FAB 5. SR’s Buc Shots

• PewterReport.com’s Mark Cook was the Florida State pro day on Tuesday and asked Seminoles safety Derwin James, a native of Haines City, Fla., if he wouldn’t mind being drafted by Tampa Bay next month.

“That is great,” James said. “That is close to home. I grew up in Florida – a central Florida kid. I feel like it would be great (to be drafted by the Buccaneers).”

James, who is cousins with former Florida State players Vince Williams and Karlos Williams, and former Bucs running back Mike James, has never played with former Seminoles quarterback Jameis Winston, but has met him several times at Florida State games and admires his competitiveness, which is akin to his own.

“I [play football] because I love it,” James said. “There is no question. I am passionate about this game. I didn’t start playing this game for the money or anything. I remember being three or four years old and I was just in the backyard playing with my friends and neighbors. I just wanted to win and score the touchdowns. I just feel like I play this game to be a competitor and I just love to compete.”

Bucs DE Will Gholston - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs DE Will Gholston – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

• The Buccaneers have added three players that can play defensive end in the 2018 offseason in signings of Vinny Curry and Mitch Unrein, and the trade for Jason Pierre-Paul. With the expected return of Noah Spence, it is possible that the Bucs don’t draft a defensive end this year, as it’s not a great year for pass rushers – but don’t rule it out, either.

The acquisition of those three defensive ends also does something else. It puts a great deal of pressure on Will Gholston to step up his game – and fast. Gholston signed a five-year, $27.5 million contract last offseason that included $13 million in guaranteed money. Gholston, who had two seasons with three sacks apiece before registering zero during the 2017 campaign, made $7 million and underachieved.

Now slated to make $6.5 million, the 26-year old Gholston must stand and deliver this year or lose playing time to the likes of Unrein, Spence or Pierre-Paul. After the 2018 season, Gholston doesn’t have any more guaranteed money and the Bucs could trade or release him without any cap penalty next offseason.

• New defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul’s cap value in Tampa Bay this year is $12.5 million in the form of an $11.25 million base salary, a $250,000 workout bonus and $1 million in roster bonus money, which is payable each week that he is on the active roster this season. Despite such a high salary cap number, the Bucs still have enough cap room to extend the contracts of middle linebacker Kwon Alexander, guard Ali Marpet and left tackle Donovan Smith before the 2018 regular season.

• PewterReport.com has gained over 150 Twitter followers in just one week due to our constant updates during free agency. Stay up to date with the latest Bucs free agency news and Bucs draft news by following us on Twitter. We are nearing 29,000 followers and you can help us get there. To follow @PewterReport on Twitter please click here, and to follow us on Facebook please click here.

• Like all teams, the Buccaneers have players that were eligible for performance-based pay, which is a pool of $4.2 million paid by the NFL for rookies and league-minimum veterans – players that aren’t paid a lot but play a lot of minutes. The NFL keeps its pay scale formula under wraps, but here is the breakdown for the top 10 Bucs who earned some extra money.

1. LB Kendell Beckwith – $270,427
2. CB Robert McClain – $245,156
3. WR Adam Humphries – $203,727
4. CB Ryan Smith – $196,792
5. MLB Kwon Alexander – $190,362
6. WR Chris Godwin – $173,427
7. FS Justin Evans – $159,333
8. DE Ryan Russell – $155,200
9. TE Cameron Brate – $151,925
10. RB Peyton Barber – $146,415

• The Buccaneers incorporated a different recruiting tactic with former Baltimore Ravens center Ryan Jensen. Tampa Bay general manager Jason Licht knew Jensen, his No. 1 target in free agency was drawing interest from the Indianapolis Colts to play guard and would be visiting both teams before making a final decision. Licht and director of football administration Mike Greenberg knew they were going to have to make Jensen the highest-paid center in the NFL, and Licht took Jensen out to dinner with guard Ali Marpet and tackle Donovan Smith to help with the sales pitch.

But Licht took it a step further. Aside from personally connecting with Jensen, who grew up just 60 miles away from Licht’s Midwestern hometown, Tampa Bay’s general manager had a local airbrush artist paint a helmet for the former Baltimore center with his likeness on one side next to the Tampa skyline, and a version of the Bucs’ skull and crossed swords logo on the other.

Jensen was given the gift on the way out of town so that he would have a parting gift from One Buc Place to view on his flight to Indianapolis. Licht’s helmet didn’t seal the deal. The opportunity to play next to Marpet and Smith and snap the ball to quarterback Jameis Winston did, along with the huge payday. But Jensen appreciated the helmet and the fact that the Bucs were pulling out all the stops in their recruitment of him. He felt wanted in Tampa Bay, and Licht got his man.

