FAB 4. No More Bad Characters In Tampa Bay

Bucs general manager Jason Licht gets at least one more draft in Tampa Bay and at least one more round of free agency. There is a decent chance that he may draft or sign a bust – a player that just doesn’t perform up to expectations. That happens virtually every year with every general manager around the league. No G.M. has a perfect draft or a perfect free agent class.

Drafting or signing a bust is one thing, but drafting or signing a player with bad character is another. A player with bad character is also called a “turd” in NFL scouting circles to define a player with a crappy attitude.

The Big Takeaway
Players that don’t play well are one thing. Players that have cancerous attitudes can really stink up a locker room. In a critical year in Tampa Bay for Licht and first-year head coach Bruce Arians, the Bucs general manager needs to do a clean flush of the locker room and get rid of any bad characters, but more importantly – don’t add any more in free agency or the draft.

Now you may ask why I am signaling to Licht to stay away from such players, yet suggesting that the Bucs consider signing running back Kareem Hunt, who was kicked off the Chiefs on December 1 for what would be classified as misdemeanor assault towards a woman in Cleveland last offseason if he were charged with anything. By all accounts, Hunt was a great teammate in Kansas City, just as Jameis Winston, despite his previous off-field issues, has been a great teammate in Tampa Bay. He’s also taken full responsibility for his actions and I believe in forgiveness.

Bucs DT Chris Baker - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs DT Chris Baker – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

When I talk about guys with bad character I’m talking about left tackle Anthony Collins, who stunk up the joint and took the money and ran in 2014 while butting heads with offensive line coach George Warhop, and also tight end Austin Seferian-Jenkins, a second-round draft pick, whose alcohol problems early in his career led to his quick demise as a Buccaneer after he butted heads with head coach Dirk Koetter.

The one-year locker room cancer that was defensive tackle Chris “Swaggy” Baker (or was it Chris “Lazy” Baker) has been well documented, but there were two other turds who stunk it up over the last year in Tampa Bay – wide receiver DeSean Jackson and cornerback Brent Grimes. First, let’s recap Jackson’s two-year tenure with the Bucs, which will be coming to an end this offseason after he gets cut or traded.

On December 21, Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times wrote this: “Interviews with coaches and players confirm that Jackson was fined extensively for being late to meetings and sometimes fell asleep in them. He rarely took notes.

It got worse in the final months. Jackson refused to play catch with one of his coaches one day before practice and was told to sit out.

Just before Christmas last year, he played cards in the locker room with his former Washington teammate, defensive tackle Chris Baker, and was late to a meeting. When told he would be fined again, Jackson erupted and kicked over a display Bucs receivers were using for a secret Santa gift exchange. He then became involved in a physical altercation with one of his coaches and had to be restrained by a teammate.”

Bucs WR DeSean Jackson
Bucs WR DeSean Jackson – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Jackson had several tantrums on the sidelines of Bucs games this year when he wasn’t getting the ball when Jameis Winston returned to the lineup, and then despite the team’s 27-9 win against the 49ers, Jackson took to social media to vent over the fact that he had just three catches for 19 yards. Jackson asked to be traded prior to the trade deadline, and then said on his podcast that he wanted to stay and retire with the Bucs a few weeks later. Then in December, Jackson told ESPN’s Josina Anderson that he wanted to move on from Tampa Bay and put his house up for sale.

Good riddance, DJax.

Then there was the play of cornerback Brent Grimes, who had to be talked out of retirement to come back to play one more year at age 35. Talking a player into staying when he has one foot out the door was Licht’s second mistake. His first mistake was signing Grimes in the first place a few years ago because his outspoken wife Miko is a ticking timebomb.

It’s like having a pet boa constrictor. You can pet it and hold it, but if you think you’ve truly made it domesticated and try to sleep with it, it tries to strangle you and kill you.

The danger of a boa constrictor is always there. Why? Because at the end of the day it’s a snake.

The first couple of years in Tampa Bay, Grimes played well with four interceptions, 24 pass breakups and a game-winning pick-six in 2016, followed by 11 pass breakups and three more INTs in 13 games in 2017. But last year, Grimes’ production nose-dived. In 13 games, Grimes had zero interceptions and came into the season finale with just three pass breakups.

