense was so vanilla last season that he did his players no favors most Sundays. I have little confidence that he would get Derwin on the field enough to have the impact needed at 7. Also I haven’t seen anything that leads me to believe he could properly use Derwin to take advantage of the things he does best. We are 3 seasons deep and still hoping VHIII can play outside when the only valuable film he’s put together to date is in the slot. With a different DC, then I could see this pick but with Mike Smith calling the shots it’s a coin toss.
As far as Scott “O Reilly” Reynolds Fab 4 is concerned….could you maybe just announce that the political Fab is hidden in the Pirates Cove? It could be like a treasure hunt, where Bucs fans can hear all about Scott’s views on politics and religion but only if they make the effort to go and find it.
I do continue to find it interesting that Scott has expressed outrage over players kneeling due to it happening during NFL games (for which his argument would be that it is a business) then simultaneously wax poetic about his political thoughts or religion in his articles on a Bucs website which one would assume is also a business and has no more bearing than the protests he detests.
As far as safeties are concerned, I have a good one for you, Eric Reid! Solid former 1st round pick from the 49ers and former Pro Bowler who is just waiting for a team to sign him and wouldn’t even cost us a top 10 pick to obtain. Wouldn’t you just loooove that Scott? I’m sure the Glazers would easily sign a check for him right, Bill, I mean Scott? 😛
While it’s the players right to do as they please, you clearly aren’t seeing the business angle of this whole thing. The NFL ratings went down last year because of the kneeling, that’s a fact. When you own a business, would you take an employee who is just as good as another minus the ability of the other person to LOSE you money? That’s common sense and business. People seem to keep forgetting that’s the NFL is; a business. If your boss tells you to do something at your job, you do it or you get fired, that’s how it works for us common people.
Last I checked PR is a business too and the owner of this business is Hugh MacArthur not “O Reilly” Reynolds.
I occasionally follow the podcast of JBF, which in my opinion is not nearly as good as the one PR puts out. However, I’ve heard them proclaim themselves the most followed Bucs pod and/or Bucs site in the past. If Scott’s political diatribes have turned off some readers who have found less political alternatives to listen to or read, isn’t that the same thing as the reduction of viewership of the NFL? Isn’t Scott then doing the same to his PR readership as the protests in the NFL are doing to their’s?
Should Scott get a well paid extension like Mike Evans has, or be frozen out like Colin Kaepernick has?
Mike Smith or not, Derwin James will make an impact from day 1. He’s a great teammate, vocal leader and a straight dog on the field.
Mentioned yesterday that JPP is the closest player to Simeon Rice the Bucs have had since, well, Simeon Rice. Read the Giants SB Nation blog yesterday and most of their fans were glad to get rid of him, even though he friggin’ had 68 tackles and 8.5 sacks last year!!! They’ve obviously been spoiled with solid DE play over the years. Guess one man’s trash really is another man’s treasure. Juiced to see the revamped DL in action under Buckner and think it’ll free up our LB corp to make even more plays, as well as helping out the DB’s.
Speaking of DB’s, our top four CB’s right now are Grimes, VH3, Smith and Elliott. Other than Breeland (who is prob out another 3-4 months), DRC and Breaux there’s not much left on the FA CB market at the moment. Love what Jason has done so far, but curious what kind of rabbit he’s going to pull out of his hat to address the position. Definitely think he’ll draft one next month, but hard to rely on rookie CB’s in year 1. Hoping Grimes’ health holds out all year.
With most of FA signings on the Defensive side IMO the Bucs will draft offensive players mostly RB, G or tackle.
Being that we still have multiple holes to fill, would be really hard imo to be disappointed if the Bucs took Nelson, Barkley, Chubb, James, Ward or even Vea if they don’t get an offer to their liking to trade down. As long as we come out of the first two rounds with starters to fill two of those holes , as well as JPP to show for the 3rd, I’m good.
If Chubb and Nelson are gone then please please take Derwin James. I am not sold on Barkley plus i do not like the idea of taking a RB at 7. There are so many good rb’s in this years draft that we can get a very good one in rounds 2 or 3 and take the best non RB at 7. If we had our defense completely fixed then I’d be ok with taking Barkley but i feel taking James, Vea, or Ward in the first round and grabbing Michel, Nick Chubb, or Guice in the 2nd or 3rd would be a much better route to go than Barkley at 7. With Derwin James he is only going to become a better safety with more experience and the further he gets away from his injury. His size, speed, and athletic ability makes him a very rare beast at safety then you throw in his passion, fire, and love of football i feel he would be an absolute perfect fit in Tampa honestly.
Yea i could careless what she had to say about Ed Glazer. She doesnt have anything to do with him or the Bucs, she doesnt have a job in the front office or in any capacity that even comes close to it. This is America she is allowed to voice her opinion because the men and women like myself who have served our country. I would like it more if politics were kept out of my Bucs news and articles please, Thank you!
