It’s time for PewterReport.com’s 2-Point Conversion post-game column, which features two statements, two questions and two predictions based on the latest Bucs game. Tampa Bay’s defense showed up, holding Washington to 286 yards and just 16 points, but the offense picked the wrong day to be absent. The Bucs scored just three points despite racking up 501 yards of total offense, but the Redskins defense forced four turnovers, which decided the outcome in a 16-3 Tampa Bay loss that was the Bucs’ third in a row.

2 BIG STATEMENTS

STATEMENT 1: Bucs Deserve Capital Punishment
In 2015, the Bucs blew a 24-0 halftime lead at Washington as the Redskins came back to claim a 31-30 victory. After that game, which was on October 26, I called for head coach Lovie Smith to be fired.

Ironically, I suggested that Dirk Koetter be hired as Smith’s replacement. I’m not necessarily calling for Koetter to be fired after a crushing, deflating 16-3 loss against the Redskins on Sunday.

I don’t have to do that, do I?

We all know how this is going to end, don’t we?

Koetter picked the wrong day to start calling plays again on offense. And that’s a punishable offense. The Bucs deserved to lose.

Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

“I called the plays today – the whole day,” Koetter admitted after the game as the offense racked up 501 total yards yet only scored three points as Chandler Catanzaro missed two more field goals and the offense committed four turnovers.

When asked after the game why Koetter decided to call plays on Sunday he said,
“Just my own reasons.”

After the game, Koetter said this is the first time this season that he has done the play-calling. I would strongly suggest it be the last.

The football gods certainly didn’t like the change-up on Sunday, and if I were Koetter I wouldn’t so much as pick up a play sheet and let Todd Monken handle the play-calling duties for the remaining seven games of the season.

Koetter had no answers after Sunday’s demoralizing defeat at the hands of the Redskins. He looked bewildered in his post-game press conference. He’s not sure how to get the 3-6 Bucs back on track. No one is.

He didn’t know if Chandler Catanzaro would remain the Bucs’ kicker (he won’t).

Koetter couldn’t say if Jameis Winston would start next week at New York when the Bucs travel north to play the Giants (he will).

Ryan Fitzpatrick did his best Winston impersonation on Sunday with two interceptions and a fumble – two of those turnovers came in the red zone, but at age 35, the FitzMagic has finally worn off and he’s clearly not the long-term answer. The Bucs organization – and that doesn’t necessarily mean Koetter and/or general manager Jason Licht – needs to give Winston one more look before swallowing hard and paying him $20.92 million in 2019.

Bucs GM Jason Licht and the Glazers - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs GM Jason Licht and the Glazers – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

I’m talking about the Glazers, of course. Because after Koetter and Licht are gone the Glazers will still be here, wondering if they can pick the right general manager to pick the right players and if they can pick the right head coach to develop the players and get them to win. I wonder that, too.

Not only was this loss to the Redskins capital punishment in terms of yet another defeat today – Tampa Bay’s third loss in a row – it may also be capital punishment in terms of the death penalty for this current regime. After another franchise-wrecking loss to Washington, it seems like Koetter is a dead man walking with just seven more Sundays left in Tampa Bay.

STATEMENT 2: The Bucs Are Indeed Cursed
I’ll admit I wrote something a little light-hearted in Friday’s SR’s Fab 5 when I stated that the Bucs are cursed. I was writing tongue-in-cheek about the supposed curses that have afflicted this franchise.

Turns out I was right and I didn’t fully realize it until around 4:00 pm on Sunday.

This franchise is cursed, or haunted or possessed. You pick.

It’s like the MRSA from the 2013 season hasn’t fully been eradicated from One Buccaneer Place. This isn’t the kind of infection that destroys flesh. This is the kind of infection that is born out of losing and infects the entire organization, unfortunately. It even infects players that were brought here to change the culture like DeSean Jackson, Beau Allen and Jason Pierre-Paul, who hasn’t shown up the last two weeks after starting the season with eight sacks in the first seven weeks. They all succumb to the losing.

How about six straight games without a takeaway on defense? I know that the defense hardly has any playmakers, but this is getting ridiculous, isn’t it?

