FAB 4. The Bucs Who Benefit The Most From Licht’s Return

The Glazers brought back general manager Jason Licht for one more year to run the Bucs’ ship in 2019. Not only is that beneficial for Licht and the rest of Tampa Bay’s front office and scouting staff, it also benefits several of the players that Licht had a hand in bringing aboard over the years.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and GM Jason Licht - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and GM Jason Licht – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

The Big Takeaway
Here is a list of a dozen Buccaneers whose fortunes in Tampa Bay could have been altered greatly in 2019 if Licht hadn’t been retained as the team’s general manager.

QB Jameis Winston
Winston was Licht’s first-round pick in 2015 and their fate in Tampa Bay beyond 2019 is intertwined. Winston did a good job of cutting down the turnovers after returning from his benching to throw 13 touchdowns with just four interceptions over the last five games, and if that trend continues the Bucs will put themselves in position to win more games in 2019. Licht has already declared that Winston will be the starter.

CB Vernon Hargreaves III
Hargreaves was Licht’s first-round pick in 2016 and hasn’t lived up to his draft billing. Hargreaves has seen the last two seasons end prematurely due to injury, including after Week 1 this past season. Hargreaves’ rookie contract is fully guaranteed, so it’s not like he would be cut, but Licht will give Hargreaves every chance to earn a roster spot this season. If he plays like he did last summer and stays healthy, Hargreaves will earn it.

Bucs GM Jason Licht and DT Beau Allen - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs GM Jason Licht and DT Beau Allen – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

DT Beau Allen
Allen got paid $5 million and produced just 20 tackles from the nose tackle position, and is set to earn $5 million more in 2019. That might seem a little rich for a backup nose tackle who lost his starting spot to Vita Vea, but if the Bucs part ways with Gerald McCoy this offseason due to salary cap reasons, Licht might want Allen around for his experience and leadership. Besides Vea has the talent to move to three technique and Allen could re-emerge as the starting nose tackle for 2019. Licht loves Allen’s toughness and attitude.

DE Noah Spence
Spence had a decent, injury-marred rookie year, but missed most of 2017 with a recurring shoulder injury that was finally fixed with surgery. Spence added 20 pounds of size this past year, but struggled during the preseason and rarely saw much playing time under new defensive line coach Brentson Buckner. Speedy edge rushers are hard to find, and Spence, a former second-round pick in 2016, will get the benefit of another training camp to try to turn the corner in his development.

LT Donovan Smith
Smith was a second-round pick by Licht in 2015 and the general manager believes he still hasn’t reached his full potential. While some fans want Smith gone in 2019 that’s not going to happen. Look for Smith to get the franchise tag for one year – or perhaps even a long-term contract extension from Licht. Whether or not that’s a wise move will be determined down the road, but Smith stays in Tampa Bay.

Bucs CB Ryan Smith
Bucs CB Ryan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

CB Ryan Smith
Smith didn’t receive as much playing time this year as he did last season, but he did play better in coverage while he made 38 tackles, tied his career high with five passes defensed, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery and had his first career interception. Smith isn’t an ideal candidate to start, but he has developed well on defense as a reserve and is still a special teams star. Licht loves his toughness, speed and special teams ability.

K Cairo Santos
Santos ended the season strong, making six of his last seven field goals and all four of his extra point attempts, including perfect games against Atlanta and Baltimore down the stretch. Santos wound up making 9-of-12 field goals in seven games with Tampa Bay and deserves the chance to come back and compete for the starting job in 2019. Licht has been a big fan of Santos for years and would have signed him last year if he were healthy. Look for him to get a contract extension.

TE Cameron Brate
Brate had a down year with 30 catches for 289 yards, but still managed to catch six touchdowns. He played hurt all year, which affected his performance, and lost some targets to the more talented O.J. Howard, but Brate is one of Licht’s favorite finds. That’s helpful because Brate might be viewed as an expendable luxury at $7 million in the eyes of another general manager. Instead, Licht sees Brate’s value as one of Winston’s most trusted receivers and will likely keep him around in 2019.

Bucs WR Adam Humphries
Bucs WR Adam Humphries – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

WR Adam Humphries
Humphries was one of Licht’s undrafted free agent finds in 2015 and was pleased to see him produce a career year with 76 catches for 815 yards and five touchdowns. Licht won’t break the bank to keep the pending free agent in Tampa Bay, but give him a fair deal to remain Winston’s trusted slot receiver. Licht loves Humphries’ tenacity, professionalism and team-first attitude.