I loved Gruden both in Tampa and when he was first in Oakland. I got to watch him coach the Raiders as I live in California so i got see more of him than I did the Bucs before Gruden came to Tampa. I got excited when the rumors of a Bucs and Gruden reunion were being talked about but i do not see him being worth $10 mil. a year for the next 10 years after sitting out 9 years. I also do not think the Bucs offseason would have been as good as it has been especially with us trading for JPP(who i am absolutely stoked over). Gruden relies wayyyyyy too much on the older Veterans and seems to be unable to draft and develop which leads him to these older players and lot have or at least seem to have 0 miles left on the tires. I do not know how next season is going to go or how well we will do as a team and record wise but i feel we are set up better than Gruden would done. Getting Jensen and then JPP was the best possible outcome i could have hoped for. GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You must have not watched Barkley play much last year, I take it. He is the complete package. He’s fast, can cut on a dime, and possibly take it to the house on any carry. Then you add his size, stellar blocking skills, with good hands coming out of the backfield, he is a rare player, and better than Elliott, or Cook,the top drafted running backs from the previous two drafts. Imagine if he falls to us like Howard did last year? Our offense would be set for many years to come with the great young nucleus we would have already. But I seriously doubt he gets by Cleveland’s pic at #4. Unless they decide to trade out of it…
Love the football article.
Hate the a,m radio political rant.
Scott..Did the bucs actually contact Gruden to be the bucs coach.? what was stated by him in Ca. was he never had an offer from the bucs,Gruden will always be a bucs hero so i’d like to know
Scott; not one word about Kansas State Basketball team making it to the Elite Eight?
Fab 4 ruined the Article for me, but I understand Scott is a serious Trump guy and I encourage him and others like him support and vote for Trump after all he is a good Christian, devoted husband,family man. He’s been a wonderful business man; after all, he loves to take other peoples money and ignore paying creditors. Best of all he builds, condo’s for the purpose of money laundering for the Russian and other mafia connected countries for decades. Some of you Trump supporters seriously should learn about who you support; you all have been so conned!
“Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy needs to be answered.”
—C. S. Lewis
Scott did his due diligence, what about you? What, or who, do you stand up for? Or do you just troll around looking to cut people down for their belief’s that are different from yours? You do realize that he has the right to write about what he wants on ‘his’ website, right? If you don’t agree, then focus on the things in the article that you do like. Or you can just ignore it, or go away, and make like a Horse and hit the trail. It’s your choice. You’ve been on here long enough to know his stance, and what he believes, but you would still rather ostracize him for it. Not only that, but you completely missed his point in the first place.
Dearest Dude,
Last I checked, Scott “O Reilly” Reynolds was not the majority owner of Pewter Report but rather Hugh MacArthur was (maybe there’s been a change). So it’s Hugh’s site, not Scott’s (or at least it was).
Is Bill, er Scott’s goal to try to get more political discourse into this Bucs site? If so, is that something you, the Dude fully support? Do you want PR to be a place where fans of the Bucs can not only talk Bucs football and the draft but the latest thing Scott saw on Fox & Friends?
How about he just uses it what is supposed to be about which is the Buccaneers as to sports.
Isn’t it ironic Horse, that Scott’s writings lead to political discourse, the same discourse he would rather not have if it comes from players in the NFL and a viewpoint he doesn’t share?
Republican or Democrat, I would hope Bucs fans can agree on one thing: the Glazer Babies’ general incompetence is largely to blame for the past 10+ years of pathetic play an zero playoff appearances for this team.
So if the spoiled children of Malcolm, who’s greatest accomplishment in life is being born rich, strongly support something or someone, I’m happy to suggest they might be as wrong about it as when they fired Jon Gruden off a 9-7 year to hire what was a DB Coach a month before.
Maybe these trust fund babies should consider other ways to spend their time or money and sell the team? Just a thought.
Always support ya horse and love ya, but you fail to realize the MAIN reason Trump won is because the Democrats marched the most corrupt incompetent opposition to ever hit the presidential trail. Even with the media at her back she couldn’t win. People just got tired of the previous 8 years. As for con Jobs, look at the last 8 years, now THAT is a con job.
How much of that was Russian bot action, CG? This guy is T-R-A-S-H.
If you really think bots of facebook decided this election, then I got some beach front property in Pennsylvania for you e. The left is still searching for reasons they lost when they thought they had it in the bag. Killary was a fraud and exposed as such. THAT is why the dems lost. Weather you like him or not, and I don’t as a person, people were tired of the last 8 years of PC crap and socialistic handouts. And Hillary was four more years of that. Your “bots” didn’t influence a darn thing.
