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It’s time for PewterReport.com’s 2-Point Conversion post-game column, which features two statements, two questions and two predictions based on the latest Bucs game. Tampa Bay blew a golden opportunity to take a two-game lead over New Orleans in the NFC South, getting trounced at home in embarrassing fashion on Sunday Night Football, losing 38-3. The Saints raced out to a 31-0 lead at halftime as Sean Payton clearly out-coached Bruce Arians and his staff to sweep the Bucs this year.

2 BIG STATEMENTS

STATEMENT 1. Bucs Out-Coached And Bullied At Home By Saints

The New Orleans Saints came into this NFC South clash on Sunday Night Football as the defending three-time divisional champ, and showed why they will likely win it for a fourth straight year.

The Saints absolutely bullied the Bucs on the way to beating them, 38-3.

It was a beat-down of epic proportions on Sunday Night Football.

It was horrendous, embarrassing and pathetic.

This was an ass-kicking, courtesy of New Orleans.

Saints S Marcus WIlliams

Saints S Marcus WIlliams – Photo by: USA Today

Tampa Bay was turned into a laughingstock on national TV – again. The NFC South bully came into the Bucs’ own backyard and beat the living snot out of them, taking a convincing 31-0 lead at halftime that put the game away early.

Head coach Bruce Arians didn’t have his team prepared for the second week in a row in a prime time game, and that’s very concerning for a 6-3 squad that still has playoff aspirations.

Why is this team so bad in prime time? It’s baffling, and that’s on Arians.

“It was shocking,” Arians said. “To watch us practice the way we practiced all week and the confidence we had coming in — we have to go back and look in the mirror as coaches, players, everybody, from yesterday to today. Another one where we go three-and-out and give up a touchdown [to start the game]. Second half, I thought we got the turnover and we don’t score a touchdown. I thought that kind of was the end of it right then and there. Give New Orleans credit — they kicked our ass in every phase.”

The fact that the Arians left 43-year old Tom Brady in the game in the fourth quarter to take needless shots down 38-0 was poor coaching. It was just dumb.

“Just to get points on the board,” Arians said. “He’s the quarterback.”

Down 38-0 in the fourth quarter, Brady had no business being in that game.

Saints head coach Sean Payton

Saints head coach Sean Payton – Photo by: USA Today

Saints head coach Sean Payton owns Arians, and has now beat him in four straight games by a total margin of 73 points. Payton is 15-5 in his last 20 games against Tampa Bay dating back to 2011, and the Saints have swept the Bucs in five of the last 10 years.

For some reason, offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich prioritized unreliable running back Ronald Jones II in the passing game in the first quarter over the likes of Pro Bowl wide receivers Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, which was criminal. Tampa Bay endured four straight three-and-outs due to his awful play selection, and not getting Evans a single target in the first half until the final two minutes was just negligent.

“Part of it is scheme, part of it is reading out some things that Mike was open on and just finding him,” Arians said of Leftwich. “[Brady] is still learning the offense in some spots, but we’ve got to do a better job.”

When the Bucs offense finally got into the red zone, Tampa Bay had four plays at the New Orleans 1-yard and Leftwich called for two fades and a play-action pass – all of which were incomplete as the offense came away with zero points in embarrassing fashion. Tampa Bay’s play-calling has been suspect in three of the last five games, and the Bucs generated just three points – clearly the Bucs’ lowest point total of the year.

Because it fell behind 21-0 so quickly, Tampa Bay ran just four running plays the entire game, which was an NFL record for a team with the fewest carries. The Bucs had Blaine Gabbert kneel the ball down on the final play, so they technically ended up with five carries.

Defensive coordinator Todd Bowles should have known that playing physical press-man with the Saints receivers and blitzing Drew Brees is the only recipe for beating New Orleans. Where were the A-gap blitzes? Where was getting in Brees’ face? If Brees has all day to throw and a clean pocket, it’s over.

Saints QB Drew Brees

Saints QB Drew Brees – Photo by: USA Today

And it was over – early in this one, as Bowles didn’t follow the easy script and went with too much zone coverage and not enough blitzes.

“The game plan today was to try to play more zone and get our front four home,” Arians said.

Awful game plan.

Brees threw for four touchdowns and Tampa Bay couldn’t win any 1-on-1 match-ups in pass rush against the New Orleans offensive line without blitzing. Brees was only sacked once, and fumbled, but that turnover didn’t lead to any points.