Bucs CB Brent Grimes – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs CB Brent Grimes – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Grimes seemed like he checked out mentally from the start, as he had a lackluster training camp, sitting out over a week with an injury that was never identified by the media. Grimes looked like he played soft throughout the year, rarely made plays and looked disinterested in making tackles in the run game.

After the season, he took to Miko’s podcast to defend his play and make a startling revelation and blasted the Bucs in the process.

“I mean, it’s an opinion, I don’t feel like I had a bad year,” Grimes said. “I had multiple games where I didn’t have a target. I allowed two touchdowns.

“Fans really don’t know. That’s why the owners in football have a great advantage, because they can paint whatever picture they want to paint because people don’t really know what’s going on. I play football and watching TV copies you can’t really tell what the f*** is going on. You don’t know. It’s whatever – people are going to say what they’re going to say.

“Going into this season I wasn’t sure if I was going to play. They called. They were running some weird numbers with the money or whatever. I get there, and we come to an agreement of a base salary of $7 million, which is nice money to play left corner or whatever, okay. I’ve been playing left corner – everything is cool. Y’all want to pay me $7 million when other corners are making way more than that and not playing as well as me, cool.

“But we get to the Steelers [game in Week 3] and then they start asking me to follow people and I was just tired of every year of my career I don’t get any type of respect for what I do. And then y’all hit me with the seven [million dollars] and then we get to a game with Antonio Brown and now it’s follow receivers and I couldn’t agree with that. Because it’s just disrespectful because people that follow receivers all the time, unless they’re on a rookie contract or trying to get paid, are usually making $13–15 million dollars per year. That’s not right. It’s disrespectful and that just f***ed up my whole vibe for the whole year to be completely honest. Because it’s just disrespectful, I just felt disrespected.”

Bucs CB Brent Grimes - Photo by: Mary Holt/PR
Bucs CB Brent Grimes – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

Grimes went on to detail how he and cornerbacks coach Jon Hoke didn’t get along, and how he was benched for being on his phone at the halftime of the Bears game despite that being common practice with the team throughout the year. Players being on their phones at halftime instead of listening to the coaches talk about halftime adjustments seems like an entirely different problem altogether and speaks volumes about the losing culture that engulfed the Koetter regime.

But at the end of the day, Grimes wasn’t benched for poor play throughout the year like he should have been because head coach Dirk Koetter was likely afraid Miko would take to social media and make a big stink about it, criticize the coaches and the team, and air out the Bucs’ dirty laundry publicly – just like she did in her husband’s last stop, which was in Miami. Koetter was trying to do everything he could to win enough games to salvage his job, and couldn’t afford to let Miko rock the boat, so he let the Grimes-Hoke situation ride, which was a mistake.

Grimes needed somebody to tell him that the “CB” in front of his name stood for “cornerback” – not “Coach Brent.” Players play and coaches coach.

Good riddance, Grimes.

Players make way more money than position coaches do. For $7 million per season – which isn’t chump change for a player that turned out to be chump corner in his final year in Tampa Bay – Grimes should have done whatever his coaches asked him to do with a smile on his face. Football is the ultimate team sport and the best teams are the ones that usually have a lot of players with team-first attitudes.

Grimes clearly didn’t have a team-first attitude. Instead he had selfish, money-grubbing attitude and he set a poor example for a lot of the team’s younger defensive backs and rookies.

Do you think Adam Humphries’ “vibe was f***ed up” by being told to return punts in addition to playing slot receiver last year? Do you think Humphries griped about not getting paid more to play special teams in addition to offense?

Heck no, Hump went out and balled in a contract year, doing as much for the team as he was asked to do. That’s why the Bucs are going to attempt to re-sign him to a contract extension this offseason while waving goodbye to selfish players like Jackson and Grimes.

Bucs GM Jason Licht and WR DeSean Jackson - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs GM Jason Licht and WR DeSean Jackson – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

The FABulous Ending
Were there problems with Koetter and his coaching staff in Tampa Bay? Yes, and that’s a big reason why Koetter was fired. Grimes isn’t entirely wrong for calling out some of the faults with the scheme under Mike Smith and some of the chaos that ensued over the last year and half before Smith got fired. But it’s Grimes’ attitude – and the attitudes of players like Collins, Seferian-Jenkins and Jackson that have literally stunk in Tampa Bay over the last couple of seasons.