Scott, are you trying to get more posts like cgmaster’s above? Just let us know if this is the type of conversation you think is appropriate for Hugh’s website.
I hear you but you and I are not putting something out like Scott does.
Ok, first off, let’s get the obvious out of the way first. The draft order at 7 you wrote about is mostly correct, but let’s be honest and say that with all the DLine signings there is basically no way we’re looking at Vea anymore. Our entire DLine is under contract for basically 3 years and it’s just a waste of resources to tie so much money and picks into one spot.
The updated draft priority is probably Nelson -Chubb -Barkley -Trade -James -Ward. I’m even beginning to think that Chubb might be running 3rd at this point since next year is a big year for pass rushers and we can survive a year without DLine help now.
Ok, now to Fab 4.
First off, what is this even doing here I don’t even. Second, half these justifications, or “facts” as they’re called, aren’t even justifications. I’m supposed to believe that the owners, in particular the Glazers here, are fine because their family hired X African American coaches and Y African American Quarterbacks? Extending Mike Evans really has nothing to do with anything either. The whole stadium thing is also pretty irrelevant as I’ll discuss in a bit.
The other half is filled with questionable assumptions or just misses the point. The stadium is a private place of the owners due to ownership. They, by the acts of inviting public citizens through both broadcast and tickets, by permitting the use and display of external public entities such as the government, retailers or advertisers and by allowing players and staff to ply their own trade within their bounds, have by action allowed other private individuals into their workplace. When an entity like the government, a public entity, thereby demonstrates political views through the national anthem they, by action, allow them to express political views in their private workplace.
To sum that up, when Chick-Fil-A closes on Sunday for religious reasons, the owners allow it. When we sing the national anthem with fighter jets in everything (which yes, is ultimately a political action), the owners allow it. When their players kneel during the anthem, they now have a problem? Yes, allowing other entities to express their views in your private workplace and then taking issue with your employees doing so is hypocrisy. Whether you own the stadium or not is ultimately irrelevant.
Scott, your claim is correct in that Hill claiming that the Glazers support Trump in their own home is not hypocrisy in that instance. You’ve just entirely missed the point otherwise. It’s like when the Titanic was going under and the captain screams “The ship is sinking!” some other guy comes in and says “Well, technically only the bow is sinking. The stern side is fine.”
Read the rest of the article and you’ll see she evens addresses half your points on the Glazers’ record and even the Mike Evans/DeSean Jackson kneeling.
Strong Fab five Scott. For Fab one,I love the JPP signing. His stats last year are crazy for getting used to doing it with one hand. He is automatically the best DE on our roster day one. With the signings of Curry as well as our new run stuffers, Licht has done a good job working on the tranches. I give him props for that as I was one of those clamoring for him to do something after we missed out on Robert Quinn. I was never a big fan of Bennett coming back as he is 33 years old already and a head case, and this locker room doesn’t need that.
Fab 2 I’m all in for James if the big 3 are gone. We need a strong safety, he is a very good one, the best in the draft. He was horribly misused by a coaching staff last year that all had their foot out the doors early in the season. And still was the best cover safety in college last year. He hasn’t lost any explosiveness at all which the combine proved.
We could even probably trade down a few and get him. Which I am all for right now.
Fab 3, we ow have some damn good flexibility in our draft and that is a huge plus from only a few days ago. I hope we trade down with Buffalo and get their two firsts. Play hard ball Jason, if someone wants to move up for a qb, make them pay! I do think the pick will be James as of right now, but obviously things change. I think our two interior signings do take Vae off the board. Secondary is our absolutely biggest needs, and our CB’s right now our just suspect at best. I don’t like the Ward pick at 7 at all of the Fitzpatrick pick. I need to see one Bama Defensive back do it in the pros before I can buy into that. As for Ward, me personally , I’m tired of midget DB’s. Get some damn height in this secondary for goodness sakes.
Fab 4 I can’t watch ESPN anymore because of liberal hacks like Jamele. She can say whatever she wants that’s free speech, but when you literally turn everything into either a race issue, I’m done listening to you. I stick to good morning football on NFL Network with its lack of politics and just much looser vibe. As for the kneeling thing, I can’t figure out why most people can’t see the business side of this. The players can do what they want for sure, that’s their american right as a person here. And the owners never told the players to stand. The ones that have have been publicly crucified and have since changed their stance. But the fact is, it’s THEIR business. If an owner can’t make you stand, when you need to be signed, guess what? They don’t have to sign you! The players kneeling last year cots a drop in ratings and attendance, that is a fact. So if you see a guy losing you money as and owner, guess what, I’ll just get someone else. The Glazers hosting Trump is just forceable ESPN crap to stir up stuff. It’s a private party. Who cares what they do with their time and money? I don’t, I care if they want to put together a winning football team, which it appears they are trying to do.