Bucs RB Jacquizz Rodgers - Photo by: Mary Holt/PR
Bucs RB Jacquizz Rodgers – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

The Bucs were minus-four in the turnover margin on Sunday with Fitzpatrick accounting for two picks and a fumble, and Jacquizz Rodgers with the other Tampa Bay turnover – a fumble as former Bucs linebacker Mason Foster punched the ball out from behind. It traveled about 20 yards before being recovered in the end zone – by the Redskins, of course.

Now Tampa Bay is minus-18 in the turnover margin department.

MINUS-18. What a joke.

If Chris Godwin’s fourth quarter fumble wasn’t recovered by Rodgers – of all people – it would have been minus-19. That was karma, huh? Having Rodgers recover the loose ball after his own catastrophic fumble in the red zone? The football gods were just toying with the Bucs today and laughing at their futility.

Who happened to be at Raymond James Stadium today? Redskins head coach Jay Gruden, the brother of Jon Gruden, who was fired by the Bucs (see the Curse of Jon Gruden). And Washington general manager Bruce Allen, who was hired by Jon Gruden to be Tampa Bay’s G.M. in 2004, and was fired on the same day in January of 2009.

Former Bucs QB Doug Williams - Photo courtesy of the Buccaneers
Former Bucs QB Doug Williams – Photo courtesy of the Buccaneers

And let’s not forget former Bucs quarterback and personnel executive Doug Williams, who is the Redskins senior vice president of player personnel. The Doug Williams QB curse is still in effect, as I mentioned in SR’s Fab 5.

Gruden, Allen and Williams were all smiles as the Redskins and their depleted offensive line did enough to steal a win in Tampa Bay. And speaking of curses, the Curse of Matt Bryant is still in effect, evidenced by Chandler Catanzaro’s two missed field goals on Sunday, which brings us to the next section where I answer two probing questions.

2 PROBING QUESTIONS

QUESTION 1: Why Is Catanzaro Still On The Bucs?
Seriously – why? At what point does this organization lose faith in kicker Chandler Catanzaro? Fans lost confidence in him months ago. I lost faith in him weeks ago. He got a one-week reprieve by making all four of his extra points against Carolina I suppose, but only to miss a makeable 30-yard field goal in the second quarter against Washington.

Bucs K Chandler Catanzaro - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs K Chandler Catanzaro – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Catanzaro redeemed himself momentarily with a 33-yard field goal to tie the game at 3-3 right before halftime, only to return to his rightful place as one of the awful kickers in Tampa Bay’s lineage of … awful kickers.

The Bucs brought in Cairo Santos, but he’s had groin issues and there is some concern there and a reason why he remains unsigned at this point. Whoever it is, it shouldn’t be Catanzaro kicking field goals and extra points for Tampa Bay anymore. He simply can’t be trusted. Get him out of here.

QUESTION 2: Can The Bucs Reboot Their Entire Franchise?
I wish. If only Tampa Bay could enter franchise mode on Madden and reboot this mess of a football team. The Bucs are now 3-6, but it already feels like 3-13, doesn’t it?

Especially with their minus-18 turnover margin. Oh my God.

The problem isn’t just the head coach and the general manager. Those are easy fires for the Glazers to make if they want to make them. Cleaning house in the coaching staff and the front office is easier than cutting the entire roster.

But maybe the Bucs need to do that.

At this point, who on this roster is worth keeping? Jason Pierre-Paul? Mike Evans? O.J. Howard? Ali Marpet? Lavonte David?

Who are the truly untouchable players in Tampa Bay? It’s a very, very short list when you actually think about it.

Maybe it’s time to blow it up and start over? I mean truly over.

Not just regime change, but complete roster overhaul. Like purge this team of about 45 players. Maybe that would finally get rid of the losing culture.

Bucs LT Donovan Smith - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs LT Donovan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

How many players in Tampa Bay have experienced a winning season before? How many players truly know what it takes to win? Over half of the current Bucs have never been on a winning team in the NFL and simply don’t know how to win.

Do you feel comfortable re-signing left tackle Donovan Smith for the long haul? Do you feel comfortable paying Kwon Alexander millions of dollars coming off a torn ACL?

Is Ryan Fitzpatrick worth re-signing? Is Jameis Winston worth $20.92 million?
Who on this roster deserves to remain a Buccaneer the way they are playing? Is there any accountability?

Winston got benched, but how many turnovers over how many years did it actually take? How many sacks surrendered does it take for Smith to be benched? How many penalties and blown assignments does it take for Caleb Benenoch to be benched?