I think Arians, who is a no-nonsense coach, won’t tolerate any more guys with questionable character in Tampa Bay. But Licht needs to do his part and make sure he stops importing them in free agency and the draft.

1
2
3
4
5
Previous articleBucs Hire RBs Coach, Pursuing Another DBs Coach
Next articleArians’ Bucs Staff Grows; Could Miss Out On Rodgers
Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

41 COMMENTS

  1. Arians more in involved with the draft? Love it.

    Two practices going for vets and youth? Love it.

    Cutting the cancerous players from this team? Love it.

    Finally a coaching staff that will develop, train and let the players play to their strengths. We are very lucky as Bucs fans.

    +50
    -2
    Rating: +48. From 52 votes.
    Please wait...
  2. Kareem Hunt? Sure they could sign him, but I would hesitate before I did if I was in their position. Why? Because his family is a bunch of criminals – and he is going down the same path. The Bucs are already giving Winston a third chance, how many chances does Hunt now get? What is this saying to the women who are getting attacked? Is the “Metoo” movement exempt in the NFL?

    Hunt’s father, also named Kareem Hunt, has been arrested at least 35 times in northeast Ohio and multiple times on charges of domestic violence. Most of the felony convictions were for drug-related offenses. He was sentenced to a combined nine years in prison on nine felony convictions, but it’s unclear how much time he spent in jail for dozens of misdemeanor charges.

    Today, the senior Kareem Hunt, 47, is due in court for nonpayment of court costs, records show. The court appearance stems from a 2012 conviction for disorderly conduct and violating a protecting order, which prohibits an abuser from harassing a victim of domestic violence.

    Yet until recently, the junior Kareem Hunt, 23, has avoided serious trouble and was on his way to another 1,000-yard rushing season for the surging Chiefs after he led the NFL in rushing yards as a rookie in 2017.

    In April, Ava Hunt’s son, Rashan Hunt, was sentenced to 23 years in prison for voluntary manslaughter.

    Lorenzo Hunt, Kareem Hunt’s cousin, who was sentenced in 2004 to seven years in prison for aggravated robbery and a felony firearm offense.

    Kevin Riggins, who family members and records say is Kareem Hunt’s uncle, is serving a 10-year prison sentence for drug-trafficking and other drug-related offenses. A cousin, Gregory E. Hunt, is serving a 12-year prison sentence for drug- and gun-related offenses.

    Kareem Hunt’s older brother, Clarence Riggins, was sentenced to more than two years in prison after a 2014 conviction for criminal trespass, according to court records. Hunt’s mother was arrested in 2014 on charges of cocaine possession and pleaded guilty to driving under the influence, court records show. Hunt’s stepfather, Deltrin Kimbro, was sentenced in 2004 to eight years in prison for drug trafficking and related offenses, according to court records.

    The list goes on and on. There are more, but you get the point. Now TMZ publishes a graphic video that shows Hunt shoving and kicking a 19-year-old woman, after he lied to the Chiefs that it “never happened.”

    The apple does not fall far from the tree. Perhaps he cleans up his act for the remainder of his NFL career. What do you think is going to happen when it ends, and for running backs, the average span is 4 to 5 years?

    Whatever team picks him up will get a very good player – but at what cost? Are the Bucs going to be a team of questionable character going forward, trying to win at all costs but getting black eyes every season because some other questionable player crosses the line? The NFL already has a huge image problem and they wonder why ratings are falling – keeping people like Hunt in the NFL just defeats the commercials of the NFL saying “look at all the good we are doing!” I guarantee a lot of people are upset about the NFL already, hiring Hunt again won’t make any of them happy. But if the strategy is to win at all costs, then by all means, pursue Hunt. Only don’t expect everyone to be happy about it.

    +37
    -31
    Rating: +6. From 68 votes.
    Please wait...
    • grow up

      +11
      -36
      Rating: -25. From 47 votes.
      Please wait...
      • Grow up? Are you kidding me? I am presenting the other side of the story. Don’t like it, give me a thumbs down. Nothing I wrote is not the truth about the extended family – or him. Image is part of the NFL.

        +38
        -11
        Rating: +27. From 49 votes.
        Please wait...
    • Wonderful post @bucstopshere5 the information you’ve posted is exactly what any franchise in the NFL would pay an investigator to find out. To the people who downvoted that post I’d love to hear your explanation why a background check on a player and word of caution is something you disagree with. To some knowledge is power, to others ignorance is bliss.