Of course.

Sunday night was such a blowout that the Saints inserted former Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston in at QB in the fourth quarter. After the game, Winston interrupted Brees’ live interview on NBC to “eat a W” with his mouth and fingers. It was an embarrassing and childish moment for Winston, but one he was entitled to after the Saints bullied the Bucs in his former home for the past five years.

The Saints are clearly in the Bucs’ heads. They know they are the bully and have no fear against Tampa Bay. They expect to win – and usually do.

New Orleans certainly did on Sunday night.

STATEMENT 2. Brees Outplayed Brady In Dominating Fashion

Not only did the Bucs get out-coached on Sunday night, they got out-played by the Saints, especially at the quarterback position. By halftime, Drew Brees was 18-of-23 for 189 yards and three touchdowns and had reclaimed the all-time touchdown lead from Tom Brady. Brees would finish the game 26-of-32 for 222 yards and four touchdowns.

Bucs QB Tom Brady and Saints QB Drew Brees

Bucs QB Tom Brady and Saints QB Drew Brees – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Tom Brady was horrible for Tampa Bay, starting the game 2-of-7 for nine yards and going three-and-out on the team’s first four possessions. He finished the first half completing just 11-of-22 passes for 96 yards with two interceptions.

Brady was signed by the Bucs for one reason – to win big games like Sunday night’s divisional clash. And he failed. Brady was poor from the start and finished the game completing 22-of-38 passes for 209 yards with three interceptions, no touchdowns and was sacked three times.

New Orleans took an early lead in the first quarter behind a 14-yard touchdown pass from Drew Brees to wide receiver Tre’Quan Smith and a 7-yard TD strike to tight end Adam Trautman. It didn’t help that the Bucs offense had three consecutive three-and-outs in the first quarter and another one to start the second quarter. Brees added another touchdown to Emanuel Sanders in the second quarter and then found tight end Josh Hill in the end zone for a 3-yard scoring toss before exiting the game.

In his illustrious 21-year NFL career Brady had never lost a game by 35 points prior to Sunday night. He’d never played as poorly as he did in prime time, either, and he certainly wasn’t alone in that arena as this was a “total team collapse,” as outside linebacker Shaquil Barrett put it.

Bucs LT Donovan Smith and QB Tom Brady

Bucs LT Donovan Smith and QB Tom Brady – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

“We need to perform better at every time,” Brady said. “One o’clock, four o’clock, eight o’clock, Monday night. Sunday night – it doesn’t matter. They’re going to schedule the game and we’re going to go out there and play. I don’t really don’t think it’s anything magical that’s happening. As players, we’ve got to prepare harder. We’ve got to execute better. There are no excuses for what it is. It’s a poor performance by a team that’s got a lot ahead of it. Hopefully, we can learn from it and come back to work this week with a lot more urgency, execute a lot better, and try to go out and beat a good football team.”

2 PROBING QUESTIONS

QUESTION 1: Why Are The Bucs Getting Off To Such Slow Starts?

Who knows? The Bucs owned the first quarter in the first five games of the season, outscoring their opponents, 38-14. But over the last four games, including Tampa Bay’s debacle on Sunday Night Football, the Bucs’ first quarter scoring has just vanished.

Tampa Bay has been outscored 24-10 over the last month in the first quarter, yet the team has rallied to win those games against Green Bay, Las Vegas and the New York Giants. That certainly wasn’t the case on Sunday night as the Bucs fell behind 14-0 in the first quarter against the Saints.

Perhaps more importantly, the Bucs offense has struggled to produce points in prime time, putting up just 19 points in a one-point loss at Chicago on Thursday night, scoring 25 points in a narrow, two-point victory at New York on Monday night, and only scoring a field goal against New Orleans on Sunday night.

Bucs head coach Bruce Arians

Bucs head coach Bruce Arians – Photo by: USA Today

“That’s one of the things we have to look at because that’s what we just addressed in the locker room,” Bucs head coach Bruce Arians said. “We have stunk in those games. We won one of them [and] we should have won [against Chicago], but we didn’t. This one, we just basically handed it to them.”

If the Bucs don’t figure out why they are getting off to such slow starts soon, they’re not going to fare well against the likes of other high-scoring teams like the Panthers, Rams and Chiefs in the coming weeks. The way Tampa Bay played in the first half falling behind 31-0 at halftime, you would think this whole Bucs team got concussed in practice this week – not just left guard Ali Marpet.

