FAB 5. SR’s Buc Shots

Bucs DT Gerald McCoy and the Reynolds kids
Bucs DT Gerald McCoy and the Reynolds kids

• Think what you will about whether Tampa Bay defensive tackle Gerald McCoy was a great player or whether he was overrated, one thing that cannot be in question was how much McCoy cared about being a Buccaneer, cared about his teammates and cared about the Tampa Bay community. Over the last nine years I enjoyed a good relationship with McCoy, who is kind of a complex individual, and I mean that in a good way.

We butted heads a few times over the years, but I’ll never forget the NFL lockout in 2011 when McCoy and quarterback Josh Freeman got all of the players together for a coach-less mini-camp down at the IMG Academy in Bradenton and took over the coaching duties for the other defensive linemen – despite just coming off his rookie season. So impressive for such a young player at the time.

But most importantly, I’ll remember McCoy, the man, as one of the most fan-friendly Buccaneers of all-time. He would stay an hour after practice, signing autographs and taking pictures with kids, including my own, as you see in this picture.

McCoy even came out and spoke to the South Pasco Predators Pop Warner football team that I coached a few years ago. He was very generous with his time and I really enjoyed our talks about Marvel comics and movies, and Big 12 football. We even bet on a couple of K-State vs. Oklahoma football games over the years.

Bucs DT Gerald McCoy and the South Pasco Predators
Bucs DT Gerald McCoy and the South Pasco Predators

One year he had to wear a purple Wildcats hat when K-State upset the Sooners in Norman. The next year, McCoy gave me an ugly OU hat and maroon t-shirt to wear around the locker room to his delight and return the favor when the Sooners prevailed in Manhattan.

McCoy is just a really good guy – one of the best men to put on a Bucs uniform, and so well deserving of the Bucs’ Man of the Year honors last year.

He’s the kind of guy I’ll be rooting for wherever he lands in the NFL. McCoy wanted to make the playoffs so bad in Tampa Bay that I really hope he gets to experience the postseason this year with his new team. He deserves it.

McCoy gave a lot of his time to me, and to the PewterReport.com staff over the years – after games, after practices, in the locker room and on the phone. I greatly appreciate his time and the class with which he represented himself and his beloved Buccaneers.

Thanks, Gerald.

• While I’m sad to see Gerald McCoy go to another team because he was always great with the media, I’m also interested to see how Ndamukong Suh operates in Tampa Bay, and if his reputation for being a bad guy is actually true or not. As a reporter, it will be fascinating to learn about this complex new Buccaneer.

One of the interesting things about his nasty reputation is that he is also one of the most charitable athletes around. Read this article from Business Insider to find out more about the newest Buccaneer.

Here is an ESPN report that also shows another side of Suh and his penchant for charitable giving.

And the guy has a pretty good sense of humor, from what I’ve been told. Here’s a video of Suh at practice with the Los Angeles Rams last year poking fun at his reputation for being a dirty player when it comes to sacking quarterbacks.

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• Believe it or not, Lavonte David has 21.5 sacks in his Tampa Bay career, which ranks him second all-time for Buccaneers linebackers ahead of Derrick Brooks (13.5) and Shelton Quarles (13), and trailing only Broderick Thomas, who had 26.5 sacks from 1989-93. With six more sacks, which could come this year with a big season in Todd Bowles’ new defense, David becomes the most prolific blitzing linebacker in Bucs history and adds to his legacy in Tampa Bay.

• ALL HITS – NO FILLER! The Pewter Reporters recorded the latest Pewter Nation Podcast, which is presented by Chris Garrido of Westshore Financial, after Tuesday’s Bucs OTA practice and talked about what they saw, as well as the departure of Bucs defensive tackle Gerald McCoy and the arrival of new defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh. We packed so much Bucs news and insight into this edition, you can’t miss it!

Bucs DT Ndamukong Suh
Bucs DT Ndamukong Suh

I told the story about how former Bucs head coach Raheem Morris called me up and was angry that I put Ndamukong Suh on the cover of our Pewter Report 2010 Bucs Draft Preview instead of Gerald McCoy. Listen to the podcast for all the details.