      +35
      -7
      Rating: +28. From 42 votes.
      Please wait...
    • That’s a an good bit of research there bucstops! I didnt know he came from a family with such trouble. I hate to put the sins of the father on the sun, but hunt has also done some bad things. Do I believe the bucs should pick him up? I do if its vented and he signs a contract with a ton of offset lagnuage. Again ,it is vision thing to as to how this looks to the public, but we shall see. Again a great bit of research sir

      +5
      -3
      Rating: +2. From 8 votes.
      Please wait...
      • I believe in second chances. I’ve had them. Guys can get away from the home boys back in the hood or wherever, but it’s hard to run away from your family.
        That said, it can be done.

        +11
        -1
        Rating: +10. From 12 votes.
        Please wait...
    • I should not get all the credit. It was originally posted online, I believe on USA Today on research everything his family has gone through. Thank you devasher, cgmaster27. It is eye opening.

      +4
      -2
      Rating: +2. From 6 votes.
      Please wait...
  3. I like that you have McCoy in your 3-4 lineup. I think he should return on a restructured contract. He deserves to be on a Bucs playoff team. I think he along with Vea and Nassib, could be the 3 down lineman. I also like the 4 LBs you have, JPP, Kwon, David and Beckwith.
    I’d like to see the Honey Badger start opposite of Evans. He signed a 1 year deal with Houston last March. A reunion with BA would be great.

    I’m also open to the Hunt idea, I thought about it the minute he was released. And like you, I don’t condone what he did, and believe in second chances too.

    +18
    -7
    Rating: +11. From 25 votes.
    Please wait...
  4. I’m on the fence with Hunt. I like Winston and believe he is a better and different man than he was, but unfortunately I don’t think the Bucs can handle the PR of including Hunt with Winston already on the roster. If Jameis didn’t have that history, I think it could be sold better as a second chance. No doubt we could use his talent.

    As an Oklahoma State alum I do feel I need to clarify and defend the mention of Tyreek Hill while there. OSU did the right thing and cut him immediately when this occurred. It was brutal what he did. And OSU did this immediately when it happened, which unfortunately was only a week after we were still singing his praises and riding high with him – he had just returned a kick for a TD against those effing sooners from Oklahoma and led us to a sweet victory against them. We loved him soooooooooo much for that and then he pulled this shit.

    He earned his way back into the NFL through the University of West Alabama even though they list him from OSU.

    +8
    -2
    Rating: +6. From 10 votes.
    Please wait...
  5. Are you out of your mind? Obviously you know nothing about politics and business. Do you think for a minute Darcie Glazer would allow that? Did you not see her in the picture taken with Arians and the family? Yea that’s a good idea, let’s alienate all the women fans. Dude you are not a businessman. You never will be if you come up with crap like this. On video is another Ray Rice. He will never play football again. What a dumb comment. Stick to what you know. Xs and Os and nothing else

    +15
    -17
    Rating: -2. From 32 votes.
    Please wait...
    • Buc76 Hunt will be in the NFL again. Ray Rice was already on his downward slide. If and that’s a big If Hunt is getting the help he needs and shows it in the community he will be fine and I would like to have him in Tampa.

      +1
      0
      Rating: +1. From 1 vote.
      Please wait...
  6. I think Brent Grimes is a turd after his podcast revelations. But, to say that Licht made a mistake signing him in the first place is a bigger load of turd. I call BS on that. The way Grimes played for the Bucs in the first few years was a breath of fresh air. There wasn’t a corner since Ronde and BK that opposing QBs had to fear until Brent put the pewter and red on. He literally locked down one side of the field. You can crap on him for this past season and his comments, but to play the hindsight game is pretty lame. Signing Brent was a great move. Convincing him to come out of retirement was the mistake. But, I am so glad we are done with him. Either he was never a team player or the losing culture just wore thin. It doesn’t really matter. For a player to call out a coach by name is a hypocritical thing to do as players literally melt down after being called out in the media.

    +24
    -2
    Rating: +22. From 26 votes.
    Please wait...
  7. Kareem Hunt – all I’ll say about your analysis is that you should not compare violence against anyone to smoking marijuana. One is, always has been and always will be both illegal and unacceptable in every corner of society….the other is now legal (to varying extents) in 33 States plus DC.

