FAB 2. Bucs Combine Scoop

The PewterReport.com staff and other members of the Tampa Bay media met with Bucs head coach Bruce Arians and general manager Jason Licht at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Here are the highlights of what they said on Tuesday – including my interpretation – along with other Bucs-related scoop from the Combine.

Howard Could Be Traded – Or Kept

Licht heaped a bunch of praise on fourth-year tight end O.J. Howard while at the podium speaking to the media at the NFL Scouting Combine. Howard is coming off a disappointing season in which he caught just one touchdown and contributed to three Jameis Winston interceptions due to his unsure hands.

Bucs TE OJ Howard – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR
Bucs TE OJ Howard – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

“Well the first year in the offense, he didn’t quite get the numbers that we thought he would,” Licht said. “But as we got into the off-season and the coaches looked at all the tapes they’re more than excited now about what he can do the second year (in this offense). It took a little bit of an acclimation from O.J. to our offense, but also from our scheme to O.J. So we have a lot better idea of what we can do and what he does best.”

Is Licht’s sudden excitement over Howard genuine, or is it just public posturing to help drive up the tight end’s potential trade value? I asked Licht if he would listen to offers for the team’s first-round pick in 2017.

“You’re going to think I’m being cryptic here, you have to listen to everything, but we have plans for O.J. being in our offense this year,” Licht said.

I’m not sold. I think Licht and Arians could conceivably have Howard back in 2020 if there are no trading partners willing to give up adequate trade compensation, which I believe is a second-round pick.

Arians’ offense showed in 2019 that it’s a three-wide receiver scheme with a pair of Pro Bowl wide receivers leading the way. The tight ends just aren’t as valuable in the passing game as the receivers are because of the vertical nature of the offense.

Howard is the best tight end athlete on the team, but he isn’t the best receiver (Cam Brate), nor is he the best blocker (Antony Auclair). That makes him expendable, but Licht isn’t going to just give him away. Another team will have to come at the Bucs with a real solid offer. The guess here is New England, as Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels love throwing the ball to the tight end.

Bucs TE Cameron Brate and QB Jameis Winston
Bucs TE Cameron Brate and QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

As for Brate, if he stays in Tampa Bay he’ll likely have to take a pay cut from his $6 million cap value like defensive tackle Beau Allen had to last year.

“Potentially, we’ll have to see how things go and how pieces fall,” Licht said about Brate figuring into the team’s plans in 2020. “Potentially, yeah.”

Not exactly a ringing endorsement for Brate, who turns 29 this summer and has dealt with a variety of injuries over the past three years. Meanwhile, Arians gushed over Auclair, who will be a bigger part of the offense in 2020.

“He’s one of the best blocking tight ends in the league and he’s really improved as a receiver so he’s a big part of our plans,” Arians said.

Extensions For Godwin, David Will Come Later

In previous SR’s Fab 5 columns I forecasted the contract extensions of linebacker Lavonte David and wide receiver Chris Godwin, both of who are entering the final years of their respective deals. The Bucs still plan to do those extensions, but they’re not the priority.

Right now Licht and director of football administration Mike Greenberg will be focused on re-signing most of the team’s 19 unrestricted free agents before the start of free agency on March 16.

Bucs WR Chris Godwin – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs WR Chris Godwin – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

“He’s under contract,” Arians said. “He’s under contract for another year. We’ve got a lot of things that are sort of coming up because of timeline that we need to take care of. It’s not ranking guys. I would put Chris up there as one of the better players on our football team. But we have time with that one. There’s different ways to structure contracts and you’ve got to see what you have left.”

Look for the Bucs to work on extensions for Godwin and David over the summer and get them done before the start of the 2020 regular season in September.

Suh Wants To Return To Tampa Bay

Both Arians and Licht said they have had discussions with defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and that he wants to play football for another year and wants to do it in Tampa Bay. Suh will return to the Bucs in 2020, likely on a one-year deal worth around $7.25 million. That would be $2 million less than he made a year ago.

Winston Isn’t The Bucs’ Top Option At QB

Arians said that he would pick up the phone and try to persuade two quarterbacks to come to Tampa Bay if he could – New England’s Tom Brady and Philip Rivers, formerly of the Los Angeles Chargers. That means that Jameis Winston isn’t the Bucs’ first option to line up under center in Tampa Bay in 2020.