Click here to listen to Pewter Nation Podcast Episode 122: End Of The McCoy Era

And if you missed last week’s episode, you can right that wrong by clicking here for last week’s report on the Buccaneers’ initial OTA practice of 2019 as myself, Mark Cook, Taylor Jenkins and producer Matt Matera sound off with our insights and opinions after watching the practice, which was held at the indoor facility due to inclement weather.

Click here to listen to Pewter Nation Podcast Episode 121: The Great Wizard Bruce

There is no better time to listen to a new Pewter Nation Podcast than on your drive home from work on Friday or running around doing errands or at the gym on Saturday. The next Pewter Nation Podcast will be taped next Tuesday following the team’s OTA practice.

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• New Bucs defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh has a reputation for being a dirty player. Here are some of his dirtiest hits, stomps and cheap shots throughout his career.

• And if you want even more analysis on the arrival of Tampa Bay’s new defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and the departure of Gerald McCoy, watch this video report that I did with WFLA sports anchor Dan Lucas for News Channel 8 on Tuesday afternoon.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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Alldaway 2.0

What people don’t realize about Suh is that he is a very cerebral player and he can make adjustments on the fly if a defensive play doesn’t go according to plan. Simply put Suh is a pure football player that you can line up anywhere on the line as a mismatch piece. Whether it is a 3 technique, nose tackle, 5 technique or even as a wide 9 LEO Suh will rush the passer or find the ball carrier. He has the quickness and strength to beat 1 on 1 blocks. But Suh’s patience and intelligence has not been reported… Read more »

BUC-ASS-BOB

I do not know very much about Suh on paper he is good D Lineman which is needed alot without JPP and McCoy.
I just ask why no one else wanted him what do they know that Bucs don’t?
I can not make educated comment because I do not know the answer.

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chetthevette

Your last sentence sums up most of your posts. But we are all impressed that you are making an attempt at constructing them.
GO BUCS

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Captain Sly

Scott, I appreciate you always putting a positive spin on things but Suh was always and I mean always the back up plan. They could have signed Suh right after the Super Bowl but decided to wait on Mccoy all the way til the end of May before making this move. So no this was not always the plan but it could very well work to be good for us considering the $$ factor. Let’s just hope as Bucs fans that Suh shows up “hungry” and eager to lead this young crop of talent that’s here and turn this ship… Read more »

SenileSenior

Scott

Another good article. I will hold off my further comments for awhile. I’ll digest yours.

Except for this one. The injury to Perriman just might open the door a little further for Scotty Miller. He is much smaller but also has blazing speed. He has already shown he has great hands according to reports. He had better jump on this opportunity.
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Go Bucs!!!

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Captain Sly

I enjoyed going down memory lane with the Hardy Nickerson comparison you’re right about him. He was the first Buccaneers in Nike commercials shown ripping the face mask off of running backs and shown trying to knock the chest off Wideouts. No doubt Brooks and Lynch benefited from him because he brought the heat every Sunday.

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twspin

I hope you are right for our sake here Scott. But Suh plays for Suh. Always has..always will. Trust me, after the one yr deal. Buc fans are want to throw this guy to the wolves. Yes, he will flash and play good in spurts.
He’s not consistent..well he is..in penalties! We will see here shortly.But don’t expect sacks from this guy. He is a run stuffer though. I’m still not sure we gained a lot with him. Only time will tell.

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plopes808

He’s got more sacks than GMC in their respective careers, he’s also played more games, snaps, and has more tackles. At a $3 million discount, I’d say we walked away winners in this deal

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BigSombrero

A couple of thoughts on why Suh landed in Tampa Suh wasn’t picked up by other teams because: 1. He’s 32. 2. Expensive short term solution. His compensation was 3x a 1st round draft pick last year. 3. There was a ton of talent in a deep d-line draft this year. 4. Some think he started too slow last season and they were waiting for his price to drop. and/or maybe… 5. He didn’t want them. HE chose Tampa because HE wanted to play for Bowles in Tampa. If his market was set at $10 million, why not play in… Read more »

seat26

Excellent Pick up even if it is only for one year.