There is very little accountability in Tampa Bay, and this team is not nearly as talented as it thinks it is when it comes down to it. So if you want regime change, I would certainly take it a step further and make it a full on purge if this team winds up with double-digit losses.

2 BOLD PREDICTIONS

PREDICTION 1: Monken Resumes Play-Calling Duties Next Week
Todd Monken has to call plays at New York, right?

PREDICTION 2: Winston Leads The Bucs To A Loss Next Week
Pencil in a pair of interceptions and a Bucs loss. That’s what Winston does. But what’s new with this franchise?

 

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

38 COMMENTS

  1. I am used to new problems popping up for the cursed Bucs. Like the hydra, as soon as we fix one issue, something else pops up.
    What was unique about this week’s loss was that the Bucs brought back two problems they supposedly had solved. We fixed the offensive play calling, but today stupidly went back to the guy who admitted in preseason he shouldn’t be the play caller. And, then we lost due to bad kicking after we supposedly had tryouts to find a replacement for the guy nobody trusted.
    Two problems supposedly solved.
    Are we deliberately trying to lose?

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    • I say the Bucs keep the kicker. The next guy will be just as bad and want to end his career after kicking for Tampa. No new deals on this season.

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  2. Great article. This franchise is cursed. There is no doubt about that. The only way to break the curse is to get a management structure in place that actually knows player personnel. The team needs to be completely blown up and rebuilt. There should be no unmoveable players.

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  3. The only thing I think that would be more stupid then Dirk calling the plays today is taking a chance of getting Winston hurt.
    It time to bring the third string in and see how he does .
    Winston will not get 21 Mill next year unless he gets hurt this year.
    The season is over try Ryan Griffin give him some playing time he will be the back up next year so let him play
    nothing to lose.

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    • Look, no.

      Ryan Griffin is not a serious option. We’ve only had him for like 4 years at this point and we’ve have put him in if he was worth anything. It’s just not happening. Wouldn’t shock me in the slightest if Griffin goes after this year too.

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      • Griffin is koetter and lichts guy..doubt he’ll be a “steal”

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      • Griffin is not a serious option for what? What is serious about the entire franchise right now.

        BAB is totally correct that it would be the height of stupidity to bring back Winston to lose more games, and get him hurt (he is injury prone – missed three games and played injured in a couple more last year), and then his fifth year option being guaranteed only against injury, we get stuck paying $21M to a bad quarterback in the midst of a total rebuild of the franchise,

        Talk about pouring gasoline on the fire…

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        • If that’s the case Naples, just play Fitzpatrick and don’t even mention Griffin. If Ryan Griffin was worth anything we would have had him 2nd over Fitzpatrick in the first place. There’s zero point in “trying him out” because he’s just not a serious option.

          You might not like it, but we probably are going to keep Jameis next year anyway. And lol no, if you want injury prone go look at Mariota. Jameis has been good on that front.

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          • Dont bet on Winston being a Buc next season.

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  4. The only curse this team has is the management !!!

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    • OWNERSHIP!!

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  5. Honestly a roster overhaul might be exactly what’s needed but it’s soooo difficult to do. It would take years of work and it’s not something you can just quit in 2 years like we’ve done in the past. Do we have the stomach for it?

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    • Worst to first turnarounds are actually quite common in today’s NFL, they happen virtually every season. With the salary cap, shared TV revenues,and the draft .. it is not difficult to change over most of a team’s roster in even just one season. Whether the win total changes, however, is a function of how competent the team’s management is.

      Most people forget, but between McKay and Gruden, we changed out more than half of the team’s roster between 2001 (Dungy’s final season) and 2002. And won a Super Bowl in the process.

      That is not the standard, or the floor, but the ceiling is extremely high.

      More recently, look at the LA Rams. Hired a new head coach last year, In 2016, under the old regime, the Rams went 4-12, in last place in their division. In 2017 the new first year coach took them to 11-5 – worst to first – and a playoff run. This season, their third, the Rams remain in first place with a 9-1 record so far.

      You get these kinds of results when you have the right general manager who hires the right head coach and who picks the right players, both in the draft and in free agency and trades.

      But the current GM over five years has delivered us a record of 25-48, on track for another season of double digit losses.

      The bottom line is the bottom line.

      Hire the right guy at the top, and it all flows downhill from there. Quick turnarounds are not unusual at all in the NFL, if the franchise hires the right guy.