    On the projected DLine…that’s roughly $15 million of cap space used for back-up linemen. Yes, backups are necessary – but $15m is a lot for a team that will be seeking some cap space.

    Finally, I couldn’t agree more with your comments of good riddance to Jackson and Grimes – I understand why the team brought them in and retained them, but clearly 2 more major mistakes by Jason Licht.

    +22
    -2
    Rating: +20. From 24 votes.
    Please wait...
  8. Kareem Hunt is an incredible talent at the RB position, and as much as anyone here can see that, so could the Chiefs who of all teams were in the midst of a playoff and potential Super Bowl run when they cut him for repeatedly punching and attacking people.

    To have a player of Hunt’s ability at RB would be incredible for this team and chance how the offense is played and how opposing defenses scheme against the Bucs. But the team still must do their diligence on Hunt and his character before they signed him. It wasn’t a good look for the Bucs when Jameis got banned from Uber and lied about his whereabouts resulting in a 3 game suspension. Jason Licht knew his history at FSU and still gave forgiveness in taking him 1st overall. That hasn’t been a shining example of redemption yet and as much as any fan should want an on the field player like Kareem Hunt, the organization will have to live with his actions off of it and weigh it before they sign him.

    I’m all for Kareem Hunt in Pewter if investigators and psychologists can say with some degree of confidence that Hunt isn’t a walking time bomb. Aaron Hernandez was talented too and way overperformed his draft slot but the Patriots likely regret taking him in the 4th round.

    Also, while Scott is right that Hunt attacking a woman he wasn’t intimately involved with does not meet the definition of domestic violence, Greg Hardy was very much charged with domestic violence when Scott wrote that the Bucs should sign him. It not only was a poor choice for the Cowboys but it is a concerning theme for the writer. As any smoker can tell you, tough habits are hard to break.

    https://www.pewterreport.com/srs-fab-5-bucs-should-summon-the-kraken-johnson-a-bust-from-the-start/

    +5
    -8
    Rating: -3. From 13 votes.
    Please wait...
  9. THE excuse Giants have for trading JPP was he does not work in 3 -4 defence Now Bucs have 3-4 where does that leave J P P ?

    +1
    -11
    Rating: -10. From 12 votes.
    Please wait...
    • Bob, shut up already, man. Maybe read what Bowles and Arians are saying. Wait…… I realize now that I have contradicted myself. I told you to shut up AND to read. My bad, dude. Go on your little rants, I’m sure someone will be along shortly to put the straw in your Capri Sun and adjust your helmet for you. Oh, word of advice for everyone out there, DO NOT smell FUC-ASS-BOB’s finger

      +1
      -1
      Rating: 0. From 2 votes.
      Please wait...
  10. This is interesting – a poll was taken of NFL players of the most overrrated NFL QB. Number 1 was Kurt Cousins. He was followed by (in order): Eli Manning was the second-most overrated, while Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford, Tom Brady, Derek Carr, Andy Dalton, Dak Prescott, Jameis Winston and Sam Bradford had multiple votes as well.

    So Winston was 10th most overrated with Sam Bradford #11. They were all the QBs mentioned. Just interesting.

    +3
    -5
    Rating: -2. From 8 votes.
    Please wait...
    • Eli Manning will go into the Hall of Fame purely due to his 2 Super Bowl runs. While you have to respect the two championships against the Patriots, Eli has been anywhere from average to below average for his entire career. I generally agree with most of the players listed as overrated except for Brady and to a lesser extent Ryan. Flacco had the one super bowl, Stafford has been on losing teams for most of his career and padded his stats, Carr peaked early and has come back to earth, Dalton is Dalton, Prescott gets a ton of help from his line/RB, Jameis leads the NFL in turnovers since he entered the league and Bradford has basically stolen money for franchises for years based on his draft status.

      They also listed Cam Newton as most underrated which I disagree with. Cam was awful after that injury, single handedly giving the Bucs the win with 4 INT’s and 3 to Andrew Adams. While he is a better player than what he showed, like the above players he still has a lot of people who think he’s better than his results due to his championship at Auburn, draft status and early career success.