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BigSombrero

@twspin Penalties is an interesting comparison. In 2018… McCoy played 14 games and had 4 penalties accepted for 30 yards and 3 out of 4 occured at home. Roughing the Passer(1), Illegal Use of Hands(1), Neutral Zone Violation(1), Defensive Offsides(1) Suh played in 19 games(including playoffs) and had 6 penalties accepted(1 declined) for 53 yards and only 1 out of 7 occured at home. Roughing the Passer(2), Neutral Zone(3), Defensive Holding(2) So the difference is 2 penalties for 23 yards, but the guy played in 5 more games than McCoy. http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/n-suh-los-angeles-rams?year=2018 Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet.… Read more »

BigSombrero

@twspin Penalties is an interesting comparison. In 2018… McCoy played 14 games and had 4 penalties accepted for 30 yards and 3 out of 4 occured at home. Roughing the Passer(1), Illegal Use of Hands(1), Neutral Zone Violation(1), Defensive Offsides(1) Suh played in 19 games(including playoffs) and had 6 penalties accepted(1 declined) for 53 yards and only 1 out of 7 occured at home. Roughing the Passer(2), Neutral Zone(3), Defensive Holding(2) So the difference is 2 penalties for 23 yards, but the guy played in 5 more games than McCoy. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet. Please… Read more »

plopes808

I haven’t watched him closely but it seems like Suh is one of those guys who’s reputation may be overblown. He does have a few blatant penalties for stomping QBs and such, but I think BA will keep him in check. He’s much more Sapp than GMC will ever be as far as playing style.

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Spitfire

Suh / Vea / Nelson Nassib / David / White / Barrett Our Front 7 may not have a ton of Depth but the Suh addition really does look like an upgrade and solidified our front. The cheap shots from Suh always turned me off of him but it seems he’s improved in that area since then and watching tape of him even last year and he is still as fast as ever and quick and still plays hard. I’m excited to see what he can still do. I feel like we have the right staff to handle someone like… Read more »

BigSombrero

My favorite Buc for the last 7 years has been #54. I am stunned every year when he turns in another massive season, only to be snubbed by All-Pro and Pro Bowl voters. I love hearing the Bucs finally plan on using him like Schiano did. That was a great season for David, even with the few boneheaded mistakes(DONT HIT GENO GOING OUT OF BOUNDS!!)

Hopefully it leads to some really big plays, big wins and some well deserved recognition finally!

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BucFan circa76

Good feedback on penalty history of Suh/McCoy by BigSombrero. Surprisingly close, as were many of their defensive stats. That’s where the similarities end. Suh will not be apologizing to QB’s and/or helping them up after a knockdown, to me that’s a big plus in the Suh column. I like the one year deal, he will be motivated to earn another big contract in 2020, either here or elsewhere. I applauded Licht for locking McCoy up in 2014 for a long term deal, but I wonder if GMC would have had a more productive 2018 season if it had been a… Read more »

buclover1988

9.5 million is a lot better than paying 13.5 million. A 4 million dollar difference. I’ll take my chances with suh. No risk it no biscuit right? As for David, the pro bowl should no longer be an indicator of hof status, especially for someone whose the nfls most snubed player. David still looks like the player Tampa drafted out of Nebraska and plays at an all Pro level week in and week ouy, season after season. When it’s all said and done, I expect David to be in our ring of fame and if he continues to produce the… Read more »

scubog

The logic of Buc Ass Bob is truly comical. “Why no one else wanted him (Suh)?” Really? I suppose the same reasoning could be applied to all potential draftees who were still available. Why did no one select Sapp or Brooks in 1995 until those Bucs did? When GMC ultimately signs with another team, I suppose their fans could dispel the acquisition and ask why even the lowly Bucs didn’t want him. I suppose if you are thinking about marrying a woman, to whom no one else proposed, you should reconsider. Perhaps this has been in the works for longer… Read more »

nitey

While changing out McCoy for Suh appears to be a money move, I think that McCoy just didn’t fit into what Bowles wants to do on defense. Suh is very good against the run and I believe that Vea also showed similar traits late last season. To me, it looks like we are going to play to contain the run and let the linebackers be the disruptive players off the edge and via the blitz. In this scheme, McCoy, whom doesn’t play the run as good as Suh and is more of a pass rusher isn’t as good a fit.… Read more »

BUC-ASS-BOB

I can’t help it I have to ask this question are 31 NFL teams wrong and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the pewter boys correct no other team was interested at any price in Bruce Arians or Suh Tampa Bay Buccaneers don’t want Gerald McCoy but 10 other teams are jumping at him have to ask who’s right and who’s wrong 31 NFL teams for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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plopes808

I’m seriously questioning that there are 10 teams out there that even have the cap space to pickup GMC. 10 “interested” teams doesn’t necessarily mean there are 10 realistic landing spots.