There are strong indications that Brady will be leaving New England, and has been linked to Indianapolis, Las Vegas and Los Angeles, where he would replace Rivers. Meanwhile, Rivers has been linked to Indianapolis. 

This doesn’t mean that Winston won’t return to Tampa Bay, though. If Brady and Rivers sign elsewhere as expected, and the Bucs don’t want Teddy Bridgewater, Winston could very well be option No. 3 and remain in Tampa Bay after all.

Arians’ Slip Of The Lip?

Arians is known for being outspoken with the media and speaking what’s on his mind, but perhaps he went a little too far on Tuesday.

Bucs head coach Bruce Arians – Photo by: PewterReport.com
Bucs head coach Bruce Arians – Photo by: PewterReport.com

“I really don’t know who’s available,” Arians said when talking about the team’s options at quarterback in free agency. “Mike [Greenberg] and Jason [Licht] can talk to agents now, so we’ll find out hopefully in 36, 48 hours.”

Greenberg, the team’s capologist, and Licht have been talking to agents all week, but are supposed to be only talking to agents of their own free agents. Of course that’s true for all 32 NFL teams – otherwise it’s called tampering.

But that’s what has happened in the bars and restuarants in Indy for decades for all 32 NFL teams, and that’s surely what’s been happening this week, too. NFL teams and agents gauging each other’s interest in players and suggesting contract amounts.

I’m not sure if Licht was informed about what Arians said when he spoke to the media first, but when Licht followed Arians and was second to speak to the Tampa Bay media he clarified things.

“There are dates where you are going to find out, March 16 and you’ll have a lot more clarity,” Licht said. “Until then we cant talk to anyone who is a pending free agent, their reps, we can only talk to our players, you hear things on the street but you wait for the dominos to fall and prepare for every scenario.”

That’s a solid cover job by Licht right there.

Licht Discusses Winston’s Knee Surgery

Licht told the media he was notified about Winston’s decision to undergo LASIK surgery this offseason in hopes to correct his nearsightedness. 

Before fans get up in arms that Winston waited until free agency to undergo the LASIK procedure, understand that most eye surgeons don’t recommend performing LASIK until patients are in their mid-20s until the eyes have fully developed. Winston just turned 26 in January.

Bucs GM Jason Licht
Bucs GM Jason Licht – Photo by: Pewterreport.com

Licht also discussed that Winston had his knee scoped this offseason, a surgery first made public on Twitter by Jameis1of1, author of the book “Jameis Winston Derangement Syndrome.”

“Yeah, he’s getting healthier this offseason,” Licht said. “I don’t want to report on every medical report we have, but that one was a little bit more out there.”

NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported that Winston had surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his knee this offseason.

Licht wouldn’t comment any further on Winston’s medical procedures this offseason, saying: “I would kind of feel more comfortable if you ask him. I’m glad that he wanted to make himself better.”

Barber Likely Won’t Be Back

Arians raved about Ronald Jones II at the NFL Scouting Combine, but didn’t mention Peyton Barber, who began the 2019 season as the team’s starter. That might not be a bad thing, except that Arians mentioned every running back on the roster but Barber.

“I feel solid about it right now,” Arians said of the Bucs’ running game. “But yeah, we’re always looking, really every position. But I like Ronald. I like T.J. [Logan] And Dare [Ogunbowale]. But there’s always a spot for another young one.”

That means that Barber, who will be an unrestricted free agent, likely won’t be back in 2020. Tampa Bay will draft a running back this year, perhaps as early as the second round with Wisconsin’s Jonathan Taylor or LSU’s Clyde Edwards-Helaire, or a middle-round pick like Miami’s DeeJay Dallas.

Tampa Bay Loves Its Young CBs

Arians and Licht were in lockstep when it came to profusing their love and affection to third-year cornerback Carlton Davis, as well as Jamel Dean and Sean Murphy-Bunting, who started last year as rookies.