      +4
      0
      Rating: +4. From 4 votes.
      Please wait...
    • Tom Brady overrated? I find that a bit hard to swallow unless people think he’s a product of the system. But still, you can have a system, but if you can’t deliver then you can sink that system in a heart beat. I’m a huge Joe Montana fan, but with the number of trips to the SB that Tom has had, Tom will always be in the discussion of greatest QB to play the game for a very long time. He just needs to retire before he tarnishes his image. Learn from Brett Favre.

      +3
      -2
      Rating: +1. From 5 votes.
      Please wait...
      • Yep, ever good QB is a product of his system.

        0
        -1
        Rating: -1. From 1 vote.
        Please wait...
  11. I had a similar thought about Hunt & Arians but was reminded by someone that Mrs. Arians is VERY involved in charities focused on abuse and violence towards women & children. Would highly doubt signing Kareem would get her approval.

    +12
    -1
    Rating: +11. From 13 votes.
    Please wait...
  12. I’m all for giving Hunt a second chance in Tampa. Where I would disagree is just signing him to a one year deal. He’ll be suspended maybe for half that time, so a cheap three year deal with no guaranteed money, and a clause where we can cut him if he gets in trouble again. Scott I have to disagree with you on our defensive personal fitting a 3- 4. I think David can play in it, but he’s at the end of his career, and has a high cap value. He also seems to get nicked up, and miss time somewhere along the way, that won’t lessen as he gets older. Kwon is undersized, and wasn’t headed for a pro bowl season before he blew out his ACL. He won’t be ready for OTA’s, maybe not training camp, or even the season. Add to the fact he’s a F.A. looking to get paid, with his knee, I wouldn’t pay him. Glanton, are you serious, not even sure he belongs in the NFL. Beckwith, how’s his health? How good will he be coming off all his injuries, he only had one decent rookie year. Remember he was injured coming out of college, wouldn’t count on him either. McCoy, please, how many more coaches can he out last before the Bucs realize he’s more of the problem then the solution. No way he has the kick ass mentality BA is looking for. When he apologized to Big Ben for tapping him down, I’D seen enough. We’ve been losing with these defenders for some time now, McCoy, and David leading the losing for years. Bowles, and BA are good coaches, but we’re making them out to be miracle workers, they’re not. I think we should look at what FA’s Bowles might want to sign from the Jets, or Cards, instead of thinking he’s going to fit his defense around our guys. Our guys have disappointed a whole host of coaches already.

    +1
    -13
    Rating: -12. From 14 votes.
    Please wait...
    • “He only had one decent rookie year”…… One rookie year? What happened to his second rookie year?

      0
      0
      No votes yet.
      Please wait...
  13. Defensive options: Henry Anderson RDE age 28 Jets, Sheldon Richardson RDT age 28 Jets, Deone Bucannon ILB age 27 AZ, Avery Williamson ILB age 26 Jets, Neville Hewitt ILB age 25 Jets, Jeremiah Atlaochu OLB age 28 Jets, Markus Golden OLB age 28 AZ, Brandon Copeland OLB 27 Jets, Morris Claiborne CB age 27 Jets, Buster Skrine CB age 30 Jets. I know Buc fans fall in love with their own, I don’t always get it, but you do. Expect some of these players to be suiting up for the Bucs this year, and expect some of your old lovers to be sent packing. Want to change the culture, want to win, or do you want to hope that the same losing players are all of a sudden going to win because they have a new coach?

    +7
    0
    Rating: +7. From 7 votes.
    Please wait...
    • R u n buc-ass related?

      +2
      0
      Rating: +2. From 2 votes.
      Please wait...
    • G McCoy is probably gone due to cap considerations. I wouldn’t be too surprised if Curry was gone. If we can get to at least $70 million under the cap, I can see a few of those players you listed being signed. A lot is going to depend upon how Hargreaves and Alexander bounce back from their season-ending injuries. I think Hargreaves showed vast improvement in the opener against NO in September, and I would expect that improvement to carry over given complete recovery. Alexander’s as tough as they come, so I’m expecting him, God-willing, to be out there in pads in August.

      If Alexander doesn’t bounce back physically, would Minter rate as well as those MIKEs you listed? Hargreaves would probably be the easier of the two to replace, but I don’t see Licht giving up on Alexander or Hargreaves unless it’s for health reasons.