TE Alan Cross
Cross may be viewed as expendable by most coaches or general managers. He’s a backup H-back/fullback and special teamer. But Cross is ultra-competitive and adored by his teammates. Nicknamed “Honcho,” Cross is one of the “glue guys” in the locker room that will do whatever the team asks him to do. He’s a better athlete than you think, and Licht loves his toughness and versatility.

C Ryan Jensen
Jensen isn’t going anywhere due to the fact that his $10 million salary is guaranteed in 2019. But the reality is that despite being the highest-paid center in the league, Jensen didn’t play like, committing a team-high 11 penalties, including five holding calls and four personal fouls. That could be seen as a red flag and prompt other general managers to draft a center to challenge Jensen. But Licht sees the toughness and tenacity Jensen brings to the offensive line and loves it, yet he must demand better technique from him in 2019.

The FABulous Ending
Licht’s presence as general manager will play a big role in all of these players returning for training camp in 2019. Whether these Buccaneers remain in Tampa Bay past this year will depend on how they perform in the coming season, and if Licht is still at the helm in 2020.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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BUC-ASS-BOB

I think the free agents currently on the roster and future free agents are waiting to see who they get as a coach makes a big difference if they get a good coach or just another follow the orders coach also it doesn’t help that Desean is out there bad-mouthing Winston potential receivers are going to listen to him and that could hurt them getting any more receivers out of free agency.

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BucRy

I know a lot of people give you a hard time bucassbob but I know you just want the bucs to win too like the rest of us.

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dbenn2012

Luckily FA doesn’t start until March so it should be settled (of course not counting the side deals). Bucs should hold out on releasing DJack until the last minute when they need his salary or slot and hope someone is willing to pickup his contract for a 7th round pick – though doubtful. Sure he’s hoping it is sooner so he has more interest. Anyone would be nuts to sign him to half his salary, speed regardless. Wanted one WR who is a known cancer, selfish, who can’t run a consistent route despite years in the league. Rate this item:Thumb… Read more »

GrayBalls

BUC-ASS-BOB, you make a valid point there. But, we don’t need any more WR’s right now, as long as they extend Humphries. So, valid but pointless. Awesome job. That is not an easy thing to accomplish

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cgmaster27

Wow and did anyone see what Grimes said on his wife’s show?! This organization just lets player do what the fuck they want. Koetter was soft as tissue and let players run all over him. He didnt want to shadow AB because he wasnt paid like someone who does?! Jesus what a shit show. We have players like him and mesean and people wonder why we only won 5 games. Jpp called it, there is some real fake ass players in this team. Problem is I dont think licht can see it. I mean why have mesean and Grimes punk… Read more »

Buc stops here

I think you have to be very careful about what Grimes says. Also, it really does not matter what he says because he is old and he is out in Tampa. They thought they could get one more year out of him – and the could not. He is a free agent now and he won’t be resigned by Tampa – or anyone else. That show was his last chance to say something and he just crapped on everyone. It is what he and his wife did in Miami as well. Didn’t you see what she said on her show… Read more »

cgmaster27

It does matter what he said. It shows a massive lack of accountability on this team. Yes him and his wife are known to be clowns about stuff like this, but this begs to a much deeper issue on this organization. Thay makes 2 highly paid players asked to do something and flat out said no. There is absolutely something to take away from this.

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Buc stops here

So you are saying you trust what he says about Miami and Tampa? You are very trusting then for a guy who complains a lot (and his wife) about how unprofessional each organization is. You can read into it what you like – I expected this considering what happened in Miami previously.

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Buc stops here

By the way, I don’t disagree about what JPP said. I just think both Grimes are completely classless and it is hard to trust them.

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cgmaster27

Yes actually I do trust it 100% hes saying he didn’t play because of his contract, he has zero reason to lie about that. Hes making himself look bad so why even say that? Hes talking some crap on the coaching staff, but also saying why he didnt want to shadow brown. There is no reason for him to lie about that. Zero. You saw how koetter tip toed around mesean and you dont thonk this happened? I’m not reading into anything, I’m literally reading his words no sub context. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet. Please… Read more »

cgmaster27

I agree they are classless, but this is part of a bigger problem, but as you said, he won’t be around anymore so that’s good. But there was clearly a disconnect between players and coaches last year

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Buc stops here

Yes, that I can agree with – but that disconnect I think was known already. Probably part of the reason Koetter was fired.