Bucs CB Jamel Dean – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs CB Jamel Dean – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

“I love it,” Arians said. “We’re young, we’re talented, and I think all those kids finished the season playing extremely well. They didn’t hit the rookie wall for some reason like some do. They were still in there 5:30 in the morning watching the tape and some of them are in there now. I think that’s a really solid position for us for a long time.”

Don’t expect the Bucs to spend money on an expensive veteran free agent cornerback, nor will the team draft a cornerback before the fourth round. The reason? Any addition would only take away from the developmental time of the trio of young cornerbacks the Bucs want to roll into battle with next year.

This approach doesn’t come without its risks. A sophomore slump by either Jamel Dean or Sean Murphy-Bunting would put a serious crimp into the Bucs’ plans – and Tampa Bay’s secondary.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

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As poorly a researched article posted as truth as I have ever read in my life. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+27-91 Rating: -64. From 118 votes. Please wait...

Don
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I’d be stunned if Winston felt “disrespected” in any way by the team who drafted him, in spite of some serious baggage coming out of college. The team that stuck by him after his night in that Uber. And the team that has repeatedly given him starting opportunities, even after it appeared he’d exhausted all of them. No matter what happens, the Bucs have in NO way shown disrespect to Winston. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+92-9 Rating: +83. From 101 votes. Please wait...

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10 lb your icon lends credibility to your criticism. ugh Enjoyed the article Scott. I hope it’s not Rivers they’re thinking about, he’s almost if not already completely done with no real backup to groom. Trade Howard, Arians doesn’t use TE, never has. We drafted Howard for Koetter, and now we have a lost asset. I hope they pound OL, a top RB, and a safety in the draft. I would bank on Evans as his injury history isn’t reliable. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+19-9 Rating: +10. From 28 votes. Please wait...

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#hegone Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+23-12 Rating: +11. From 35 votes. Please wait...

cgmaster27
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The bucs gonna mess around and end up with a rookie qb this year. Rivers is a hard no from me and brady isnt coming to tampa. And while some think winston wont have a market, i do. Hes gonna get paid by someone. But hey maybe well have some schmuck we drafted in the 3rd round as qb next year. As for coach killer scott, it was lovies historically bad defense and complete inability to coach that got him fired, not jameis. Koetters offenses couldnt score, strangely he had the same problem at atlanta this year. Guess that was… Read more »

Captain Sly
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Scott is probably the best inside Bucs reporter out there! So I will disagree with you on that… Scott I argued with your proposal last week for the Bucs to offer the tag and then rescind it as “Bad Business”. I didn’t see the Bucs operating with it’s players using sleazy tactics like that… The Franchise Tag is offered only to the guys that you believe in and from the very start the FO has consistently communicated to Winston that we love you but “We’re not in Love with you” Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+15-6 Rating: +9. From 21… Read more »

10lbbass
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Again. This is hilarious how far off it is. Keep PRing though. It’ll be great. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+10-47 Rating: -37. From 57 votes. Please wait...

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I was 100% sold on Jameis five years ago and yes my loyalty to him has diminished after 4 years of losing and one marginal showing that didn’t result in a playoff. I have admitted that I am not a football coach and in no way shape of form profess to know how to fix his problem. I do know for sure that the problem boils down to losing football games and common sense tells me that requires a team effort. Over five years in addition to Jameis’s errors other area’s of the team have been extremely deficient and I… Read more »

LIBucsFan93
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SR has covered the Bucs more years than some of you have been alive. He has more inside information on the Bucs than some of the national media. He is telling us what he’s hearing and I trust his instincts. I may not agree with him all the time but I trust that he’s better informed than I am. I still say the Bucs are targeting either Brady or Bridgewater. Heck Andy Dalton could be had in a trade. At least Dalton has playoff experience. Bye Bye Winston. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+34-25 Rating: +9. From 59 votes. Please… Read more »

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@cgmaster27 I totally agree with you on the coaches. Lovie Smith was terrible and so was Koetter. Funny how on the last podcast Scott himself mentioned as much, but now all of a sudden it’s Winston who doomed them? You can’t have it both ways fellas. Pick a side and stick to it. I have a big hell no to rivers. My only get is Brady or bring Winston back and draft a QB in the third round or later. No QB will be able to come in and develop a rapport with these receivers and all the option routes… Read more »