• I have a lot of respect for former Bucs head coach Jon Gruden, who came back to the NFL to coach the Oakland Raiders again. I learned more football under him than any other coach I’ve ever covered in Tampa Bay. When the Glazers were contemplating replacing Dirk Koetter with Gruden at the end of the 2017 season I was excited about the prospects of having Gruden’s energy and fire back on the sidelines of Raymond James Stadium.

But when his price tag became $10 million per year over 10 years, the Glazers wisely bowed out of contention. That’s too much for any NFL coach not named Bill Belichick.

Granted, he may not have made the exact same moves, such as signing running back Doug Martin, who was let go by Tampa Bay this offseason. But I have not been impressed by Gruden’s personnel moves in Oakland, and that was the knock on him during his tenure in Tampa Bay when the Bucs whiffed on a lot of draft picks and signed a bunch of aging free agents at the end of their careers.

Gruden has signed Martin, quarterback Josh Johnson, wide receiver Jordy Nelson, safety Marcus Gilchrist, linebacker Tahir Whitehead, cornerback Rashaan Melvin, tight end Derek Carrier, fullback Keith Smith, linebacker Kyle Wilber, defensive lineman Tank Carradine, and has re-signed tight end Lee Smith and defensive tackle Justin Ellis.

Although the Raiders have different needs than the Bucs do, I just happen to like what Tampa Bay has done in free agency a lot more than what Gruden has been doing in Oakland. While Gruden has been working with Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie, those signings reek of Gruden. I don’t know how well Gruden and Bucs general manager Jason Licht would have fared in free agency together, but knowing how Gruden has to get his way, I don’t think it would have been as productive as it has been for the Bucs this offseason. Do you agree or disagree?

• A brand new Pewter Nation Podcast will be taped later today at One Buccaneer Place, so look for that later on Friday – just in time for your afternoon commute home from work. Trevor Sikkema, Mark Cook and I will discuss how the trade for Jason Pierre-Paul affects Tampa Bay’s defensive line and the Bucs’ draft plans and much more, so don’t miss it.

Pewter-Nation-Podcast-Pewter-ReportIf you didn’t get a chance to listen to our latest Pewter Nation Podcast, which was one of the most listened-to podcasts we’ve ever done, you can hear the PR staff break down the team’s salary cap status and why the Buccaneers weren’t as active in free agency as fans hoped they would be initially. You can click here to listen to Episode 65: Free Agency Ain’t So Free After All.

If you haven’t listened to this week’s podcast yet, it’s the perfect way to enjoy your lunch on a Friday afternoon or battle rush hour traffic on your way home from work. In addition to listening to the Pewter Nation Podcasts on PewterReport.com you can also subscribe to the free podcasts at PodBean by clicking here and on SoundCloud by clicking here.

• And finally, we’ll have a brand new PewterReport.com 2018 Bucs’ 7-Round Mock Draft for you on Monday morning. There will be a lot of changes in this mock draft, so don’t miss it.

And don’t miss PewterReport.com’s coverage of the NFL Owners Meeting in Orlando next Tuesday. Trevor Sikkema, Mark Cook and I will be there interviewing Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter live from the NFC Coaches Breakfast with the media, in addition to interviews with Tampa Bay general manager Jason Licht and Bucs co-chairman Joel Glazer.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

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CrustyClam
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CrustyClam

Well said. Well written. We may not go to the big game, but I believe a little more than I did last season.

tomcin
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tomcin

Let me just say, I believe CB is a higher priority than S. With that being said I would draft a pure CB Denzil Ward before James or Kirkpatrick. I would also cut underachieving sackless & might I say worthless Gholston.

FLBoy84
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FLBoy84

Not disagreeing that he needs to step up, but there’s no salary cap relief by cutting Gholston, as his $6.5M is already guaranteed for 2018. Only thing you’re doing is just weakening your depth. While he’s not a QB hunter, he is solid in setting the edge and defending the run.

BadgerW4
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BadgerW4

I’m right there with you, despite what will no doubt be a slew of downvotes. Allow this to be me going on record saying Ward will be a better NFL player than James. It’s my personal belief taking James at 7 would be a HUGE error, but I’d be very happy with getting Ward there. I’m not as high on Golston as others, either, but for now he’ll have to do due to the guaranteed money.

plopes808
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plopes808

We’re on the hook this year either way, so we may as well keep him for depth and versatility. We can still use him as a rotational DE/DT and cut him with no loss next year after we have time to find a worthy replacement.

buddah
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buddah

Licht’s having a great off-season. Good essay on James. I’m ok with either James or Fitzpatrick. Skip the politics. I don’t come here for that. I come here to get away from the incessant political divisions currently plaguing our country. My partisanship is to the Buccaneers.