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BucRy

I don’t see why it’s hard to trust what grimes has said about the bucs. Our team hasn’t been in the playoffs for over a decade now so is it really hard to believe that there might be some major issues that the team keeps away from the public?

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Naplesfan

Give us a freaking break, cg – you are spouting nonsense.

In his several seasons with the team, Grimes never made one negative comment about the Bucs, the coaches, his fellow players, the GM, or the owners. Now, on his way out the door, as virtually everybody knows he is retiring this year, he says some stuff, and you have got your teeny tiny panties in a massive knot.

What a snowflake you are!

SMH squared.

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76Buc

I agree Grimes is an ass wipe, but he said something telling that I think people are missing. The DC Smith could not match his people to his scheme.

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BucRy

I did see what grimes said..I’m sure there’s some truth to what he said but what’s also true is that grimes played like trash this year. Didn’t get paid enough to cover top receivers? Lol I’m glad he’s leaving along with his wife, he couldn’t cover top receivers anymore. Also, don’t be surprised to hear more about the bucs once Desean Jackson is moved..I think he’s also going to say something about the bucs too.

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FLBoy84

While not a fan of Grimes’ attitude or some of the decisions he evidently made, have no problem with guys speaking out honestly. Prefer it actually if it sheds light on issues that are happening within the team or locker room. Am on the “OK with Licht for 2019” side, but his comment that they “have a great locker room” in his end-of-the-year interview with Casey Phillips rang a bit strange to me. Especially considering the JPP comments and what seems to be a brewing issue with GMC,Grimes’ comments, as well as Jackson’s situation which we’ll surely hear more about.… Read more »

Naplesfan

In what universe do head coaches control what player say?

Not in the real universe.

Turn that around … how can Jason Licht allow Grimes to say such stuff?

Or, how can the Baby Glazers allow Grimes to say such stuff.

You guys are just so wrapped up in your stupid Koetter hate/Winston love that you spout nonsense nonstop.

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tog

It’s not Lichts fault: “Sometimes it was Licht drafting promising players without the coaches seeing eye-to-eye on talent and having a specific plan for developing those players, other times it was the assistant coaches not effectively communicating what traits they favored in players, which led to a few unfortunate personnel moves.”

What’s a GM to do?

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e

My issue with Arians is that it looks good on paper, but is he going to come back with real fire with his age and health? I’m a Canes fan and watch Mark Richt come from Georgia and Canes fans thought this was the answer. He quit suddenly last week and shocked everyone. I’d go after a guy like Brent Venables, Clemson DC. Culture changer, fiery, best college DC in the country, young enough, but experienced. Tripling his salary may get him to move. I know everyone is in love with Arians, but I’m not so sure about the timing.… Read more »

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I would hope that Licht and Arians have a backup plan because even if they hire him, they have to have someone in the wings to take over. If Arians is hired the most Tampa will get is three years, and that is if they are lucky. It is a short term solution at best. I would not be surprised they talk and he decides not to re-enter the NFL. It is a very hard job and he is past retirement age. There are very few coaches in their late 60s who are successful because of the amount of work… Read more »

FLBoy84

Solid point, though I’d take 3 years of a proven 2-time coach of the year over an unknown with the current state of the team. Would seem to be a given that an Asst HC would be added who could take the reins if anything were to arise, and would seem to be a perfect situation to grab a guy like Beinemy or Richard as that guy to get a couple years of tutelage under a guy like Arians. Kitchens seems like he’d be a logical choice too if he was allowed to interview, maybe with the Asst HC title… Read more »

e

Kitchens and Bienemy are both HC candidates themselves. Are the Glazers really going to pay full salaries for two HCs?

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76Buc

Where are you guy pups getting the 3 year number? I know guys in their 80’s and 90’s that work 70 hour weeks.

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FLBoy84

Being that the Glazers have fired multiple coaches over the last 10 years with years remaining on their contracts, and still paid them NOT to coach the team, yes I think they’d pay whatever’s needed for the right coaches to get them back to relevancy.