That wasn’t supposed to be a response to you JustaBuc sorry.
Nah, it’s all good my man.
I would enjoy Pewter Report a lot more if I wasn’t forced to know that Scott is a hardline GOPer. Unfortunately, he feels the need to remind us every couple months or so.
WTH I thought this is a format for SPORTS NOT FING
POLITICS!!!
Fun fact: Raymond James Stadium, that privately owned palace was built completely by publicly funded money. Our community taxes undoubtedly helped to enrich the Glazers.
“Glazer never contributed a dime to stadium construction. ”
http://www.sptimes.com/News/012501/news_pf/SuperBowl2001/We_paid_for_it_it_pai.shtml
You’re welcome Glazer Babies.
I love the piece about calling out our toughness as a football team, obviously we have talked about the soft training camp and practices, but we also had some soft players. I think Jason Licht has improved that a bit this year so far as well. And I think the front office ranks the non QB players like this:
1: Nelson
2: Chubb
3: Barkley
4: Vea
5: James
And I wouldn’t be upset with any of those outcomes either.
Exactly how I would pick em’.
But why would both of you pick Vea over James? Our entire DLine is under contract for 3 years. Unless you think there’s some complete catastrophic failure in the DLine, but even then Vea only really makes sense if you think Unrein and Allen are going to blow chunks. If JPP and Curry blow chunks, then we’ll probably just look to the next draft for DEs.
Vea isn’t really a McCoy clone if you wanted to replace him as well. Vea is, imo, more suited to play the NT role. Sure, he MIGHT have some pass rush in him. But his tape is pretty clear that he’s a space eater.
Vea is probably the bottom of the barrel choice. It just doesn’t make sense to go for him. He might even be off the board at this point tbh.
Great Fab 5 Scott. I’m ok with James if that’s who they choose. Obviously it depends on how the draft board falls. I love the moves Licht has made in FA. Cant wait for the draft!
I hate politics in my sport’s but thanks for sticking up for one of our owners ( Bucs Related News) who had a political fund raiser in his home. That’s totally different than a player protesting during a televised game, during the national anthem at his JOB. Who protests at a job? If you do you should expect consequences in some form. That;s just reality. Think or believe whatever you want on your own time but don’t force feed it on Live TV, at your Job during a sporting event where half of the Fans are gonna disagree. That’s just stupid no matter how you look at it. I do think it would be wise to try to not bring up anything political but I can see it happening sometimes when it involves the NFL because no matter how much most of us hate it, it is NFL related in some way. Anyway……
Here is a bold prediction (which i’ve never done before).
First 5 picks will be QB’s. That’s just how i seeing this unfolding. Teams need QB’s more than any other position and if you don’t have one you’ll be looking for a new job (GM’s) soon . It seems like there is 5 or 6 QB’s worth taking in the 1st Rd and teams will usually (lately) do anything to get one. Look at 2017 Draft. GO BUCS!!!
I like the toughness angle. And I initially wanted to resign Pamphile. Looks like with only a 1 year deal from the Titans, everybody else saw what Licht/Koetter saw. For continuity on the O-Line, I move Marpet back to the right side where he was a stud, let’s stop moving the guy around. Draft or bring someone in to compete with Sweezy on the left side. As #7, go for the highest rated guy we think is a Pro Bowler. If that’s Chubb, Nelson, Barkley or any of the other guys, pull the trigger. If the guys available are only marginally better than the next 10 or 15, trade down and build the roster.
Fun Fact…..
PFT:
NFL stadiums have received an estimated $6.7 billion from taxpayers
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 28, 2017, 9:23 AM EDT
With Nevada kicking in $750 million to build the Raiders a new stadium, NFL teams have now received nearly $7 billion in tax money to build stadiums over the last two decades.
According to an analysis from ESPN, the total price tag to taxpayers for building new stadiums and renovating old ones has been $6.7 billion since 1997. That includes 19 new stadiums and three major renovation projects.
Not every team has received public money. The stadium the Jets and Giants share in New Jersey was financed privately, and the stadium the Rams and Chargers will share in Los Angeles is being financed privately as well.
The NFL still makes most of its money from its television contracts. But there may not be enough attention paid to how much money the NFL makes from state and local leaders who are eager to attract teams or keep teams in place, and willing to pay a lot of taxpayer money on stadiums.
This is for ALL you Glazer Hating Fans!!!
If you hate the Glazers so much for being wise business men than find another team!!! Some of you act like they bought the team and try to suck just to [email protected] off Buc Fans.
Culverhouse was a terrible owner. The Glazers at least try hard and are getting better. The Rays have terrible owners not the Bucs. Sick of all you whiny Glazer hating Fans! Some of you are the worst Fans ever. GO BUCS!!!