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  6. There is no curse! It’s poor everything! I don’t get it at all. The Players, Coaches, GM, Staff are all making good money and several are making many millions.
    What the heck is going on? The answer is: WHERE IS THE TEAM EFFORT!

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  7. I think the problem is multi-faceted. I think the biggest problem is that the Bucs play in the NFC South. The other three teams have better QBs and Coaching. So there is six games that the Bucs play every year that are difficult to win. I also think that good players do not want to go to Tampa to play. Not sure why.

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  8. The way I see it, is that there are some players worth keeping. I can’t say I’m opposed to an overhaul, you are right about that, but I’m sure there are some players on the team that just aren’t motivated under koetter, who can blame them at this point? A lot of these players have stood by koetter for a couple of years and still no playoff appearances..I do believe a lot of it is coaching at this point and think that with some players, the right coaching will get the best out of them. We saw how good the offense could be in the first 2 games, we have some pieces, but koetter just can’t figure out how to be a head coach.

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  9. There are more players than that worth keeping. Justin Evans, Beckwith, Ryan Griffin, Brate. Kwon is worth keeping. Godwin is clutch. Definitely worth keeping. Jackson is worth keeping. It is easy to be down on all the players on the team when the team is being coached poorly. Vea is worth keeping at least until we know if he can play or not. Justin Watson is worth keeping. Let’s not make the mistake of throwing out the Baby with the bathwater. But I guarantee you that if Licht is axed, we will lose some good players. And we could do better at GM, but we could do a lot worse too.

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    • Could do worse than 25-48 and a potential bust at the number one overall pick? In recent history who is worse seat26?

      Dominik was bad but at least had his top 5 pick make several Pro Bowls and earn a second contract with the team in McCoy. He also was hamstrung by the Glazer Babies with one off-season where Michael Koenen was the only signing of note.

      If you compare the money and draft picks Licht was given and the results he has come up with, literally no GM in Bucs history has managed to do worse. Culverhouse was notoriously cheap and you can’t win games when ownership won’t pay for players. Has there been any indication Licht had a limit on his checkbook for any off-season?

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      • Mike Evans
        Ali Marpet
        Kwon Alexander
        OJ Howard
        Beckwith
        Justin Evans
        Chris Godwin
        Free agents JPP, Curry, Grimes, Carl Nassib, Beau Allen.
        Jury is out on Vea, Carlton Davis, Justin Watson
        We can build around that.

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        • LOL @ Street Free agent Carl Nassib. You mean the guy who regularly plays over high second round pick Noah Spence? Yeah, that’s what a great draft pick looks like. But I do like that we signed him after the Browns decided they didn’t need him. Solid guy. Not one you build a team around though.

          Beau Allen?! 10 tackles and 0 sacks Beau Allen? Are you serious?!

          Kendell Beckwith had a good rookie year and is coming off a serious injury so I’d wait before I declare victory on him.

          Kwon is 50-50 at best to get a second contract after his ACL tear. Comparing this list to that of Rich McKay would be hilarious.

          Ali Marpet? 0.0 Pro Bowls and counting. I’m not holding my breath on this year being the first.

          Justin Evans? How’s our pass D looking so far? Good? No? Oh, well at least Justin Evans is picking off passes this year. He isn’t? Oh great. Another homerun selection.

          The Jason Licht franchise cornerstone list is essentially Mike Evans, a few more years of JPP and some middling to above average players at non skill positions. The franchise is set for years to come! Thanks Jason!!

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      • And remember, Licht is not coaching. He can bring all the talent in the world to Tampa, and without the right people on the sideline, it won’t matter.

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        • Coaching also doesn’t matter when the players suck. Also, when a GM picks sucky coaches, the guy who picks the sucky coaches is himself sucky.

          It takes quality personnel selection – both coaches and players – as well as coaches coaching, and players making plays, to produce success. Focusing on only one of the three is dumb.

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  10. Jameis had a penchant for turnovers and off the field problems when Licht took him number one overall.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick had a long NFL career throwing interceptions between his solid play when Jason Licht signed him.

    Roberto Aguayo was only making 80% of his kicks and had one blocked and returned for game losing TD his final year when Licht traded up in the second round to take him.

    Carlton Davis and MJ Stewart had gone most of their recent college careers without causing turnovers when Licht used two second round picks on them in the draft.