QUESTION 2: Why Did The Bucs Play So Much Zone Coverage?

I have no idea. It defied logic that defensive coordinator Todd Bowles’ game plan was to actually rush four and drop seven into zone coverage. It was the wrong game plan and horribly executed by Tampa Bay’s defense.

New Orleans’ first touchdown came when either cornerback Sean Murphy-Bunting or Jamel Dean blew a coverage assignment and left wide receiver Tre’Quan Smith wide open in the back of the end zone for an easy touchdown. That was an unfortunate sign of things to come.

The Bucs have a collection of good press-man cornerbacks in Carlton Davis III, Murphy-Bunting and Dean, and Bowles asked them to do what they struggled doing last Monday night in New York, which was to play zone coverage. Instead of playing to Tampa Bay’s strength, Bowles played to his young secondary’s weakness.

Bucs HC Bruce Arians and DC Todd Bowles

Bucs Bruce Arians and DC Todd Bowles – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

It’s not that the Bucs are necessarily a bad zone coverage unit, but if a team is going to play zone against Drew Brees its front four has to get home to pressure the passer and come up with some sacks. Like they did in Week 1, the Bucs registered one lone sack, which was by outside linebacker Shaquil Barrett, who got to Brees – on a blitz, of course.

“Nobody wants to come out and play the way we played, like we literally played horrible,” Barrett said. “Nobody wants to play that way. The only way is up from here, so we’re going to come more focused. We’ve been focused, but we have to do it better than we did the past few weeks so we can come out and get a win and change the outcome.”

This wasn’t about the Bucs losing focus. This was about New Orleans’ offensive line dominating in the trenches and winning its one-on-one match-ups against Tampa Bay’s front four in pass protection – again. The Bucs should have blitzed Brees more than they did and paid for not doing so.

“It’s pretty embarrassing,” Barrett said of the 38-3 defeat. “Since the start of the game, I think we stopped them less than a handful of times this whole game. We couldn’t stop them on defense, and it was nothing new, we just didn’t make the plays we needed to make. Our offense, they couldn’t get it going and it was just a total team collapse, and that’s not what we’re about.”

2 BOLD PREDICTIONS

PREDICTION 1: The Bucs Just Lost The NFC South

Crown the Saints. They’ll be division champions in the NFC South for the fourth time in a row after sweeping the Bucs for a second straight season. New Orleans is 6-2 while Tampa Bay falls to 6-3, but the Saints have the head-to-head tiebreaker, in addition to being up a game on the Bucs, and that will ultimately cost Tampa Bay come playoff time.

Bucs QB Tom Brady

Bucs QB Tom Brady – Photo by: USA Today

The NFL added an additional wild card spot in the playoffs for each conference this year, and the Bucs may have to benefit from that to make the postseason. Tampa Bay has a half-game lead for the playoffs over Arizona (5-3), and a one-game advantage over Chicago (5-4), a team which beat the Bucs just a few weeks ago and owns the head-to-head tiebreaker advantage should it come down to that. The Los Angeles Rams, whom the Bucs play on Monday Night Football in two weeks, are 5-3, and the winner of that game will likely determine playoff seeding in the NFC.

Seattle (6-2) leads in the NFC West, Green Bay (6-2) leads in the NFC Central and Philadelphia (3-4-1) has the current advantage in the NFC East. The Bucs can finish no worse than 10-6 this season in order to potentially make the playoffs, which would mean going at least 4-3 down the stretch.

And that’s no guarantee. Tampa Bay may have to finish 11-5 to avoid missing the postseason like the 10-6 Buccaneers did when they lost a tiebreaker and missed the playoffs in 2010.

PREDICTION 2: Panthers Game Will Be Tough – Real Tough

Bucs LT Donovan Smith

Bucs LT Donovan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Forget the fact that the Buccaneers beat the Panthers, 31-17, in Week 2. Forget the fact that Carolina has a 3-6 record. This Matt Rhule team has lost four straight games, but only by a total of 20 points, and three of those opponents – Chicago, New Orleans and Kansas City have winning records. Tampa Bay can’t afford to take the Panthers lightly or it risks getting upset on the road.

Carolina went to Kansas City and took the Super Bowl-defending Chiefs to the wire before losing 33-31. The Panthers offense tied its season high of 31 points on Sunday in the narrow defeat. This game will be a real challenge for the Bucs, and victory is far from assured next Sunday.