Oh, so you’re saying if you were a Bucs fan in the 80’s you had to like the Culverhouses? If you like Chick-Fil-A that means you believe in the same things the owners do? Is that so WinstonMVP? Tell me more about how I should live my life please. I appreciate your lessons.
The Glazer Babies were some of the cheapest owners in the NFL the decade after Malcolm’s stroke. That is a fact, and it undoubtedly played a role in the team’s record thereafter. They made a bunch of poor decisions on coaches and GM’s and are rumored to have involved themselves in personnel decisions that didn’t quite work out.
Regarding the fact that the majority of NFL stadiums are publicly funded, doesn’t that strike people as interesting? That rich owners use their leverage to get the communities to foot the bill for their stadiums for which they can then profit and set the tone politically or otherwise?
Of course all is fair in love and capitalism, but I tend to shudder when I think about the concept of these “private businesses” of which games are played in publicly funded stadiums and benefit from an antitrust exemption.
Every once in awhile I forget how hard the Glazer Babies worked to be in the position they are in today. One day I too hope to work hard enough to be born rich and into privilege like they are so I can have super expensive fundraisers for politicians for whom benefit me financially.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2014/09/16/how-the-government-helps-the-nfl-maintain-its-power-and-profitability/?utm_term=.ccf98cf2e74a
Devasher, you sound like a bittermen. Apparently capitalism is not your favorite. Would socialism be better for you? This way everyone else can work hard and we can take their money and redistribute it to those who would rather suck off the preverbeable tit.
Try not to hate so much on folks who have success no matter how they achieved it. It’s not a good look for you.
Don’t mind the snowflakes Buc-n-philly, they are still looking for safe places to vent.
Great use of ad-hominem cgmaster . When you have nothing of merit to say, just call people who disagree with you names 😂
Don’t worry guys, I watched Fox News too back in the day before it became unbearable. I know y’alls dog whistles and tricks.
Well Philly Fan,I have a bacherlors in economics, minored in business and have a higher net worth than most people, though I didn’t “earn” my wealth by being born into a rich family like our current very “successful” NFL owners. In fact, we’ve been winning so much since the Glazer Babies took the reigns from Malcolm (the guy who actually earned it and was a great owner) I’m tired of it 😂 But I love the straw man though.
My point which you missed because of your own political filter and BS is that the public funded the stadium, the government has given the NFL antitrust exemptions, which are inherently not capitalistic, unless you’d like to argue how publicly funded projects and laws that favor specific businesses like the NFL are great examples of the free market. I must’ve missed that class, but do tell professor!
I dont login much anymore these days, I normally read from the outside.. Love the PR website and recommend it to any bucs fan I meet.
Ill just come out and say it.. Jamele Hill is a Racist B**CH. ESPN has totally lost me as a viewer because of how bad that channel has become.
The color of a persons skin was ALWAYS a non issue when it came to sports when I was growing up.. that was my brother on the team weather he was red, white, black or brown. yet this person and company continue to push the race issue because its what gets raiting.. No its what turns people away. Jamele Hill is one step out the door at ESPN and unfortunately when that happens she will just bring her soap box to one of the bigger channels that promotes this race war in our country.
The Hit piece ESPN allowed her to publish against the glazers was mis informed and did nothing to calm tensions.. It was a hit piece intended to get people made and angry at the glazers. Social Justice isnt “Bitch till I get my way”.. If these people that are participating in Social Justice need to have their voice heard so bad then do it in a well thought out, Factual and most importantly peaceful way. Dont just create more hate. People in life will disagree with you, I am sure there are some that might disagree with what I am typing and thats ok that is the beauty of our country. That White and Black men fight for, TOGETHER.
Thx
John
PFT: Eagles’ Michael Bennett indicted on felony charge of injuring elderly woman.
Yup the same guy some bucs fans were complaining we didn’t go after. The guy is a walking disaster.
Good grief – I thought the last time (which was like the third time, I think) you said you’d stop the political posts Scott.
But, okay:
1) “Trump? Don’t vote for him”…that completely misses the point that whether or not someone voted for him or didn’t, because they liked him or didn’t, nobody in America should be okay with the POTUS breaking the law (be that emoluments left right and center; prostitution, blackmail, obstruction of justice, etc.), repeatedly. I know your a huge Trumpie….I get that you love all of this red-meat America-first stuff he spouts out – but at what point will you see this is not a question of who you like politically, it’s a question of whether you like the law/Constitution or not.