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Buc stops here

“Of the two, Suh has always had the upper hand with the exception of one more Pro Bowl berth by McCoy during their NFL careers.” Uh, no. Last two years, who had more sacks, McCoy or Suh? You might be surprised to learn that McCoy had more. McCoy was credited with 6 each year, Suh, 4.5 each year. QB Hits? Suh had 19 last year and 12 the year before, McCoy had 24 and 21. They are both very good players, and both are in decline now and believe it or not, McCoy the last two years has outperformed Suh… Read more »

Buc stops here

Who is valued more in the NFL, McCoy or Suh? The answer is in the money – McCoy. The offers are already coming in for McCoy and are up to $11 million already. I really hope the Bucs know what they are doing going for primarily a run stopper now rather than a pass rusher.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-gerald-mccoy-drawing-interest-from-10-teams-offers-reaching-dollar11-million-a-year/ar-AABQbzs?li=BBnb7Kz

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chetthevette

2010 was really he first year that I followed the draft. That is directly related to Suh. I was definitely bummed that the lions snagged him.
That being said, he should be an upgrade over GMAC.
It will be an interesting season.
GO BUCS

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BucRy

Honestly, this far into the offseason with training camp just around the corner this move is worth the risk. he’s only on for a one year deal so might as well just use up some of that freed up cap space for a guy like him. It’s not like there were other big names left out on the street..if it doesn’t work out, we just simply move on.

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BucRy

We also don’t really know how McCoy would fair playing in the 3-4..Suh had that experience under his belt.

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bucballer

Hey Scott… “Suh plays like an island warrior”. How does an “island warrior” play? You mean like a savage? Poor analogy! You can/should do better than that Scott! I’m just saying…

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Captain Sly

I am pretty sure he was using that illustration to describe Vita Vea from the Samoan Islands

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a-bomb

The value here (aside from the actual money) is the versatility Suh brings. GMC really does one thing- he is a penetrating 3 tech. Suh can play multiple positions on the line and Bowles system is all about multiples- multiple fronts and multiple positions. The main problem with the system of Mike Smith (and Lovie Smith for that matter) is that the were amazingly predictable. In this league, if you don’t make the QB take an extra half second or so to process what you are doing you are going to be toast. This is what we saw the last… Read more »

Buc-Up

Yes, Lee Roy Selmon helped players up after plays like McCoy did. The difference was that Lee Roy was more tenacious when the ball was snapped. He fought through double and triple teams to get to the person with the ball. He was a gentle giant that struck fear into his opponents! I don’t remember Lee Roy going stat less in a game like McCoy has done numerous times. McCoy does deserve to eventually be in the Ring of Honor, but not before Hardy Nickerson, Simeon Rice and James Wilder. Personally, I don’t think the Bucs should reserve numbers unless… Read more »

Spitfire

Bucballer, taking the term Island Warrior and relating it to being a “Savage” is you’re prejudice not Scott’s or anyone else’s. When I think of an “Island Warrior” I think of a proud fighter that gives everything he has to fight for his people and his home.

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plopes808

As an “island warrior” myself I just wanted to say that I took no offense to the reference SR lol. I interpreted the reference as much more “Max Holloway” than “savage.”

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pinkstob

I don’t think Suh moves the needle in terms of wins and losses for this team so I don’t care much about switching McCoy for Suh. I do believe we overpaid for Suh as I said before he was only worth $7 million. As a reminder, I said we overpaid for Grimes last year also by several million dollars as soon as the deal was made.