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“Licht needs to go overboard on several more positions, including running back, linebacker, offensive line, quarterback and in the secondary in 2019 and continue to stockpile talent by not believing in the health and ability of some of the current Buccaneers. By duplicating what he did with the defensive line last offseason, the Bucs will only be deeper, more talented and more competitive in 2019.” While I don’t disagree at all with this, it also shows the shortfalls of what Licht has done. He threw everything he had at the defensive line and it did improve this year. He won’t… Read more »

76Buc

I just think he focused too much on offense in the early drafts.

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BrianDorry55

I will be furious if we give Donovan Smith any kind of long term contract or the franchise tag. He’s terrible. He’s not a Top 15 left tackle. Teams that lost their starting tackle signed guys off the street mid season that played better than Donovan Smith. If they want to give him a prove it deal of like $8 million to play right tackle and move on from Demar who has lost two steps, I’d be on board with that. He’s not a starting left tackle and considering his laziness and inconsistency, I’d prefer just move on from him… Read more »

BucWild02

You know what they say…

Your best ability is your avail-ability. Smith has started every game since drafted.

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BucRy

great, he started all games and all that showed us is that he can’t be an elite tackle. Let him walk.

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BucWild02

Elite or bust, huh? There’s plenty of room on this team for a good player who is also a good teammate. Let’s hope the Bucs fix the real problems…RG, RT, RB on offense and DT, DE on defense.

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BucRy

LT is a real problem..Donovan smith can stay healthy but he is not a good LT..let him walk.

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Darin

Elite or bust when you are talking about elite money yes. Salary cap league buddy. I’d be shocked if Smith is re-signed. He isnt in the top half of LTs yet thinks and says he is. Thats the attitude we need to rid. A real head coach will come in here and clean this mess up. Thats why the Glazers will finally focus on finding a HC with proven winning head coaching experience. They went after 2 proven guys last offseason and missed so they stuck with Dirk. Sucks for us. The guy hasnt a clue on what makes a… Read more »

BucWild02

I understand it’s a salary cap league. Nate Solder went to the Giants last year in free agency. No pro bowls in his career. Average left tackle. 15.5m per(62m/4yrs). Donovan Smith earned 1.5m last year. Smith is gonna get paid and there isn’t a rookie in the draft that will be more prepared than Smith will be. Will earning more money make him better? No, but it won’t make him worse either. He is serviceable.

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BrianDorry55

And Nate Solder had a better season this year than Donovan Smith has ever had. Donovan Smith isn’t elite, he isn’t good, he isn’t solid. He’s BAD.

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BucRy

I hope we let Donovan smith walk..he seems like the kind of guy who would get paid and check out.

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BucWild02

Its a strong draft for defense, not offense and definitely not OT. That’s part of the reason the price tag for Smith is so high. It’s hard to find good tackles, much less elite ones. Give him a franchise tag or sign him to a reasonable deal with incentives. BPA at #5 and #39 is going to be a defensive player this year. Let’s hope the Bucs don’t fumble that fact.

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BucRy

I’d much rather go with a franchise tag if we have to, I just don’t think Donovan Smith is the guy I want at LT..I’d be ok if he’d try out at rt maybe but after watching Smith this year I am more than ready to move on from him if we have to.

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BucWild02

Move on from him to who? A rookie? Someone else’s player that wasn’t retained?

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BucRy

Anyone not named donovan smith? I’ve seen enough of the guy lol..Draft someone..sign someone..anything but keeping Smith at LT again is a mistake.

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BucWild02

Anthony Costonzo in Indianapolis makes about 11m/year. Donovan Smith is better and younger. I would put Lewan, Bahktiari, Tyron Smith, Okung, and Peters in the top 5. If the Bucs aren’t landing one of those guys, its better to stick with Smith IMO.

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yohohoandabottleofrum

Jason Licht needs to sit down with the players individually and find out if they are here just to draw a paycheck or are they here to win. I think most of us can guess which ones are which. The players who just want a check or glory or whatever if its not winning the super bowl then they need to be traded for whatever we can get for them.