e
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e

Nice work, Scott! I do like James, but the whole “ferocious hitter” thing in today’s NFL is becoming a liability. I do like his leadership and other abilities, where I would put him above Vea. I really think though, that the QBs are going to go pretty quickly before the Bucs get their choice of Chubb, Nelson or Barkley… (most likely Barkley?). So, would you take Barkley or James at that point? Tough choice. I still hope that the scenario leads to a sliding QB at #7 and the Bucs end up trading back for more picks. On your other… Read more »

Devasher
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Devasher

As a FSU fan/alum, NO to Derwin James at 7. He’s a clear notch below the top 3 non QB’s, he didn’t have a good year last year and FSU’s defense was largely hot garbage as the barely held on to a 36 year bowl streak. Trade down to the teens and take him? Fine. Want to compare Derwin James to Sean Taylor? Sure, Sean Taylor had 10 Interceptions his Junior year at Miami and 14 interceptions, 3 TD’s (included in that 2 Int’s in the CFB championship game) in his two year playing career there. Miami was a very… Read more »

Bucsfan1983
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Bucsfan1983

I guess you forgot James was coming off of a season ending knee injury the year before. You can’t blame him for FSU’s defense being so poor. That is a 100% on former DC Charles Kelly.

Devasher
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Devasher

So you’re telling me that James coming off a major knee injury and being less explosive last year gives me more reason to support why he should be a top 10 pick at safety? Do tell! And believe me, Charles Kelly was an atrocious DC whom I actively wanted replaced halfway through his first sesaon ruining the defense. That said, it wasn’t as though Derwin James was making big plays in between the blown coverages that plagued the defense. He just wasn’t. If you want to gamble 7 overall on a player that hasn’t shown that he’s game changer in… Read more »

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

Less explosive Devasher? Did you miss the combine I assume? James did not lose a step. For those who don’t watch FSU football, which I’m guessing you don’t. The defensive scheme and coaching was awful at FSU last year, ask any Noles fan. James was never asked to blitz like his first year and still came out the number one rated cover safety in college football last year. So no, he hasn’t lost anything. No one is comparing his game to Taylor. Sean Taylor is one of the greatest ever. But you can book it that James will be a… Read more »

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

Sorry, didn’t see you’re an FSU fan on there. It was clear to most FSU fans that the coaching had everything to do with blown coverage’s last year. And most players, not saying James, didn’t even bust their asses as coach Fisher had two feet out the door by week 3 of last year. Just my opinion, but James wold be an easy choice if the big three of Chubb, Barkley, and Nelson are gone. We need a strong safety badly and our secondary is now our weakest link on this team.

Devasher
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Devasher

So far Bucsfan1983 said “I guess you forgot James was coming off a season ending injury the year before” in reply to my post stating “and 10-3 the year he largely missed due to his knee injury, so tell me how big an impact he was on the overall record.” cgmaster writes “For those who don’t watch FSU football, which I’m guessing you don’t.” in reply to the original post where I open with “As a FSU fan/alum” If y’all can’t be bothered to actually read what I’m typing what is the point of arguing with you? Yes, I’ve watched… Read more »

Darin
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Darin

So part of it was the coaching and defensive scheme was awful last year? Sound familiar? I’d say the exact same thing to sum up the bucs season. Smith, for whatever reason, cant seem to coach up the secondary. Now some of that is the lack of pass rush but most is on him. You dont have guys lining up 10 yards off, then when asked about it say its up to the players. Umm what? Its his defense. How is James gona be a pro bowler every year if the bucs coaching doesnt improve? Maybe you have a higher… Read more »

Bucsfan1983
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Bucsfan1983

Did you not watch the Combine? He absolutely killed it. He finally has that burst back. It wasn’t nearly where it’s at now, during much of the 2017 season. Derwin is definitely a top 10 talent. James is like a much bigger Honey Badger mixed with some Kam Chancellor. While Mathieu was a 3rd round pick in 2013, he slipped due to some red flags including some failed drug tests for pot. IIRC he’s stayed out of trouble since being in the league. Now let’s look at the Safeties that were drafted in round 1 in 2013. Kenny Vaccaro, Eric… Read more »

Devasher
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Devasher

So we are spending the 7th pick overall because of Derwin James combine performance? Well I’m glad that strategy has always panned out. It’s a good thing we’ve never heard of people who blow up the combine and fail to meet expectations. How’s John Ross doing btw? Isn’t he the fastest guy in the NFL? 😂 You brought up Mathieu so let’s compare. Honey Badger was a consensus all american, Chuck Bednarik award winner as best defensive player in college football and a freaking Heisman finalist as a true Sophomore. He forced 11 fumbles, had 4.5 sacks, 4 interceptions and… Read more »

Bucsfan1983
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Bucsfan1983

I’m glad SR and Trevor have come around on James. Like Mark Cook, I am also an FSU fan and have seen plenty of James in action. IF Chubb or Barkley aren’t there at 7, I take James over Nelson and Vea all day long!!