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EastEndBoy

meh

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bucballer

Barring an injury… Suh will help this Buc defense! He adds some nastiness which had been lacking! Go Bucs!

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Captain Sly

As far as the W-L I’m going to agree with you there . Their career #’s are crazy similar and so its a matter of what flavor you crave Vanilla or Chocolate, but you’re still getting the same amount Ice Cream.

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plopes808

I agree somewhat…but what people are missing is that we have a new DC with a new scheme. Bowles’ scheme calls for run stopping D-Linemen rather than pass rushers. Pass rush come more from the blitz so in that sense, Suh is a better fit. When you factor in the attitude he brings, I’d say he’s a much better fit. Of course this is with the assumption that BA can reign him in just enough to avoid stupid penalties. I believe he will, or Suh will not be on the field. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet.… Read more »

cgmaster27

Pink my dude, I think everyone in the room knew we overepaid for Grimes last year. That wasnt hard to see.

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BucFan circa76

Brent Grimes who?? He’s dead to me, and oh btw, still a free agent……imagine that?

Scott, thanks for the comparison on David’s first 7 seasons with those of HOF Derrick Brooks (my all-time fave Buc). Brooks became a HOF LB starting with his 8th season and onward. Hopefully David will get some playoff exposure and flourish in Bowles new aggressive defense scheme.

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owlykat

You will remember last year teams were aiming their RBs right at the hole where McCoy ran through trying to get to the QB and oblivious of the RB with the ball. It was rediculous. Suh will rush the QB with less of a get off and will take down the RB. Once we stop the run we will turn our rushing DEs and OLBs after the QB or use an occasional creative blitz. We will be able to ignore the handoff fakes to the RB.

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Ron Potter

Maybe it’s a little too easy to say that Suh “brings a needed edge” in light of McCoy’s lack of “edge” because of their personality differences but I do agree with it to an extent. I find McCoy to be lacking in his “desire to win” or in contrast, his “hate for losing” while here. This year was the first year GMC has attended a Super Bowl game and it’s being reported that McCoy is expressing a renewed vigor in order to get to that big game. Where was that McCoy while here? Why didn’t he ever attend a Super… Read more »

Bucnut2

The Suh Mccoy swap is a non event. The issue is that this team has little talent and is in salary cap hell. How anyone can defend Licht is totally beyond me. His drafts have sucked and his free agent moves are worse. Even a very talented coaching staff will not be able to turn this bunch of misfits into winners. 6 wins at best, tons of excuses about the schedule, a high draft pick and (hopefully) a new GM await us in 8 months. JW is part of the problem and needs to go. My preference is this; let’s… Read more »

BUC-ASS-BOB

Bucanut got it 100% correct!!!!!

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Charlie

That video interview with Shelly is absolutely amazing, he’s gonna fight right into the community and we’re happy to have him! Go Bucs!

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BucFan circa76

Bucnut must be the illegitimate son of BucAssSlob (or perhaps husband of….). I thought for a moment it was the same person, but only one writes in English and with punctuation. That said, we are not in salary cap hell, and even if we were, Licht is not our “capologist”, Mike Greenburg is. The fact we could release GMC with 3 years remaining on his contract WITH NO DEAD CAP PENALTY is a testament to Greenburg for sure. Let’s not forget that we also cut Vinny Curry and traded DeSean Jackson WITH NO CAP PENALTY. Seems to me that our… Read more »

matador

When paying $10 mill for a 32 yr old DL with character issues instead of drafting a top 5 DL talent in a loaded draft goes down as a master stroke, it shows how much damage Licht’s cumulative mistakes have done. There is no logic based argument supporting his draft and FA record the last 6 yrs.

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BucFan circa76

Character issues?? Perhaps in his early days as a pro with the Lions…? At any rate, its been exhausting reading &/or hearing self-proclaimed “Bucs fans” dissect any & all negative aspects of McCoy’s nine-year career here. The most common was that he was too “soft”, too “nice” after plays were over, etc. Suh will never be accused of either, take it to the bank. The Bucs have hired the anti-GMC in Suh…..as long as he has McCoy’s work ethic and doesnt earn any game suspensions for stupidity, most fans will accept Suh’s “character issues” much like they did for Sapp,… Read more »