2) “which is the owners’ private workplace … in which First Amendment rights of freedom of speech are not protected. That’s a fact”. Actually it’s not. Constitutional rights are yours as a citizen/lawful-resident everywhere in the country. You have the right to say (protest) what you want, as long as that it is not in violation of a law, and you cannot be lawfully be prevented from doing so (hence the reason nobody was arrested for kneeling during the anthem). If you do so on someone else’s private domain, they can do things lawfully in response to you – like not let you on their domain again – but that doesn’t mean you waive your First Amendment rights of freedom of speech just because you’re not on your own property. Likewise, you don’t get to ignore the law, including the Constitution, just because you are on your own property.
So, there’s that….and we should take Nelson when he falls to us at 7!
Well said, East.
I agree with you, but it’s not going to stop Scott doing this; he believes he’s right and he has the right to believe it. I just wish he wouldn’t post on Pewter Report because I will just respond and I don’t like having to call out someone, especially when it has nothing to do with the Buccaneers and the game of football.
Bucs fan since 1980 and i hated the previous owners because they were truly bad owners. The Glazers at least are trying hard to bring a good product. That don’t make them bad owners unless your just mad because of there political beliefs. Besides that I don’t know what your trying to say about telling you how to live your life. lol . I just said I’m sick of you whiners, hating, bashing fans. get a life. If you hate the Glazers because of there political beliefs that’s fine but it sounds like your whining about stuff that happen over 20 years because of your political beliefs. How much came out of your pocket for the stadium deal???? What the heck does that have to do with anything related to the 2018 Bucs? Let it go. It was over 20 years ago. It’s not even relevant. Say, do what you want but . im not stopping you. I will too. As in sticking up for my whole team. That includes the Glazers. Because I’m sick of all the stupid hate against the Glazers. Especially over stuff that happen over 20 years ago. People who post that kind hate against the owners of the Bucs on a Bucs blog site , someone should answer back. GO BUCS!!!
Every time I purchase anything money comes out of my pockets.
Extra 1 cent sales tax county wide Hillsborough County, so, yeah I pay for the stadium.
Also, people have been harsh on the Glazers ,not great football minds but think they try.
GO BUCS
Chetthevette, agree with you. The Glazer’s have given alot to the community.
Robert Kraft is friends with Trump right? Best owner in the game and it’s kinda easy to see, given the objective W-L record which could care less about BS arguments of “they try.” As I said, the children of Malcolm most certainly weren’t trying when they cheaped out on the roster for almost 10 years after his stroke. How do you ignore the lack of spending for years? Firing the SB winning coach for a DB coach only to come back to him begging a decade later?
One great thing about sports is that wins and losses don’t care about your feelings. I don’t care whether you think Licht “tries hard” he’s 22-42, and as Bill Parcells famously said “you are what your record says you are.” And the Glazer Babies, based on record, are garbage owners.
I don’t care about what Jemele Hill says about hypocrisy. But she’s been right in calling Trump a white supremacist. When you fail to vigorously condemn those torch-wielding fascist assclown white supremacists in Charlottesville, you condone it… which makes you a sympathizer, which effectively makes you a white supremacist.
Ed Glazer holding a fundraiser for Trump makes me hate this ownership family even more. Foueck these goddamn planet destroyers.
You mean like Obama failed to condemn black lives matters as they rolled over people and just generaly blew stuff up and robbed stors? Ahh the hypocrisy.
Please identify instances where BLM “rolled over people and just generally blew stuff up and robbed stors [sic].” Because, as far as I know, that never actually happened and it’s another made up diversion to avoid dealing with the actual fascist assclown, racist, narcissist, lying sack of shit, pile of crap, ignoramus, clueless unhinged manbaby who currently resides in the WH. Get a fouecking clue dude.
You’re probably getting your news from InfoWars with that paragon of truth and virtue, Alex Jones.
Good article Scott, right up until you started the political stuff.
I am way over Trump and his band of pirates. Even though it’s hard to keep up when he keeps on making them walk the plank. As far as the Glazers throwing Trump a party, why the hell not? If some one gave me a huge ass tax break I throw him a party too.
The Glazer’s and Trump have a lot in common. Dubious slum lords for fathers embolden with Daddies money.
All great fortunes are usually accompanied by a great crime.
At this point I feel quite sorry for our President. Special Councils, porn actresses and playboy bunnies with good lawyers. I know I would crack like a walnut under that kind of pressure. Say what you will the man has stamina.
GO BUCS
Fab 4 is pure garbage. The ESPN article is pure garbage. Scott’s word is pure garbage.
And yet here you are soaking it all up like. I find it funny that people bitch about something they don’t have to read.