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BucWild02

Bullshit. That’s what tape and metrics are for. I wouldn’t ask any of them anything. He knows what plays were called and what the players responsibilities were on the play for every play of the entire season. If the players keep making the same mistakes, or are getting pushed over, then they got to go. Stop being a fan of McCoy’s “get off” and start holding him accountable to PERFORMANCE. He’s a nice guy, and Im sure we would all love to be friends with him, but as a dominating defensive leader, he has been crap for a decade. Rate… Read more »

yohohoandabottleofrum

Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed LOL I am not on anyone’s bandwagon. I want the Bucs to win another super bowl bandwagon. It was reported earlier that Desean Jackson doesnt want to be in Tampa anymore so trade him and get a draft pick. Grimes needs to go and Im sorry but Winston is running for his life half the time because of OLAY smith. There are players who need to be cut there are some who could be traded for draft picks is all I was saying above. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00… Read more »

BucWild02

Didn’t mean to come off as grumpy. I just don’t think a one-on-one sit down conversation with each player to gauge the level of love for the game matters as much as on field performance.

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yohohoandabottleofrum

no problem…I want the bucs to win too….Maybe he doesnt need to gauge their love for the game but it would be nice to have a bunch of players who love playing the game and not just a bunch who wanna grab a paycheck. I would like to see some trades. Your right about the draft not being very strong on Tackles, but I dont think the draft list is complete yet, their are still a bunch of players trying to decide if they are going pro. Perhaps smith would improve under a better line coach. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb… Read more »

Winston DOESNT run. It’s a huge part of the problem. He’s too afraid of getting hurt, the shoulder last year and a hit low has made him very tentative. The Cowboys game he had all day rolled to his right with 4 yards right in front of him and got strip sacked from behind and returned for a TD. Look at his good games… he uses his legs. It’s just not as often as it needs to be.

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This just came out on Yahoo! Sports. They listed all the coaches the teams are looking at and have interviews set up. I don’t think the Bucs list is complete as Pewter Report has some other names, but this is what they had on three coaches: Tampa Bay Buccaneers It’s hard to get ahead in the NFL when you switch head coaches so quickly. The Buccaneers’ next head coach will be their sixth in the last decade. Eric Bieniemy: The Buccaneers are the fourth of four teams Bieniemy is interviewing with; he declined the chance to meet with the Cardinals.… Read more »

BucWild02

I know Arians and his entire former coaching staff seems to make sense to the color-by-numbers crowd considering the connection between Licht and all of them, but isn’t this flawed thinking? First of all, why are they all available? Arians is one foot in the grave and had to step away for health reasons a few years ago. Everyone else was fired because of their respective results. Getting that band back together seems desperate and lazy. Before the “Buckner For DC” crowd gets their panties in a bunch, no, he hasn’t been fired. He wasn’t a difference maker though. JPP… Read more »

yohohoandabottleofrum

sorry to say Schiano had his chance and got fired. Tony Dungy wasnt really a disciplinarian and it was his TEAM that won the super bowl.

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BucWild02

Tony Dungy was absolutely a disciplinarian.

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BucWild02

And as a Bucs fan, shame on you to give Gruden’s championship to Dungy. Malcolm Glazer and Rich McKay gave two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks, and a suitcase filled with 8m to secure Gruden’s services from Oakland. Gruden reshaped the team. He brought in Pittman, Jurevicious, Dudley, Oben, Dilger, Jenkins, Spires and McCardell while letting key players leave, like Warrick Dunn and Donnie Abraham. Monte Kiffin obviously remained under contract and called the defense. Related: It would be nice if Monken could stay and run the offense while a defensive minded coach could come in and reshape… Read more »

yohohoandabottleofrum

what about Sapp brooks and company on D, they didnt have anything to do with winning that super bowl? LOL Tony built that D. He also went to the Colts and won a super bowl there. Gruden never repeated. Yes Gruden did a few things on offense but the Bucs payed a very heavy price for him and the offense did not win the super bowl it was the Defense that was already on the team before that trade that won.

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BucWild02

Rich McKay built that D. Sapp was drafted when Sam Wyche was the coach.

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BucWild02

Brooks and Sapp drafted in 1995. Lynch in 1993. Dungy named the coach in 1996.

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BucWild02

Also, Dungy inherited Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, and Edgerin James in 2002 when he took over for the Colts. Ultimately he lost in the first round of the playoffs(as usual for Dungy).