    Vinny Curry was averaging 3.5 sacks a year when Licht gave him a 3 year 27 million dollar contract.

    Ryan Jenson had never made a single Pro Bowl when Licht signed him to the most lucrative contract for a center in the NFL.

    The fact that these players did in Tampa what they did before Licht spent a ton of assets on them should suprise no one. It’s not a curse, it’s bad roster management by an incompetent GM.

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  11. You want to get rid of players? Then please can we start with Gerald McCoy. We haven’t won since he’s been here and the only mean streak he’s shown is with local media and not opposing players. Hell he apologized to Big Ben as he was tackling him. Second on the list is David. Week in and week out we’ve seen him miss tackles and be out of position. These 2 are supposed captains on our defense and yet they’re outplayed by Alexander and it’s obvious this defense is Kwon’s defense. They rise with Kwon and fall without him.
    On offense we need to get rid of Winston. He’s not the guy that we were hoping he would be and there’s no point in continuing with him as our starter. You want to finish out he year with him as QB then by all means go ahead, that just means better draft placement for us. Donovan Smith should go along with Dotson. Both players are not up to par and Dotson is a shell of his former self. It’s going to be hard going through an overhaul like this but so is sitting back and watching another year of mediocrity. If the Rams can figure things out then why can’t our Bucs?

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    • I agree that McCoy sets the wrong tone for the defence, I have always thought so. Frankly he’s too nice. Now you could say the same thing about Leroy Selmon, the ultimate gentleman, but he wasn’t too nice on the field.

      Sorry to harp back nostalgically, but give me #99 any day. I used to love it when Sapp would do his warm up drills right through the opposition ranks. Intimidation, yes, but it oozed attitude. The intensity and the accountability of that defense , was on an entirely different level. Lynch and Brooks, hitting and tackling anything that moved, we had one of the all-time great defenses, but Sapp set the tone.

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      • Nice vs. a-hole doesn’t matter when the ball is snapped. Only making plays matter. McCoy makes some plays, but not near enough to justify his salary, so he will be cut in the franchise rebuild.

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        • I always wondered how McCoy managed so many Pro Bowls. Probably because he’s nice to everybody. And can you blame DJax wanting to be traded? What a disappointment, our offense had so much promise, then laid an egg. They need to throw the long ball more often where he is a monster. But Koetter is clueless. Can’t believe his ego thought he would call better plays than Monken. Thank god for the Lightning!!

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  12. PREACH IT SCOTT!

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  13. Franchise rebuild, of course. It has to be.

    There is a core of players that obviously are keepers. And a complete rebuild will take probably a couple of years, but it should not be a decade long process either. The Baby Glazers and their hires have in stead been engaged in a decade long franchise destruction process .. and it worked! Hey, the Bucs ARE good at something – good at being bad.

    Don’t play Winston in practice or another down – put him on the inactive list. Someone might trade something for him, but probably not. Do NOT risk having to pay his lame ass $21M next season for an injury he incurs in the next 7 weeks. That would be the height of stupidity – but totally par for the course with this Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight.

    Go ahead and fire Koetter and Licht this week. The subs cannot do worse than they have done, and it will give the fans, at least, hope that something better might be coming. It would also give the Glazers some time to figure out that they need to step away from the franchise and let a professional manage it for them as PFO.

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  14. Only the defence needs to be completely blown up. Completely. I stated my case before.

    I don’t criticize Licht for offering big bucks to some players. When you are an undesirable location, you need an incentive.

    I suspect a major house cleaning will be Tampa Bay’s fate.

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  15. Yes, Scott. You do have to do it. You must call for Dirk Koetter’s firing now. Once we make a move committed to a winning culture (like firing Mike Smith for example), we must stay true to that commitment. Dirk Koetter isn’t getting fired JUST FOR YESTERDAY. Yesterday just puts the period on his sentence. Our time with Koetter has run its course. His decision to take play-calling duties over yesterday goes in the opposite direction of the winning culture we need. Red Zone offense was 60% with Monken calling the plays and yesterday it was 0%. An average game in the red zone yesterday would’ve beaten the Redskins. Koetter has no vision for a winning culture. He has no enthusiasm for a winning culture. He cannot lead this team and hanging on to him any longer from this day forward will continue to infect the minds of our players with a losing mentality. Licht needs to stay committed to the winning culture and to a winning mentality… he must be brave and strong with this decision… Koetter needs to go now. The in-house candidates for interim head coaching would do much better for the remainder of the season. Even in your own podcast you PR guys are calling him a dead man walking. We all see that too. Even the players. We must cut off the dead weight now. Koetter’s head and attitude are not in the right place. He has no vision. He has no answers for the challenges this team is facing. He keeps defaulting to offensive coordinator and even as OC he is not good with this roster as evidenced by red zone performance.