stlbucsfan
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stlbucsfan

The real concern I have with selecting Derwin James is Mike Smith. The number 7 pick should be someone that is expected to have an immediate impact on the team. The way Mike Smith handled the safety position last year with veteran players was atrocious. We entered the season rotating players at a position that requires continuity. Also Mike Smiths defense was so vanilla last season that he did his players no favors most Sundays. I have little confidence that he would get Derwin on the field enough to have the impact needed at 7. Also I haven’t seen anything… Read more »

Devasher
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Devasher

As far as Scott “O Reilly” Reynolds Fab 4 is concerned….could you maybe just announce that the political Fab is hidden in the Pirates Cove? It could be like a treasure hunt, where Bucs fans can hear all about Scott’s views on politics and religion but only if they make the effort to go and find it. I do continue to find it interesting that Scott has expressed outrage over players kneeling due to it happening during NFL games (for which his argument would be that it is a business) then simultaneously wax poetic about his political thoughts or religion… Read more »

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

While it’s the players right to do as they please, you clearly aren’t seeing the business angle of this whole thing. The NFL ratings went down last year because of the kneeling, that’s a fact. When you own a business, would you take an employee who is just as good as another minus the ability of the other person to LOSE you money? That’s common sense and business. People seem to keep forgetting that’s the NFL is; a business. If your boss tells you to do something at your job, you do it or you get fired, that’s how it… Read more »

Devasher
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Devasher

Last I checked PR is a business too and the owner of this business is Hugh MacArthur not “O Reilly” Reynolds. I occasionally follow the podcast of JBF, which in my opinion is not nearly as good as the one PR puts out. However, I’ve heard them proclaim themselves the most followed Bucs pod and/or Bucs site in the past. If Scott’s political diatribes have turned off some readers who have found less political alternatives to listen to or read, isn’t that the same thing as the reduction of viewership of the NFL? Isn’t Scott then doing the same to… Read more »

Bucsfan1983
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Bucsfan1983

Mike Smith or not, Derwin James will make an impact from day 1. He’s a great teammate, vocal leader and a straight dog on the field.

FLBoy84
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FLBoy84

Mentioned yesterday that JPP is the closest player to Simeon Rice the Bucs have had since, well, Simeon Rice. Read the Giants SB Nation blog yesterday and most of their fans were glad to get rid of him, even though he friggin’ had 68 tackles and 8.5 sacks last year!!! They’ve obviously been spoiled with solid DE play over the years. Guess one man’s trash really is another man’s treasure. Juiced to see the revamped DL in action under Buckner and think it’ll free up our LB corp to make even more plays, as well as helping out the DB’s.

FLBoy84
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FLBoy84

Speaking of DB’s, our top four CB’s right now are Grimes, VH3, Smith and Elliott. Other than Breeland (who is prob out another 3-4 months), DRC and Breaux there’s not much left on the FA CB market at the moment. Love what Jason has done so far, but curious what kind of rabbit he’s going to pull out of his hat to address the position. Definitely think he’ll draft one next month, but hard to rely on rookie CB’s in year 1. Hoping Grimes’ health holds out all year.

Buc 1976
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Buc 1976

With most of FA signings on the Defensive side IMO the Bucs will draft offensive players mostly RB, G or tackle.

FLBoy84
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FLBoy84

Being that we still have multiple holes to fill, would be really hard imo to be disappointed if the Bucs took Nelson, Barkley, Chubb, James, Ward or even Vea if they don’t get an offer to their liking to trade down. As long as we come out of the first two rounds with starters to fill two of those holes , as well as JPP to show for the 3rd, I’m good.

Benjamin
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Benjamin

If Chubb and Nelson are gone then please please take Derwin James. I am not sold on Barkley plus i do not like the idea of taking a RB at 7. There are so many good rb’s in this years draft that we can get a very good one in rounds 2 or 3 and take the best non RB at 7. If we had our defense completely fixed then I’d be ok with taking Barkley but i feel taking James, Vea, or Ward in the first round and grabbing Michel, Nick Chubb, or Guice in the 2nd or 3rd… Read more »

Dude
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Dude

You must have not watched Barkley play much last year, I take it. He is the complete package. He’s fast, can cut on a dime, and possibly take it to the house on any carry. Then you add his size, stellar blocking skills, with good hands coming out of the backfield, he is a rare player, and better than Elliott, or Cook,the top drafted running backs from the previous two drafts. Imagine if he falls to us like Howard did last year? Our offense would be set for many years to come with the great young nucleus we would have… Read more »

Dy-nasty D
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Dy-nasty D

Love the football article.
Hate the a,m radio political rant.

sunshineben
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sunshineben

Scott..Did the bucs actually contact Gruden to be the bucs coach.? what was stated by him in Ca. was he never had an offer from the bucs,Gruden will always be a bucs hero so i’d like to know