Excellent piece on James and generally a real eye opener as to why the Bucs might pick him at #7, if “North Carolina State defensive end Bradley Chubb, Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson or Penn State running back Saquon Barkley” are all off the board by then. The film reveals that nearly every thing written about Derwin James is true and he could very well combine with Justin Evans to form the basis for a very strong secondary. Watching the film, however, did reveal one concerning tendency. While James tackles well against the run game, squaring up, lowering his shoulder, and wrapping up, in the film it appears his form tackling suffers when making a stop in the open field. In the film he appears to go for the big hit with his shoulder and forgets to wrap up the receiver. Obviously, the compiled clips are meant to show James at his best so all the hits in the secondary result in good outcomes for the Seminoles. My concern is going for big hits in the secondary at the NFL level won’t work at the next level and invariably fail at a critical moment. Hopefully, if the Bucs take James at #7, the coaches will be able to coach him up to wrap up and get the man on the grass in the secondary and eschew the big hit.
@devasher No where did I say draft him based on his combine performance. You’re putting words into people’s mouths. I brought up the combined performance to show you that his burst from freshman year is finally back. That is all. You draft him based on his college career.
You continue to blame not being 100% and not having that burst back during the 2017 season, as a reason to not draft him. And that is lazy. You say you are an FSU fan, well you damn know the talent he is. For whatever you just don’t like the pick, you like someone else like Nelson or Vea.
No, I continue to point to Derwin James lack of game changing plays, he’s not shown any history of turnovers compared to Mathieu, Taylor et al. And yes give me Quentin Nelson 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. Dude is a brawler.
FSU has not been significantly altered either when Derwin James was on the field 10-3 (15), 6-6 (17, James didn’t play the bowl game), or when he missed the majority of the 10-3 (16) season.
Shluldn’t his college career matter when trying to project a strong safety at pick 7?
I’m a FSU fan. not a fanboy who instantly drools over every player because they wear the jersey. I loved Winston and Dalvin Cook, both are generational talents and displayed that on the field. What has Derwin James produced other than generational hype? Remember all the hype Myron Rolle got? Newsflash, he was an average college safety. I could see that and didn’t need my fanboy glasses to think he wasn’t going to amount to a lot as an NFL player with his lack of turnovers. I hated the Aguayo pick because it was clear he had regressed from his Freshman year, meanwhile Scott who barely ever saw the guy kick was Aguayo’s biggest cheerleader in Tampa.
Take off your garnett colored glassses 1983 and see the world around you, not everyone from FSU is this can’t miss prospect. Even some greats (Peter Warrick, Andre Wadsworth, Bjorn Werner) don’t pan out.
Well you seem to be the only one who sees Derwin that way, literally., I’ll take my eyes and the eyes of the 100’s of scouts who would put him in the top ten over your eyes. And no those aren’t rose colored glasses, those are facts. And yet you still don’t mention James was the highest rated cover saftey last year. You keep skipping over that fact. He has more interceptions coming out than Jalen Ramsey did as a corner, but I”m assuming you probably thought Ramsey didn’t have the ball skills to play in the pros either right?
Someone needs to give you a statue of a strawman with your name on it cgmaster.
If Derwin James is so clearly this top 5 player and generational SS (which one would need to be to be taken at 7) then why is he only being hyped up as a top 10 pick only after the combine? Why was FSU’s defense no worse for wear when they played the Independence Bowl without him, or 2016 without him?
Number 1, Ramsey and James have the same amount of int’s and sacks at FSU (look it up), Ramsey was a consensus all-american when he left also played some safety (star) and you realize good corners lock down their receivers and don’t get thrown to right? So when Ramsey was covering his man, you think the QB is going his way by choice?
You draft elite corners to cover their player/zone first, tackling second and picks third. You draft elite safeties to make plays on the ball in addition to tackling and covering. If you draft a SS at 7 because he’s big/fast and can cover TE’s I don’t know what to say. I don’t hate him as a prospect, I’d take him lower in the first round based on his upside, but I’m not banging the table to draft a SS at 7 largely because of potential who hasn’t shown much of it on the field for a team who wasn’t playing any greater when he was on it than when he was off.
I don’t mind a political discussion with my sports, as long as it is germaine.
In this case, I believe Cook was right to touch on the subject since the owners of the Bucs were attacked by this woman for being hypocrites.
I certainly am no fan of Trump, quite the contrary. I believe he is leaving a terrible stain and smell in the White House which will take time to remove.
Hopefully that will happen sooner than later if the Mueller Investigation can prove what many of us suspect.
What the Hill article showed me proves the old adage, “a fool and his money soon part.”
Why an owner of an NFL team would hist a fundraiser for an egomaniac who brags he has hurt the NFL’s owners pocketbooks by affecting attendance and ratings is beyone me.
As for the Glazers themselves, I believe as owners they have been above average in my humble opinion.
Not only have they established the Glazer Foundation which has promoted a lot of good works in the area,, they have tried, albeit fruitlessly, to improve this team and put a winner on the field.