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  16. I don’t understand most of you guys. If you had been fans since the team has started you would remember we have always been one of the worst offenses. At times we have had better defenses but usually the wins were grind outs.
    My father went to the 9-0 loss to the rams (I still hate the rams).

    I LOVE the fact that we have a fun offense. Other than yesterday the bucs have been rolling. If we didnt give up three more turnovers to almost every team we would have won most of the games so far.

    I have NEVER EVER SEEN a bucs offense even SLIGHTLY this good. I really don’t want to get rid of Koetter and Monken and go back to 16 point games and wondering how we can score.

    Lets just get a top Defensive coordinator, get a couple free agent cornerbacks and get some confidence back on defense. We can score with anyone with this offense.

    I really wish Winston could keep turnovers down but looks like it’s not going to stop. Have to see what options come available after season.

    How about all of you tell me what Bucs teams in the past EVER had an offense better than this one??
    Go Bucs!

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    • That’s the point, though, dmbucs- Koetter made the decision to CHANGE that Offense that you so enjoyed earlier in the year…Yesterday was the result- felt like the old days. D actually shows up, and the Offense was offensive …

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  17. …and we flew down from Chicago and StL for that crap.😑

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  18. The Bucs have never been the same after Malcolm got sick and had to step away. His spoiled little boys have screwed up in every which way since then.

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  19. Why isnt Jason Licht getting ripped more right now for how bad this team is doing? This was suppose to be a management structure that was building through the draft. I looked up his picks since 2014. 7 out of 33 picks are ok, so 21% – What is even worse is seeing all the guys we missed out on that were drafted around these names. I would not call this building through the draft, but it wouldnt be so bad if we could hit on more than 20% of our free agent signings.

    2014:
    Mike Evans – sure
    Seferian Jenkins – gone
    Charles Sims – gone
    Kadeem Edwards – gone
    Kevin Pamphile – gone
    Robert Herron – gone

    2015:
    Jameis Winston – probably gone
    Donovan Smith – should be gone
    Ali Marpet – extended
    Kwon Alexander – maybe extended
    Kenny bell – gone
    Kaelin Clay – gone
    Joey Josefa – gone

    2016:
    Vernon Hargreaves – lol
    Noah spense – lol
    Roberto Aguayo – lol way gone
    Ryan Smith – lol
    Caleb Benenoch – lol
    Devante Bond – lol
    Dan Vitale – gone

    2017:
    OJ Howard – sure
    Justin Evans – sure
    Kendell beckwith – sure
    Jeremy McNichols – gone
    Stevie Tu’kolovatu – lol

    2018:
    Vita Vea – lol
    Ronald Jones – lol
    MJ Stewart – jury’s out
    Carlton Davis – sure
    Alex Cappa – maybe one day
    Jordan Whitehead – sure for now
    Justin Watson – maybe one day
    Jack Cichy – IR

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    • The jury is not out on Stewart – Judge Brees already reaches his verdict and it didn’t go MJ’s way.

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  20. I’m hoping we don’t see Winston the rest of the season. I hope we lose out. I hope we fire Licht and Koetter.

    What I want is a new fresh outlook for this team. A GM and a HC who can do what Sean Mcvay did for Goff. We need someone to transform this team.

    I want Winston to sit and clear his head and make football his sole focus not all the BS he’s done in the past. I see the talent. I don’t see a competant coach capable of forging the steel into a sword, if you will. Give Winston a new coach, new system and 1 last shot (5th year). Take the draft pick and pick the BPA in every round.

    Next I cut or trade McCoy. I don’t re-sign Kwon or D Smith either. I believe in our offensive weapons, 1 OL, Vea, JPP, David and Evans. Cut out the diseased players and and another draft with what should be another 3 players who should contribute immediately.

    If Winston bombs 2019, we saw it through and hopefully we can find a new signal caller in the 2020 draft. Still some very good young talent on this team IMO but the culture needs to be changed.

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