Horse
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Horse

Scott; not one word about Kansas State Basketball team making it to the Elite Eight? Fab 4 ruined the Article for me, but I understand Scott is a serious Trump guy and I encourage him and others like him support and vote for Trump after all he is a good Christian, devoted husband,family man. He’s been a wonderful business man; after all, he loves to take other peoples money and ignore paying creditors. Best of all he builds, condo’s for the purpose of money laundering for the Russian and other mafia connected countries for decades. Some of you Trump supporters… Read more »

Dude
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Dude

“Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy needs to be answered.” —C. S. Lewis Scott did his due diligence, what about you? What, or who, do you stand up for? Or do you just troll around looking to cut people down for their belief’s that are different from yours? You do realize that he has the right to write about what he wants on ‘his’ website, right? If you don’t agree, then focus on the things in the article that you do like. Or you can just ignore it, or go away, and make like… Read more »

Devasher
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Devasher

Dearest Dude,

Last I checked, Scott “O Reilly” Reynolds was not the majority owner of Pewter Report but rather Hugh MacArthur was (maybe there’s been a change). So it’s Hugh’s site, not Scott’s (or at least it was).

Is Bill, er Scott’s goal to try to get more political discourse into this Bucs site? If so, is that something you, the Dude fully support? Do you want PR to be a place where fans of the Bucs can not only talk Bucs football and the draft but the latest thing Scott saw on Fox & Friends?

Horse
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Horse

How about he just uses it what is supposed to be about which is the Buccaneers as to sports.

Devasher
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Devasher

Isn’t it ironic Horse, that Scott’s writings lead to political discourse, the same discourse he would rather not have if it comes from players in the NFL and a viewpoint he doesn’t share? Republican or Democrat, I would hope Bucs fans can agree on one thing: the Glazer Babies’ general incompetence is largely to blame for the past 10+ years of pathetic play an zero playoff appearances for this team. So if the spoiled children of Malcolm, who’s greatest accomplishment in life is being born rich, strongly support something or someone, I’m happy to suggest they might be as wrong… Read more »

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

Always support ya horse and love ya, but you fail to realize the MAIN reason Trump won is because the Democrats marched the most corrupt incompetent opposition to ever hit the presidential trail. Even with the media at her back she couldn’t win. People just got tired of the previous 8 years. As for con Jobs, look at the last 8 years, now THAT is a con job.

e
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e

How much of that was Russian bot action, CG? This guy is T-R-A-S-H.

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

If you really think bots of facebook decided this election, then I got some beach front property in Pennsylvania for you e. The left is still searching for reasons they lost when they thought they had it in the bag. Killary was a fraud and exposed as such. THAT is why the dems lost. Weather you like him or not, and I don’t as a person, people were tired of the last 8 years of PC crap and socialistic handouts. And Hillary was four more years of that. Your “bots” didn’t influence a darn thing.

Devasher
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Devasher

Scott, are you trying to get more posts like cgmaster’s above? Just let us know if this is the type of conversation you think is appropriate for Hugh’s website.

Horse
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Horse

I hear you but you and I are not putting something out like Scott does.

TBAtlas
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TBAtlas

Ok, first off, let’s get the obvious out of the way first. The draft order at 7 you wrote about is mostly correct, but let’s be honest and say that with all the DLine signings there is basically no way we’re looking at Vea anymore. Our entire DLine is under contract for basically 3 years and it’s just a waste of resources to tie so much money and picks into one spot. The updated draft priority is probably Nelson -Chubb -Barkley -Trade -James -Ward. I’m even beginning to think that Chubb might be running 3rd at this point since next… Read more »

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

Strong Fab five Scott. For Fab one,I love the JPP signing. His stats last year are crazy for getting used to doing it with one hand. He is automatically the best DE on our roster day one. With the signings of Curry as well as our new run stuffers, Licht has done a good job working on the tranches. I give him props for that as I was one of those clamoring for him to do something after we missed out on Robert Quinn. I was never a big fan of Bennett coming back as he is 33 years old… Read more »

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

That wasn’t supposed to be a response to you JustaBuc sorry.

TBAtlas
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TBAtlas

Nah, it’s all good my man.

Brandonges
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Brandonges

I would enjoy Pewter Report a lot more if I wasn’t forced to know that Scott is a hardline GOPer. Unfortunately, he feels the need to remind us every couple months or so.

Buc 1976
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Buc 1976

WTH I thought this is a format for SPORTS NOT FING
POLITICS!!!

Devasher
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Devasher

Fun fact: Raymond James Stadium, that privately owned palace was built completely by publicly funded money. Our community taxes undoubtedly helped to enrich the Glazers.