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yohohoandabottleofrum

my bad…it was Rich Mckay, Monte Kiffin, Tony Dungy that built most of the defense on the winning super bowl team. Im not sure but it was probably Mckay who signed offensive FA’s and drafted some in 1996, and yes your right about Sapp and Brooks being drafted before Dungy. But Gruden inherited a very good defense and he might of tweaked the offense but it was the defense that won the game. Dexter Jackson was the Super bowl MVP. good chatting with you but gotta go away for awhile. Catch you some other day Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit… Read more »

BucWild02

I like Dungy a lot too. He was a disciplinarian, even if he was soft spoken. Their toes weren’t on the line, but their jobs were if they were late to meetings or practice, fell asleep during meetings, or didn’t perform. He didn’t yell like Schiano, because he didn’t have to. He commanded respect. Gruden also commanded respect.

Good conversation. Pick it up again some other article.

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Diehard Astheycome

Donnie Abraham was already gone. Ronde and Brian Kelly were our starting CBS. We had Brad Johnson already and Keyshawn plus the entire defense n Monte Kiffin who was the foundation to that team. It took them until November to get the offense even going.He dumped Brad Johnson but was the key to TB offense. Underrated player – made Pro Bowls with Minnesota and Washington- was beating us 13-0 in 99! vs Wash.. Brad Johnson was accurate and professional…with the Jeff Garcia exception, he tried thinking he could win with any QB ever. Desperate to prove he’s the ultimate “… Read more »

76Buc

You want a Schiano clone?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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BucWild02

I don’t know about a clone of Greg Schiano or even Greg Schiano himself, but I know one thing: Under Raheem Morris, Lovie Smith, and Dirk Diggler the players seem to be having too much fun losing and collecting a paycheck. As a fan, that has SUCKED. So if that means that “Mr. Apology” GMC and other fun guys need to get their toes on the line to win football games, then put their damn toes on the line.

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76Buc

Agree.

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SenileSenior

Whatever I think of Grimes as a professional I think there is something to what he has said. I take what JPP has said even more so because of the ethic he has displayed. He definitely practises what he preaches. Koetter was fired because he was not a successful NFL head coach. He failed to instill a winning culture. This showed up in his coaching assistants’ failures. He should have replaced Mike Smith, Nate Kaczor, George Warhop and Brett Maxie during the off season last year. Koetter needed to be tougher and not accept the status quo after the 2017… Read more »

compewterpirate

$14 million for Donovan Smith??? You must be kidding me! He is among the bottom 15 in the league at LT, not top 15. I would let him walk. In my opinion Smith is emblematic of the mediocrity that has been allowed to flourish in this organization for way too long. Let some other under achieving franchise be duped into overpaying for him, but this time not us. Licht also failed miserably, in my opinion, to renegotiate the final year of Jameis’s contract. In light of his off-field issues and inconsistent play when he came back as a starter, Licht… Read more »

BucWild02

Just an FYI…The Bucs couldn’t renegotiate Winston’s contract for less money. Licht had NO LEVERAGE. They picked up the 5th year option in March of 2018. The only way to renegotiate any guaranteed contract is to offer a new one. Jameis would have to agree to it also. So unless the team is extending Winston to a long term deal, you just let this one play out and then NEXT YEAR, you can negotiate based on market value and past performance.

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dbenn2012

Exactly right as to Winston, the deal was made on his rookie contract and the only decision was whether to pick it up. Arguably, you could have traded him, but you open negotiations you have to extend him which I doubt either side wants at this point. Question – McCoy’s salary is not guaranteed and doubtful he gets 13 million salary at this age from anyone. Once the new HC evaluates the roster and determines if he still has the ability to be a serviceable starter or rotational starter, you could easily restructure an amount he would accept into a… Read more »

Deón Lester

Holdout wanting money you’ve earned now you’re a locker room problem. That’s complete BS! I would put money on him being a great teammate. The Bucs LOVE players that won’t cause a ruckus the ones that won’t speak up when grimes is crying cus his old ass isn’t getting more money to do his job, or confront a fat ass DT who jumps offsides to lose a game then laugh about it. Unlike the cancerous players you named Bell knows what it’s like to win this isn’t a claim that he’s perfect to you losers but our offense would be… Read more »

BucWild02

When Leveon Bell signs with a team, they will be getting a player who won’t have the same line or system he had in Pittsburgh and who hasn’t taken a hit or handoff in almost two years for 17m/year. HARD PASS. That’s a very risky situation that sets the franchise back 5 years if he’s a chump.