Captain Sly
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Captain Sly

I not going to completely rule out the possibility of Winston Returning! I believe Winston’s team needs a realistic view of his market value…. I don’t think the organization has given up on him, They just were not willing to commit $30 mil of the Salary Cap for his services. Who knows maybe Winston’s Camp gets humbled and come back play on a 1yr prove it deal like Shaq Barrett. Who Knows! Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+21-1 Rating: +20. From 22 votes. Please wait...

cgmaster27
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@Libucsfan Andy dalton? Are you serious? You all talk about losing and want andy dalton? And what is his experience im the playoffs? He made it what 2 years and lost both? Congrats the other 11 years he never made it. But hey he has been there right? Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+16-11 Rating: +5. From 27 votes. Please wait...

LIBucsFan93
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At least Dalton has led a team to the playoffs. With Winston under center they are averaging 5.6 wins a season. Dalton is better than most give him credit for. The Bengals have been horrid the past 2 years. Daltons services are no longer needed as Joe Barrow is going to take over the reins in Cinncy. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+12-10 Rating: +2. From 22 votes. Please wait...

cgmaster27
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On a side i think its hysterical you all think there womt be a market for jameis? You all seem to forget just 3 years ago mike glennon got 27 million to start. Case keenum got paid. The list of below average qbs who got starter money is there for proof. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+25-17 Rating: +8. From 42 votes. Please wait...

Dman
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You took the words right out of my mouth @chefboho. Half the time I read it’s coaching, the other half is it’s Jameis. Winston has certainly lost games for us with his picks, but based on the poor coaching and outright lack of talent on this team, there’s been no way we win unless Jameis won it for us. How many games have we won scoring 17 or 21 points? How many games have we had a 100 yard runner? Or the clutch field goal or that special teams play? I hate that we’re in the spot, but this point… Read more »

e
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e

I still think this is a lot of posturing. I think Jameis will be back if he realizes that he can’t expect to break the bank with his contract. The thing that has killed this franchise over the last decade is upheaval. The constant state of change, from top to bottom, has led to this team’s demise. Jameis is not perfect, but he is not the weak part of the team. I hope he is resigned to a reasonable contract and a lot of the defense stays intact in the offseason. That’s the only realistic way for this team to… Read more »

BigSombrero
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BigSombrero

How was the market for Joe Flacco last year? How about Nick Foles? $27 and $25 million respectively, but Winston is only worth $9 million to compete with Trubisky? Beyond comical. Its just silly talk. I guess we’ll see in 3 weeks or less. Also, Every year this site explains how the Bucs will use their franchise tag, and every year the don’t use it. Last year, it was Donovan Smith. This year it’s Winston – scratch that. Now its Barrett. My money is on no tag for no player. Just straight forward deals for players they want to keep… Read more »

LIBucsFan93
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LIBucsFan93

the thing is and the point SR was making is that there aren’t to many QB openings and far to many options available to teams. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+2-3 Rating: -1. From 5 votes. Please wait...

BigSombrero
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BigSombrero

SR called bullshit on Jason Licht regarding OJ!! OJ to the Patriots he says! Makes as much sense as all the other bullshit in this article. Logic be damned! Let me spell it out to make sure I understand what he thinks is going to happen after he read the tea leaves… Bucs are looking to bring in Brady(43) or Rivers(39), both of whom have made their TEs hall of famers between Gronk and Gates, then the Bucs are going to: 1. Trade OJ 2. Reduce Brates pay or release him if he refuses to accept a pay cut 3.… Read more »

LIBucsFan93
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LIBucsFan93

If Brady comes to the Bucs then OJ isn’t going anywhere. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+7-1 Rating: +6. From 8 votes. Please wait...

BigSombrero
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1. Obviously keeping Winston. They’re trying to get the price right. He is the reason BA was hired. He is tied to Licht. Package deal – point blank. 2. Trade OJ. He doesn’t fit in BAs offense and there will be a market for him. His league wide expectations going into 2019 were sky high until we saw how little Arians uses tight ends. 3. Sign Barrett, Suh, Dotson and JPP. 4. Draft DL, DE, OL, RB, QB. So very simple. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+21-24 Rating: -3. From 45 votes. Please wait...

awwdembucs
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IMO BA will make the final decision. Also IMO BA had the final decision in last year’s draft. I do think Jason Licht drafted the kicker Gay. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+3-1 Rating: +2. From 4 votes. Please wait...