“Glazer never contributed a dime to stadium construction. ”

http://www.sptimes.com/News/012501/news_pf/SuperBowl2001/We_paid_for_it_it_pai.shtml

You’re welcome Glazer Babies.

Charlie
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Charlie

I love the piece about calling out our toughness as a football team, obviously we have talked about the soft training camp and practices, but we also had some soft players. I think Jason Licht has improved that a bit this year so far as well. And I think the front office ranks the non QB players like this:
1: Nelson
2: Chubb
3: Barkley
4: Vea
5: James
And I wouldn’t be upset with any of those outcomes either.

chetthevette
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chetthevette

Exactly how I would pick em’.

TBAtlas
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TBAtlas

But why would both of you pick Vea over James? Our entire DLine is under contract for 3 years. Unless you think there’s some complete catastrophic failure in the DLine, but even then Vea only really makes sense if you think Unrein and Allen are going to blow chunks. If JPP and Curry blow chunks, then we’ll probably just look to the next draft for DEs. Vea isn’t really a McCoy clone if you wanted to replace him as well. Vea is, imo, more suited to play the NT role. Sure, he MIGHT have some pass rush in him. But… Read more »

24/7BucFan
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24/7BucFan

Great Fab 5 Scott. I’m ok with James if that’s who they choose. Obviously it depends on how the draft board falls. I love the moves Licht has made in FA. Cant wait for the draft! I hate politics in my sport’s but thanks for sticking up for one of our owners ( Bucs Related News) who had a political fund raiser in his home. That’s totally different than a player protesting during a televised game, during the national anthem at his JOB. Who protests at a job? If you do you should expect consequences in some form. That;s just… Read more »

Dman
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Dman

I like the toughness angle. And I initially wanted to resign Pamphile. Looks like with only a 1 year deal from the Titans, everybody else saw what Licht/Koetter saw. For continuity on the O-Line, I move Marpet back to the right side where he was a stud, let’s stop moving the guy around. Draft or bring someone in to compete with Sweezy on the left side. As #7, go for the highest rated guy we think is a Pro Bowler. If that’s Chubb, Nelson, Barkley or any of the other guys, pull the trigger. If the guys available are only… Read more »

24/7BucFan
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24/7BucFan

Fun Fact….. PFT: NFL stadiums have received an estimated $6.7 billion from taxpayers Posted by Michael David Smith on March 28, 2017, 9:23 AM EDT With Nevada kicking in $750 million to build the Raiders a new stadium, NFL teams have now received nearly $7 billion in tax money to build stadiums over the last two decades. According to an analysis from ESPN, the total price tag to taxpayers for building new stadiums and renovating old ones has been $6.7 billion since 1997. That includes 19 new stadiums and three major renovation projects. Not every team has received public money.… Read more »

Devasher
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Devasher

Oh, so you’re saying if you were a Bucs fan in the 80’s you had to like the Culverhouses? If you like Chick-Fil-A that means you believe in the same things the owners do? Is that so WinstonMVP? Tell me more about how I should live my life please. I appreciate your lessons. The Glazer Babies were some of the cheapest owners in the NFL the decade after Malcolm’s stroke. That is a fact, and it undoubtedly played a role in the team’s record thereafter. They made a bunch of poor decisions on coaches and GM’s and are rumored to… Read more »

Buc-in-Philly Fan
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Buc-in-Philly Fan

Devasher, you sound like a bittermen. Apparently capitalism is not your favorite. Would socialism be better for you? This way everyone else can work hard and we can take their money and redistribute it to those who would rather suck off the preverbeable tit.
Try not to hate so much on folks who have success no matter how they achieved it. It’s not a good look for you.

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

Don’t mind the snowflakes Buc-n-philly, they are still looking for safe places to vent.

Devasher
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Devasher

Great use of ad-hominem cgmaster . When you have nothing of merit to say, just call people who disagree with you names 😂

Don’t worry guys, I watched Fox News too back in the day before it became unbearable. I know y’alls dog whistles and tricks.

Devasher
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Devasher

Well Philly Fan,I have a bacherlors in economics, minored in business and have a higher net worth than most people, though I didn’t “earn” my wealth by being born into a rich family like our current very “successful” NFL owners. In fact, we’ve been winning so much since the Glazer Babies took the reigns from Malcolm (the guy who actually earned it and was a great owner) I’m tired of it 😂 But I love the straw man though. My point which you missed because of your own political filter and BS is that the public funded the stadium, the… Read more »

Hit55Fan
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I dont login much anymore these days, I normally read from the outside.. Love the PR website and recommend it to any bucs fan I meet. Ill just come out and say it.. Jamele Hill is a Racist B**CH. ESPN has totally lost me as a viewer because of how bad that channel has become. The color of a persons skin was ALWAYS a non issue when it came to sports when I was growing up.. that was my brother on the team weather he was red, white, black or brown. yet this person and company continue to push the… Read more »

24/7BucFan
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24/7BucFan

PFT: Eagles’ Michael Bennett indicted on felony charge of injuring elderly woman.