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EastEndBoy

Here’s your 10-point offseason plan Jason: 1) Get Arians 2) we have the 5th overall pick…solving the Donovan Smith issue is not hard, let him go as a FA and select whichever of Little or Williams you prefer. 3) not paying Smith $14m, means we can keep GMC for $13m and can release some cap space on all of the backup DTs we have. While GMC is 31, his production dwarfs that of Smith as LT and Unrein ($4m cap saved), Allen ($5m cap saved), and Gholston ($4m cap saved) as DLs. Would you rather have GMC (1 year removed… Read more »

mjmoody

Some good thought out stuff in your list. Really like #9. Guy had limited carries behind a poor line and needs some time to work on his hands.

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BucWild02

I agree with point #7. The rest…not so much. I won’t harp on any of your points except one…

GMC has never been a dominant player. Name ONE game that his performance was the key to the contest. He’s been in Tampa for 8 years and has ZERO signature plays. None. He will look great in a Bills uniform. Buh-Bye.

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EastEndBoy

A couple thoughts: 1) if we get rid of GMC, we still need to find a replacement- is that going to be Beau Allen..I’d rather have McCoy. If it’s going to be in the draft, then solving both CB and OL (two areas I consider much more worrying) becomes quite difficult. Is there a better DT in FA that we should try to lure to town? 2) saving the $13m doesn’t matter if we’re under the cap. Unless Licht completely abandons his tendency, we aren’t going to spend big in FA. So, cutting McCoy would only make sense if we… Read more »

BucWild02

The last time McCoy played in all 16 games was 2013. His sack numbers have fallen every year since he got 9.5 in 2013. The last 2 years he has had 6.0 sacks. The excuse was always that he didn’t have any help. He was facing constant double teams and triple teams supposedly. Last year the Bucs added Vea, Nassib, and JPP of course. GMC results? Worse than the previous year…same number of sacks(6.0) but less tackles for a loss(from 13 to 6) or tackles in general(47 to 28). He wasn’t the best lineman on his own team, much less… Read more »

EastEndBoy

I understand the Belichick approach – but what you’re forgetting is that Bill lines up replacements before he moves on from a guy. Even if McCoy is aging, if we cut him, who is going to play DT better? Is Lining up Vea and Allen better than Vea and GMC? I don’t think so, and since cap has never been an issue for Licht (as he’s allergic to FA spending), how would cutting McCoy make us better? Maybe there’s a point to be made that we should start planning now to cut McCoy next year…take this year and look for… Read more »

Jordan Chavez

I am all in on the Arians hire, especially if he brings Bowles and Kitchens with him to run the defense and offense respectively. I saw Arians say that he would not be calling plays if he comes back and that makes it even more important to get a guy like Kitchens to come with him. Also, this is just a random idea I have not sure if its actually plausible or not. But I think it’s a real possibility that another team offers Humphries 4 years at about the 7-8 million/year mark where we may only willing to go… Read more »

BucRy

Fitzgerald has said he wants to finish out with cardinals.

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Buc76

This Grimes article is all on Licht. You signed him, you kept him. If Licht doesnt get a real coach in here like Arians say goodbye to attendance next year. I am waiting Licht. I can spend 2500 dollars a lot of other ways.

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BucWild02

Isn’t Grimes on Smith and Koetter? Licht signed him at the coaches urging.

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DrT1066

Director of player personnel Spytek and director of scouting Biehl should be rewarded for the job they have been doing: Getting a Blood Angel done to them. Then drawn and quartered and fed to the sharks.
After all we have had all of those fabulous high draft picks like Aguayo and Jones II and the legion of others too long to list. Major reason for ultra lousy performances- Yep.
You might actually fill RJ to watch.

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DrT1066

Whoops! In my excitement it is not Blood Angel but Blood Eagle.

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Wright

Assuming we don’t trade down, you want to waste 2 of our 7 picks on a QB and RB? In this weak QB draft? That is the biggest mistake Licht could make. OL, DL, CB give us best value long term and should be the only thing we consider this draft. Case closed. Pick up a free agent RB on the cheaper side.