Devasher
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You really have to have a special appreciation for the lack of self awareness shown by a writer who has literally called for the firing or replacemnt of the previous 3 coaches, openly asking if the QB is a “coach killer.” No Scott, no one has attempted to end more coaching careers in this town than you. Just ask Greg Schiano, Lovie Smith, Dirk Koetter, Mike Smith, Mikal Smith, Jay Hayes and George Warhop. Yet somehow despite all of these coaches that Scott has asked to be paid not to coach the team anymore the team is perennially out of… Read more »

Charlie
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Charlie

Haha too all the Winston nerds who extremely butt hurt right now! Damn right he’s only worth 9 million dollars. Not only do people with his numbers not get franchise tagged or contracts extensions for even 15-20 million, they don’t even play in the league anymore lol. And I really do think it’s comical to think that Tom Brady wouldn’t want to come in here, I think he’s SERIOUSLY considering it. We have a better situation than any team other team that he could go to perhaps other than Tennessee (but I still think our coaches and WRs are better)… Read more »

lordnlkon
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lordnlkon

Will be great when captain turnover is finally gone. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+20-19 Rating: +1. From 39 votes. Please wait...

DonkeyHunter
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DonkeyHunter

*STANDING OVATION* Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+11-9 Rating: +2. From 20 votes. Please wait...

DonkeyHunter
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DonkeyHunter

Devasher ABSOLUTELY KILLED it with his take. Totally killed SR with it. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+10-5 Rating: +5. From 15 votes. Please wait...

Pit of misery
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Pit of misery

Nobody wants Winston!!!!!! Someone will offer him a one year 5 million dollar deal and he will come back to Tampa on a one year deal with a team option year 2…. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+10-17 Rating: -7. From 27 votes. Please wait...

Horse
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Horse

Nothing else to say that hasn’t already been said before. One thing I do know and is we have a good coach and I have confident whatever he decides to pick and choose from as to players I will support it. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+13-2 Rating: +11. From 15 votes. Please wait...

CrackerBall
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Eh… maybe, just maybe, there is now some sensibility at One Buc Place Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+6-2 Rating: +4. From 8 votes. Please wait...

Dy-nasty D
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Dy-nasty D

Nice article, but please, didn’t anyone ever teach you that bragging isn’t socially acceptable? It would be nice to have 1 article that didn’t always make a claim like “I was the first to….” Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+14-2 Rating: +12. From 16 votes. Please wait...

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Given the number a players any one agent represents, it’s impossible for the NFL to monitor which of that agent’s players a team is discussing at any given time. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+60 Rating: +6. From 6 votes. Please wait...

bucballer
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bucballer

Wow! Lot to digest here! Clearly, I think the Jameis camp have overvalued their product with rumors of a $30 mil/per starting asking price. As a result, the Bucs have said that this is just unreasonable. I’ve mentioned before that I thought that the Bucs were the team that could/would offer Jameis the most money. I still believe that. Nobody is going to give Jameis 28-30 mil per. Nobody! So the Bucs call the bluff and say let’s see ur true market value. This is a prudent move. Especially when this team is so talented and just a couple of… Read more »

dbenn2012
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dbenn2012

I think you are right in saying if there is any chance Brady will come here, the Bucs coaches, owners, and most fans would be delighted. I think some of the recent comments by BA and Licht point to that – talking about the receiver tandem that is one of the best in the league, admitting OJ can do more than he did last year and adding his blocking is getting better, while also talking about Brate having the surest hands. Mentioning Auclair being the best blocker, stating he needs an RB who is a true third down back and… Read more »

cgmaster27
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cgmaster27

@LI i think its convenient you say the bengles have been horrid the last two years and not Dalton. You place wins solely on the qb when it comes to Winston, but when it comes the Dalton, the bengles have been bad for 2 years. No , Dalton has been bad for the past couple of years. And putting Jameis wins a season is hysterically short sighted. I dont need to put up our defensive and rushing ranks the last 5 years. We all know people like you are allergic to those that dont support your idea. The BUCS have… Read more »

seat26
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seat26

It is so important that Bucs get it right this offseason. I don’t envy them at all when it comes to the Winston question. Obviously 30 interceptions are a lot of turnovers. But 5100 yards and 33 TDs is a lot of production. But this sounds more like maneuvering for a better price from the Winston camp. I cannot imagine the Bucs signing Brady to a big contract and then having him play for one year. That smells like desperation to me. I think most of the QBs out there in free agency are in the same boat as Brady,… Read more »