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

Yup the same guy some bucs fans were complaining we didn’t go after. The guy is a walking disaster.

EastEndBoy
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EastEndBoy

Good grief – I thought the last time (which was like the third time, I think) you said you’d stop the political posts Scott. But, okay: 1) “Trump? Don’t vote for him”…that completely misses the point that whether or not someone voted for him or didn’t, because they liked him or didn’t, nobody in America should be okay with the POTUS breaking the law (be that emoluments left right and center; prostitution, blackmail, obstruction of justice, etc.), repeatedly. I know your a huge Trumpie….I get that you love all of this red-meat America-first stuff he spouts out – but at… Read more »

e
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e

Well said, East.

Horse
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Horse

I agree with you, but it’s not going to stop Scott doing this; he believes he’s right and he has the right to believe it. I just wish he wouldn’t post on Pewter Report because I will just respond and I don’t like having to call out someone, especially when it has nothing to do with the Buccaneers and the game of football.

24/7BucFan
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24/7BucFan

Bucs fan since 1980 and i hated the previous owners because they were truly bad owners. The Glazers at least are trying hard to bring a good product. That don’t make them bad owners unless your just mad because of there political beliefs. Besides that I don’t know what your trying to say about telling you how to live your life. lol . I just said I’m sick of you whiners, hating, bashing fans. get a life. If you hate the Glazers because of there political beliefs that’s fine but it sounds like your whining about stuff that happen over… Read more »

chetthevette
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chetthevette

Every time I purchase anything money comes out of my pockets.
Extra 1 cent sales tax county wide Hillsborough County, so, yeah I pay for the stadium.
Also, people have been harsh on the Glazers ,not great football minds but think they try.
GO BUCS

Horse
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Horse

Chetthevette, agree with you. The Glazer’s have given alot to the community.

Devasher
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Devasher

Robert Kraft is friends with Trump right? Best owner in the game and it’s kinda easy to see, given the objective W-L record which could care less about BS arguments of “they try.” As I said, the children of Malcolm most certainly weren’t trying when they cheaped out on the roster for almost 10 years after his stroke. How do you ignore the lack of spending for years? Firing the SB winning coach for a DB coach only to come back to him begging a decade later? One great thing about sports is that wins and losses don’t care about… Read more »

buccaneerNW
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buccaneerNW

I don’t care about what Jemele Hill says about hypocrisy. But she’s been right in calling Trump a white supremacist. When you fail to vigorously condemn those torch-wielding fascist assclown white supremacists in Charlottesville, you condone it… which makes you a sympathizer, which effectively makes you a white supremacist.

Ed Glazer holding a fundraiser for Trump makes me hate this ownership family even more. Foueck these goddamn planet destroyers.

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

You mean like Obama failed to condemn black lives matters as they rolled over people and just generaly blew stuff up and robbed stors? Ahh the hypocrisy.

buccaneerNW
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buccaneerNW

Please identify instances where BLM “rolled over people and just generally blew stuff up and robbed stors [sic].” Because, as far as I know, that never actually happened and it’s another made up diversion to avoid dealing with the actual fascist assclown, racist, narcissist, lying sack of shit, pile of crap, ignoramus, clueless unhinged manbaby who currently resides in the WH. Get a fouecking clue dude.

You’re probably getting your news from InfoWars with that paragon of truth and virtue, Alex Jones.

chetthevette
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chetthevette

Good article Scott, right up until you started the political stuff. I am way over Trump and his band of pirates. Even though it’s hard to keep up when he keeps on making them walk the plank. As far as the Glazers throwing Trump a party, why the hell not? If some one gave me a huge ass tax break I throw him a party too. The Glazer’s and Trump have a lot in common. Dubious slum lords for fathers embolden with Daddies money. All great fortunes are usually accompanied by a great crime. At this point I feel quite… Read more »

BKNYfootballhead
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BKNYfootballhead

Fab 4 is pure garbage. The ESPN article is pure garbage. Scott’s word is pure garbage.