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surferdudes

How does resigning D.Smith, Kwon Alexander coming off an ACL, Humphries, for more money make them play better? We’ve won ten games with all off them, Brate included the last two years. So paying these same players more money will all of a sudden make us win more? Did Brate have a better season in 2018, then he did in 2017 because we gave him 7 million a year? No it was worse. Will D.Smith get better with a bigger paycheck, will Kwon coming off an ACL? The answer is NO! I don’t care what Reynolds says anymore, Kwon wasn’t… Read more »

BucWild02

I will answer your question. How? One word. Continuity. Players in their first contract have room to grow. Changing scheme and leadership might help. Signing D.Jax was always a mistake that would hamstring Humphries and the emerging offenses development. It was also gonna put extra pressure on Winston and the OL to give time for long bombs to DJax to develop. The BUcs should have signed a thumper like Latavius Murray instead and given the OL a chance to runblock and given Winston a solid rushing attack. Kwon regressed last year but he’s a downhill player, not a coverage linebacker.… Read more »

76Buc

Don’t need many players. Need coaches.

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mjmoody

IDK what Jones would look like in space, where he excels because he never got there. IDK what Smith would look like w/ good coaching or at RT, where he was evaluated to play his best. I take exception to SR’s statement for Licht to find players that fit scheme. This was Mike Smiths greatest failing in my opinion. It separates good teams from bad. Coaching to a players strength, not trying to fit a player into your scheme. Watch Bradley Mcdougald play for the Seahawks this weekend. Mahomes is good, having Andy Reid makes him great. How much better… Read more »

mjmoody

My Bad, Marpet was at RG & LG not T. Still, besides the typos, I still feel the point is sound. Unfortunately bourbon seems to kill brain cells.

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GrayBalls

Yes, but makes the mundane more bearable

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76Buc

1. Hire A Coach To Replace Koetter – If not Arians because of health then make him VP of Football Operations. 2. Align Personnel With Coaching Philosophy -Great coaches align their schemes to fit the personnel they have and add their kind of guys as they go along. 3. Create Salary Cap Room -Get rid of all players that were having fun while losing. 4. Figure Out If Smith Gets An Extension Or The Franchise Tag – make him a guard and offer him a guard’s franchise. Gives him a year to prove he can play the position. 5. Offer… Read more »

SelmonRules1000

Malcolm Glazer “Leadership comes from the top and then down. Not the other way around.” Businessman, Professional Sports Team Owner. At age 15, Glazer took over the family’s watch-parts company, which was only worth $300.00 at the time, following the death of his father. He started the growth of his business by buying several trailer parks in the 1970s and later, became president of the First Allied Corporation, which specializes in the ownership of shopping centers located throughout the United States. His first step into the sports world was in 1995, when he purchased the NFL’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers for… Read more »

fredster

Please don’t sign Smith to long term contract. He is not good. I can’t believe we can’t do better for 13 million per year.

How is Noah Spence on this team still? Guy couldn’t do anything in pre season playing against 3rd and 4th string players. Crazy how bad he is for whatever reason.

Grimes and his wife are idiots and garbage.

Please hire Arians. Nobody else available is proven.

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scubog

I always read the Fab 4 plus 1 on Saturday mornings. First thing I do is see how many comments, which tips me off that the article may be more or less controversial. Eighty plus made me think there must be some political or religious reference, but alas, the number of comments was due to the on-line conversations between Bucs’ fans. Some of you folks must not have “spit” to do. Wish I was so fortunate. I always seem to have a Honey Do List that rarely includes “Relax”. I am on record as thinking our best choice for HC… Read more »

Horse

Scubog, I can understand why the Glazer’s kept Licht because of fear of the situation getting worse rather than looking at it as the possibilities it could get much better. Licht has his last chance to make it better; I hope he has the strength to make some major releases and trades. This is the time for Licht to take chances as long as it doesn’t put the Bucs in future salary cap restrictions. Go Bucs!

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surferdudes

Retaining the same players for more money because they are serviceable, or for continuity, makes zero sense. continuity, as in continue to keep losing? The Bucs need to do something they’ve never done before, use a first round pick on the O line. Williams from Alabama should be the pick. We can’t afford to pay D. Smith 14 million a year. If we did we’d have 45 million in cap devoted to the same left side of our line that under performed last year for less, how would that make us better? Let some other team set Smith’s market value,… Read more »

BucWild02

Nope. All defense in the first 3 rounds unless a stud RB falls in their lap in the 2nd or 3rd.

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SelmonRules1000

Licht’s to do list? OOOOOHHHH GGOOOOODDDD!!!!!!!!!

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