BucRy
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BucRy

Again with another guy who thinks Andy Dalton is good cause he has playoff “experience” I posted this before but will post this again. Dalton in the playoffs. 0-4 record 55.7% completion 873 yards 1 to 6 interceptions 4 fumbles 57.8 QB rating. What a winner. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+17-5 Rating: +12. From 22 votes. Please wait...

BUC-ASS-BOB
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BUC-ASS-BOB

Finally cook put an article out it said the same thing I’ve been saying all along no team is going to pay Jameis Winston more than $9 million other than the moron Bucs management . But now it sounds like not even they are going to do it I’m counting the days to say goodbye to Winston and I’m wondering what the FSU/Winston/CG/Fredster/Chef are going to say Will they still be here after Jameis is cut? Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+12-16 Rating: -4. From 28 votes. Please wait...

BucRy
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BucRy

1 touchdown to 6 interceptions* Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+5-3 Rating: +2. From 8 votes. Please wait...

bucballer
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bucballer

Look… Jameis was not the ONLY reason the Bucs haven’t been winning! Yes! He’s part of the problem! I think Licht is more to blame for the pirate blues around here than JW. Wasted picks and over valuing guys at the wrong spot. Not making sure that the depth was there at O-Line and not providing depth at QB that is actually a challenge to JW. Among many other things. Like I said, JW is not the ONLY reason we haven’t been winning, but he has cost us some wins with his pick-sixes and turnovers. I’m just saying… Rate this… Read more »

chefboho
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chefboho

BAB. One thing you need to realize is that I’ve been on these boards way before Winston got here and I’ll be on longer than Jameis’ career whether he’s here or not. Now you on the other hand, haven’t been present till the last year or so since you’ve been calling for Jameis to be cut. The REAL question, and the one that should have your palms sweaty, is that if they DO sign Jameis will you actually hold to your word and disappear from these boards? I think it’s more important to this franchise and fan base to sign… Read more »

surferdudes
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My guess is JW goes to his favorite childhood team Philly as Wentz’s back up. You can’t win throwing picks on your first play of the game, and you certainly can’t win throwing pick sixes to end games. Everyone in the league knows this so there is no market for Jameis as a starter right now. He’ll have to compete for whatever he gets now, something he never had to do since his freshman season at FSU. Don’t be to sure the Bucs don’t draft a QB in the first round, or move back into the first round to do… Read more »

The Wall
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The Wall

Winston is one if the more confounding players I have ever seen. You can’t question his courage under fire. He is obviously mega talented. Still, there just aren’t any excuses for some of the bone headed throws he made this year. It literally hurt to watch him at times. Let’s move on. We need to build on a strong defense. Draft the best offensive tackle in the first round. Trade Howard before everyone realizes he isn’t what he appears to be. Sign a veteran quarterback and draft the best quarterback we can in round two or three. We aren’t going… Read more »

BUC-ASS-BOB
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BUC-ASS-BOB

Dear Chef, I have been here for 2 years saying Winston is bust and argue the point back and forth with you. I am negative because no matter what the Bucs do in draft or FA they are going to be out of playoff picture the week before Halloween every year Jameis Winston is on the roster ….. Jameis can fool the moron with his smooth mouthpiece got your back baby BS talk. The level of negative he brings to the locker room with the real person he is only known to people of a higher level of the psychological… Read more »

Alldaway 2.0
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If the new CBA is signed my prediction is that that all the QB’s on the free agent markets are going to get paid big time. My educated guess is that the Bucs have a plan to trade for a vet QB in the event all the major free agent QB’s are signed. But overall the Bucs have made it clear they want to re-sign their defensive core first. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+7-1 Rating: +6. From 8 votes. Please wait...