      0
      -1
      Rating: -1. From 1 vote.
      Please wait...
      • GMC has only experienced losing. I’d offer him a two year deal that would pay as much in total as his deal for next year, with the carrot being a chance to play in the playoffs.

        We don’t have a ton of experienced professionals on the roster. Those are needed as example setters in the Arians Era Of Accountability. Let GMC decide, if he wants to go elsewhere so be it.

        +1
        0
        Rating: +1. From 1 vote.
        Please wait...
  14. Fab 1/5: Kareem Hunt is a solid RB who deserves a second chance, but I’m not sure a party city like Tampa is a good fit. I won’t argue his production or counter system vs player by extrapolating D. Williams production in KC in Hunt/Ware’s absence. His family concerns documented above by “Buc Stops Here” are also eye opening.

    Fab 2: Defense is transitioning to a 3-4? But is it? It seems clear that they’re gonna be in nickle 70% of the time. That wasn’t the only commitment by BA. He said they will attack to the players strengths. Balt Ravens beaten by LAC defense that put 7 DB’s on the field at one time for 58 of 59 snaps. That defied conventional wisdom since Baltimore is a running team, not a passing team. Defying conventional wisdom is how you create the gap between your team and other teams in the league.

    Fab 3: Press conference and coaching adds. Big staff makes a ton of sense. Developing young players in today’s NFL is harder considering CBA guidelines. This two field practice is defying conventional wisdom and will likely be copied around the league. Tip of the cap to BA for the concept. Brilliant. Another great aspect is cap control. The team won’t have to overpay free agents.

    Fab 4: DJax, Grimes and other bad fits or moves. DJax signing took young players who were developing solid rapport within the offense(Winston/Evans/Brate/Hump/Godwin) and put their growth on the sideline for a one dimensional player who has always been a diva/prima donna. Taking the top off the defense should set up the run and help provide balance by keeping the defense honest, except Koetter didn’t do that. Instead, the team kept banging its collective head against the wall to manufacture explosives. I always thought Grimes was always a band aid brought in to play and groom his replacement because of his experience in Mike Smith’s defense. Fail. I love the accountability that will be required to be on the team moving forward.

    +6
    -1
    Rating: +5. From 7 votes.
    Please wait...
  15. So whar you are saying BucStopsHere is criminality is inherited and passed along in your genes and DNA just like diabetes or ALS.
    Scientists, all over the world. are laughing hysterically at you along with me.
    Look up and see what one of the biggest criminals in the history of the United States history, Jessie James’ son became when he grew up.
    You undoubtedly took a science class with Donnie Trump.
    Not only is your line of thinking moronic, it is also unAmerican.
    In this country, sir, you are born with a clean slate and you aren’t judged by your parents or relatives trangressions.
    America is also the land of second chances, which I too, believe in.
    God bless America

    +1
    -9
    Rating: -8. From 10 votes.
    Please wait...
    • Not DNA; environmental. PC bs.

      +4
      0
      Rating: +4. From 4 votes.
      Please wait...
    • Drdneast.
      It’s tough being a lefty liberal these days. I’m with you all the way with your prognosis about how we are born fresh as babes in the woods. Unfortunately that is where your statement falters. Of course it matters who your parents are. Try getting a fair shake being born with dark skin. It’s a crapshoot just to get by let alone thrive. Take it from me, and I’m the whitest guy you will ever meet, I get sun burned shopping at Wal-mart.
      I wish Kareem all the best, but he’ll be better off somewhere other than Tampa. Just way to much strife and change will be happening to have a project like him.
      GO BUCS

      +2
      -1
      Rating: +1. From 3 votes.
      Please wait...
  16. So much to like about all this. Hopefully it’s more than hearsay this time. My favorites are the two practice fields for vets and rookies. I’ve also complained so many times with former regimes because they take players who are gifted at a position and then move them somewhere else. It’s drove me crazy for years stunting growth I believe. Especially when a clown like Warhop is supposedly training your rookies in new positions they never played in college. I’m extremely excited for the upcoming year. On the Kareem hunt topic, this one is a tough call for me so I’ll just say that if he’s here in Tampa, awesome! If not, oh well. Great fab 5

    +5
    -1
    Rating: +4. From 6 votes.
    Please wait...
    • If Hunt keeps his nose clean in Tampa, all will be forgiven. He’s too talented a RB to not seriously consider adding to this roster.