The fact that this hasn’t happended doesn’t mean they aren’t trying to do their damndest to make it happen.
This isn’t college football where you can achieve a dynasty by getting rich alumni to funnel huge sums of money into the program, This is the NFL which is highly competitive and built for parity.
Many times I think the teams harshest critics are those who are mainly huge college football fans who watch one NFL game a week, the Bucs.
When they see Winston get hit and fumble the ball they groan and say same old Winston forgetting that is exactly what happened to Tom Brady to practically end and lose the last Super Bowl.
Whatever the case, I have mixed feelings about the draft. I don’t think the Bucs need to draft a safety so highin the first round.
At the same time. I don’t pretend to have any acumen for personnel like many of the armchair GMs out here who claim to watch endless hours of tape a whole slew of players.
Sorry about the few typos and misspellings in the above post but for some reason I can’t type on this page because it sticks or bogs down. Does this happen to anyone else of am I just getting picked on.
After reading a few more posts though I had to continue on with the political roundtable.
Back in the 70s I was in college when Watergate came out and came home every afternoon to watch the hearings.
I actually voted for Nixon, my first vote in an election. but it became apparent to me after a period of time this man was trying to hide something and was probably guilty of what he was being charged with.
I was saddened by that fact but I remember members like Howard Baker and Sam Irvin putting country and the rule of law over party.
When you look at what Trump has gotten himself involved in, it makes what Nixon did look like stealing an apple from a grocery store.
Yet many Republican members of Congress and the Senate contiue to look the other way or offer lame excuses for his behavior.
So I’m going to call out a few people here and if you want to do the same with me, have at me.
Unlike our President, I can take it after I dish it out.
HitMan55: I too believe Hill might be a racist, but why refer to the woman as a bi%@h. Are you a mysoginist like your glorious leader. The name was totally uncalled for.
Cgmaster, I always get a kick out of people who say they voted for Trump. because Hillary was crooked.
It didn;t bother you that the person you voted for was a bigger proven crook and liar than she ever dreamed of.
In the end, I was really surprised to see how few pro Trump supporters there were posting.
Is it possible they have become tired of the constant negative headlines, upheavels, firings, barages of invectives towards our intelligence agencies and law enforcement agencies and slimy, sleazy behavior coming from the White House.
And despite the fact Scott and I will never see eye to eye politically, I do respect his right to have his opinion and believe it was acceptable to insert that piece in his Fab 5.
It did, afterall, pertain to the Buccaneer organization
Besides, look what a repsonse it got and afterall, that is what writers and advertisers are looking for.
Thanks Scott, for allowing me to continue to keep up on the latest Buc news for FREE.
drdneast, I too have issues with the site. It cuts out and refreshes frequently. I appreciate your view point though I disagree politically. I voted for Trump because at the time I was tired of the same old politics and did not trust HC. It turns out Trump is unfit as Commnadet and Chief but do to his being in the position our Country will benefit due to none of us accepting corruption and same old politics from either side. Most of us reside some where in the middle with leanings swayed a little more right or left.
I am optimistic about our future as we will rise above where we are now.
I am saddened about how folks in the media are taking advantage of the poor race culture we have ongoing. It is sensationalized. Not every white or black person is a racist no matter what side you are on and folks like Jamele Hill propagate that mentality. It is sad.
Have a great day and go Bucs!
Scott, not understanding why you want to get into politics on your sports forum. You enjoy trying to divide your readers? This should be a forum where right and left can come together to discuss football and forget about politics.
Please stick to football!!!!! I’m just over all of this political crap with it’s completely biased viewpoints and total intolerance of opposing opinions.
The trenches were address during the free agency period. I’m going with James if Chubb or Berkeley is off the board.James is really going to help the secondary out ALOT!!!!! If we don’t get him remember I said this, we going to miss out on one of the best Safties that ever played the game.
@cgmaster27 @bucsfan1983 You’re noles right and follow the team? Do you remember when Jacob Pugh called out the lack of leadership for the awful 2-5 start to the season right, specifically calling out players for looking forward to the draft? But Derwin James is a great leader? What am I missing here guys?
https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-noles/2017/10/30/16573060/jacob-pugh-leadership-2017-team-compares-fsu-season-nightmare-cites-lack-of-player-leadership
Probably one of the best Fab’s I’ve read in a while, despite Fab 4. I believe Scott thoroughly missed the point Miss Hill was trying to make, but I don’t even want to get into that.
Plain ad simple, the closest thing I wanna see on my favorite Bucs site that has any resemblance to a political party, is NFC vs AFC
Last year, the rating was down due to some major mistakes. It is of the utmost priority of an employee to do what is ordered. Well, still we have to stick to the football instead of involving in the politics. But opinions are always welcome, as i loved to read different views. 🙂
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