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Spitfire

Some of you people take these articles the wrong way. PR reports roomers, tells us from using their knowledge what they think may happen, and other times what thy think I’ll happen. They have not said, as far as I’ve read, that they are reporting the Bucs WILL use the Franchise Tag on a player for sure. So no attitude required. This article is just saying the feeling they are getting from the interviews and press conferences. Everyone just needs to stay calm. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+5-1 Rating: +4. From 6 votes. Please wait...

Spitfire
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Spitfire

Of course they will still be here, because they are Bucs fans. That’s the point you don’t get because you aren’t one. We are all hoping you won’t be here if Winston stays because you hate Winston and the Bucs so much, but the rest of us are here no matter what because we love the team through and through. You aren’t a Bucs Fan so you don’t get it. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+5-5 Rating: 0. From 10 votes. Please wait...

Soul Bro
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Soul Bro

I agree with The Wall. It’s time to move on! Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating+110 Rating: +11. From 11 votes. Please wait...

SenileSenior
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SenileSenior

Martinii I have a some things in common with you.  I have had some similar feelings regarding Jameis Winston over time.  He is a great talent.  He has a significant flaw in his game. Will the Bucs move on without him?  Will They franchise tag him? Does Bruce Arians think he can finish what he has started and thus win a Super Bowl with JW under center?  I don’t know.  My guess is as good as the next person’s. In BA I do trust.  I think he is certainly the best head coach we have had since Gruden. Here are some fun reflections. ______________________… Read more »

BUC FOR LIFE
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BUC FOR LIFE

There WILL be a market for Winston’s services if we don’t offer him a deal. There are a few deciding factors. YES, He could feel disrespected, ridiculous, but true. We don’t know who is in his ear in his camp. What I think will happen is a one year prove it deal. He may not love it but, he NEEDS to see the OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN. Tampa has stuck with him, through thick and thin. We have NEVER had a winning season with him under center. (Take it easy, there is a point here). Let’s give him a… Read more »

scubog
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scubog

I’ll be so glad when the QB situation is resolved…….at least for the 2020 season. The only thing certain is that I’ll cheer for whoever is under center. Richie McKay always spoke of the off-season being filled with lies, misinformation, ill-advised conjecture and just plain BS. Yet folks continue to analyze every little statement, read between the lines and even try to make something out of silence. Good grief! I know this much. If Jason and B.A. enter this speed dating event (free agency and the Draft) looking for the QB of their dreams, I sure hope they don’t wait… Read more »

Captain Sly
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Captain Sly

Amazing reading the comments on here! You typically work out a deal before your guy hits the Open Market. If Jason Licht really wanted to sign Jamies Winston he would have done it already! The very least he would have done it last offseason when we were in Cap Hell and we could have turned most of it into a signing bonus allowing to sign another player or two. Okay you might be saying new coach new system lets see how he does with that first before we go all in….. So let look at the season last year. There… Read more »

fredster
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fredster

Dumb-Ass-Bite, you have been here doing nothing but criticizing this whole team and calling everyone a bust including Vea and saying Bowles would be a complete disaster. Your a complete moron and a troll. I’ve already said I’m a Bucs fan over 30 years. I’m not a dip shit troll or fair weather jackass like you. I’ll be Bucs fan forever whoever QB is. I’m not going anywhere on PR either I enjoy it other than your nonsensical rants and idiocy. Rivers would be a disaster. He is not an upgrade and guaranteed to throw 20+ int. In this offense.… Read more »

BigSombrero
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BigSombrero

Purchased nfl game pass for $25. Watched all the Brady/Patriots and Rivers/Chargers games. Yes, those guys will be hall of fame QBs one day, but last season wasn’t a very good sample of greatness for either player. I’m sure learning BAs system that features lots of downfield passing and taking sacks has them hungry for the opportunity to throw passes off of OJ brick mittens for interception after interception. Many games stood out for the wrong reasons, but I’m sure my opinion doesnt matter vs the chorus of GOAT or Rivers chants. I’m all for Bucs winning, but so far… Read more »