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

And yet here you are soaking it all up like. I find it funny that people bitch about something they don’t have to read.

flarick
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flarick

Excellent piece on James and generally a real eye opener as to why the Bucs might pick him at #7, if “North Carolina State defensive end Bradley Chubb, Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson or Penn State running back Saquon Barkley” are all off the board by then. The film reveals that nearly every thing written about Derwin James is true and he could very well combine with Justin Evans to form the basis for a very strong secondary. Watching the film, however, did reveal one concerning tendency. While James tackles well against the run game, squaring up, lowering his shoulder,… Read more »

Bucsfan1983
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Bucsfan1983

@devasher No where did I say draft him based on his combine performance. You’re putting words into people’s mouths. I brought up the combined performance to show you that his burst from freshman year is finally back. That is all. You draft him based on his college career. You continue to blame not being 100% and not having that burst back during the 2017 season, as a reason to not draft him. And that is lazy. You say you are an FSU fan, well you damn know the talent he is. For whatever you just don’t like the pick, you… Read more »

Devasher
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Devasher

No, I continue to point to Derwin James lack of game changing plays, he’s not shown any history of turnovers compared to Mathieu, Taylor et al. And yes give me Quentin Nelson 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. Dude is a brawler. FSU has not been significantly altered either when Derwin James was on the field 10-3 (15), 6-6 (17, James didn’t play the bowl game), or when he missed the majority of the 10-3 (16) season. Shluldn’t his college career matter when trying to project a strong safety at pick 7? I’m a FSU fan. not a… Read more »

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

Well you seem to be the only one who sees Derwin that way, literally., I’ll take my eyes and the eyes of the 100’s of scouts who would put him in the top ten over your eyes. And no those aren’t rose colored glasses, those are facts. And yet you still don’t mention James was the highest rated cover saftey last year. You keep skipping over that fact. He has more interceptions coming out than Jalen Ramsey did as a corner, but I”m assuming you probably thought Ramsey didn’t have the ball skills to play in the pros either right?

Devasher
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Devasher

Someone needs to give you a statue of a strawman with your name on it cgmaster. If Derwin James is so clearly this top 5 player and generational SS (which one would need to be to be taken at 7) then why is he only being hyped up as a top 10 pick only after the combine? Why was FSU’s defense no worse for wear when they played the Independence Bowl without him, or 2016 without him? Number 1, Ramsey and James have the same amount of int’s and sacks at FSU (look it up), Ramsey was a consensus all-american… Read more »

drdneast
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I don’t mind a political discussion with my sports, as long as it is germaine. In this case, I believe Cook was right to touch on the subject since the owners of the Bucs were attacked by this woman for being hypocrites. I certainly am no fan of Trump, quite the contrary. I believe he is leaving a terrible stain and smell in the White House which will take time to remove. Hopefully that will happen sooner than later if the Mueller Investigation can prove what many of us suspect. What the Hill article showed me proves the old adage,… Read more »

drdneast
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drdneast

Sorry about the few typos and misspellings in the above post but for some reason I can’t type on this page because it sticks or bogs down. Does this happen to anyone else of am I just getting picked on. After reading a few more posts though I had to continue on with the political roundtable. Back in the 70s I was in college when Watergate came out and came home every afternoon to watch the hearings. I actually voted for Nixon, my first vote in an election. but it became apparent to me after a period of time this… Read more »

Buc-in-Philly Fan
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Buc-in-Philly Fan

drdneast, I too have issues with the site. It cuts out and refreshes frequently. I appreciate your view point though I disagree politically. I voted for Trump because at the time I was tired of the same old politics and did not trust HC. It turns out Trump is unfit as Commnadet and Chief but do to his being in the position our Country will benefit due to none of us accepting corruption and same old politics from either side. Most of us reside some where in the middle with leanings swayed a little more right or left. I am… Read more »

skipper
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skipper

Scott, not understanding why you want to get into politics on your sports forum. You enjoy trying to divide your readers? This should be a forum where right and left can come together to discuss football and forget about politics.

scubog
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scubog

Please stick to football!!!!! I’m just over all of this political crap with it’s completely biased viewpoints and total intolerance of opposing opinions.

Will
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Will

The trenches were address during the free agency period. I’m going with James if Chubb or Berkeley is off the board.James is really going to help the secondary out ALOT!!!!! If we don’t get him remember I said this, we going to miss out on one of the best Safties that ever played the game.

Devasher
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Devasher

@cgmaster27 @bucsfan1983 You’re noles right and follow the team? Do you remember when Jacob Pugh called out the lack of leadership for the awful 2-5 start to the season right, specifically calling out players for looking forward to the draft? But Derwin James is a great leader? What am I missing here guys?

https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-noles/2017/10/30/16573060/jacob-pugh-leadership-2017-team-compares-fsu-season-nightmare-cites-lack-of-player-leadership

Bmore.Buc
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Bmore.Buc

Probably one of the best Fab’s I’ve read in a while, despite Fab 4. I believe Scott thoroughly missed the point Miss Hill was trying to make, but I don’t even want to get into that.

Plain ad simple, the closest thing I wanna see on my favorite Bucs site that has any resemblance to a political party, is NFC vs AFC

herryjames
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herryjames

Last year, the rating was down due to some major mistakes. It is of the utmost priority of an employee to do what is ordered. Well, still we have to stick to the football instead of involving in the politics. But opinions are always welcome, as i loved to read different views. 🙂

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