      +4
      -1
      Rating: +3. From 5 votes.
      Please wait...
  17. Good riddens LOUDMOUTH Miko and you’re dumbass husband, who made a fool of himself his last days here and no doubt because of you.

    +4
    0
    Rating: +4. From 4 votes.
    Please wait...
    • I wonder how long she’ll hang with without the $millions coming in?

      +4
      0
      Rating: +4. From 4 votes.
      Please wait...
  18. “Arians demands that players play hard every down and plans on holding them accountable. ”

    You hear that Donovan Smith? You’re going to play hard EVERY down or face the music.

    +7
    0
    Rating: +7. From 7 votes.
    Please wait...
  19. 76Buc, than you and I agree.
    Criminality has nothing to do with your heredity but as you said, is much more environmental.
    If you grow up and around criminals, it is much more likely you will be a criminal.
    If you look at what Hunt obviously grew up around, it speaks volumes about his character that he didn’t follow the same path.
    I also agree with you about Miko. As soon as the money stops rolling in, Miko will roll out of her marriage with Grimes. She has all the characteristics of a credit card diva.
    I loved the video of her getting arrested in Miami with her face being grated against the pavement. Hilarious.
    I am confused about your remark about PC. What exactly were you referring to.
    I have no problems with being PC. it is just a catch phrase for people to use who don’t want to be polite and would rather be rude and obnoxious.
    You know, someone like Donnie Trump who doesn’t show respect for war hero’s, the parents of fallen soldiers who have died defending this great nation and the crippled and infirmed.

    +3
    -1
    Rating: +2. From 4 votes.
    Please wait...
  20. Finally got to watch the Arians presser and I’m even more excited now! I haven’t been this excited since we signed DJax…hopefully this will yield better results and I think it will. Change has to come from the top and from what I’m seeing and Arians is saying, it’s coming!

    The Hunt issue is a sensitive one but I could get onboard with a low-risk prove it deal. We all know his stock is as low as it will probably get at the moment so if we strike, we should strike now. This will save another draft pick and give us a proven commodity instead of another college back who we get excited about only to ultimately be disappointed again ala Rojo (it’s still early and he may turn the ship around, especially with a hopefully improved o-line.)

    I have great news on the 3-4 scheme fits. I started a new season in Madden 19 and changed to Todd Bowles defense and it works out GREAT! Everyone knows Madden is 100% accurate so our defense will be fine. I kid of course, but on a real note, we have great players in our front 7 and they should be able to adjust to the scheme. One of the biggest takeaways from the presser was that most teams are in nickel defense a lot of the time anyway so that won’t be much of a change for our players. If anything, it would just change the way we scout future players but our current roster will be fine.

    I think we will see the best Jameis we have ever seen under “the QB whisperer” and it will unlock our offense’s full potential. Arians also brings with him a reputation of accountability which has been lacking from this franchise for quite some time now. Cleaning out the locker room is a huge priority and I think Bruce is just the type of coach we need to get it done. I’ve been pretty happy with Arians’ staff selections so far, aside from the fact that I would’ve liked to keep Monken and Duff on…maybe even Buckner (although I think most of our Dline’s success this year was due more to JPP than Buck.) I’m looking forward to our inaugural season under Arians!

    +2
    -2
    Rating: 0. From 4 votes.
    Please wait...
  21. I was more on board with bringing in Hunt before I watched his ESPN interview. I assume the one linked is from over a month ago, the first (maybe only) one he did. I really didnt think it helped him out. It seemed as though his agents gave him 4 things to say and he stuck to the script. It didn’t seem genuine or particularly honest.

    He is already fired at that point, why not speak honestly about that night and apologize. “It was late, I had been drinking which was stupid to begin with and this girl got my temper by using racial slurs. That doesn’t excuse shoving her then giving her a kick and I am sorry for my actions and the example I have set.”

    Instead he just mumbles on about rehab courses that seemed bogus and whatever else, that again, came off very… unapologetic. If I just got a bad read and he is a decent guy just slips up like the rest of us… sign him, hell of an RB!

    +3
    0
    Rating: +3. From 3 votes.
    Please wait...
  22. Buc stops here post is the type of article SR should have written. Talk about tone deaf.

    +1
    0
    Rating: +1. From 1 vote.
    Please wait...