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About the Author: Scott Reynolds

Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: sr@pewterreport.com
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eaustinyoung
10 months ago

Officially I’ll say it wouldn’t surprise me if the Bucs went from 6-2 to 6-6 by week 13.

RW
RW
Reply to  eaustinyoung
10 months ago

They win at least 2 if not 3 of those games. TB isn’t like JW.

Dman
10 months ago

Not much good news and disappointing, but the reality is that the Saints are just better, top to bottom.

eaustinyoung
Reply to  Dman
10 months ago

Starts with the coaches. Saints have a better coaching staff. They might play down to some opponents like Chicago and the Chargers but they win when it counts.

Pete Wood
10 months ago

Man, y’all are pessimistic. Bucs aren’t done. They’re not going to lose the rest of their games. Take a look at the NFL week to week. Every week bad teams win and good teams lose. Bucs are a good team. A very good team. The best team I can remember. Brady is not a loser. Bucs will bounce back. One thing they have shown this season is that they can rebound after losses. I don’t know what happened last night. That was not the Bucs team I have been following. Play calling was horrible. Perhaps Bryon just needs to give… Read more »

Buc stops here
Reply to  Pete Wood
10 months ago

The problem is the reality of the situation. At 0-2 vs the Saints the only way the Bucs win the division is if the Saints lose at least 2 games of their remaining 8, and the Bucs win out all 7. If the Saints lose 1 game and the Bucs win out the Saints still win the division. If the Bucs lose 1 game then the Saints need to lose 3 of their last 8 games and that becomes less likely. So the odds of Tampa winning the division are slim. This team is built to win the Super Bowl… Read more »

Lawdy
Reply to  Pete Wood
10 months ago

this isnt the young primed brady of a great franchise you remember. this is the older turnover-machine statue of the bucs. players and coaches come here to die

Pete Wood
Reply to  Lawdy
10 months ago

I don’t get y’all. My optimistic post is getting down votes. I guess the consensus is the Bucs will finish 6-10.
This is not the old Bucs and Brady until last night was gunning for MVP.
the sky is not falling. We’ll be fine.

Buc stops here
Reply to  Pete Wood
10 months ago

No, I don’t think they will finish 6-10. 10-6 is definitely likely. They will make the playoffs but playing on the road won’t make the Super Bowl. I think they can still make the playoffs and I wrote that in direct response to you. The biggest problem is both Brees and Brady fall off in performance at the end of the season now. This has been happening for the last couple of years for both of them. Odds are it will happen again this year. So if the Bucs go through the next stretch starting with losing to the Panthers… Read more »

BigSombrero
Reply to  Lawdy
10 months ago

Brady has been awful for 2 years. This is not a new development.

fredster
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

Here we go again you make some normal comments then Brady has sucked for two years? Your a complete tool.

Dave
Reply to  fredster
10 months ago

He’s a loser. Plain and simple. He has to bash someone since his laughable man crush Jonathan Taylor sucks my left nut. Glad we took future all pro Wirfs instead

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RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

My My

Do you only come out when Brady has a bad game? Very childish on your part. Up to yesterday Brady was was pretty darn good and the team is still 6-3.

Dave
Reply to  RW
10 months ago

He does. Which is why(thankfully) we’ve only heard from him in the 2 Saints games. Nowhere to be found in the other 7 games where he has a 6-1 record, 20/2 TD to INT ratio, and a 113 QB Rating.

Dave
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

Speaking of immature childish morons

Dave
Reply to  Lawdy
10 months ago

As bad as that game was…:you’re an idiot dude. Turnover machine? He’s thrown 5 ints in 2 games vs the Saints, and 2 Ints in the other 7 games against everyone else. That’s a childish immature comment

eaustinyoung
10 months ago

One positive is it’s nice to see Jameis hasn’t matured. Shoving his dumb face in the camera to steal Brees’s spotlight. Dancing around the locker room like he did anything to get that win. Sitting behind Tebow Hill as QB3. Total clown.

PatrioticChief
Reply to  eaustinyoung
10 months ago

Yeah the Bucs have problems but moving past Jameis is not one of them. Can’t imagine thinking of that guy as a leader of a franchise.

BigSombrero
Reply to  PatrioticChief
10 months ago

That’s because you weren’t here for his first 5 years. The kid has immense talent. He KNEW how to use Mike Evans. He was FEARLESS in the face of a rush. He had an infectious energy. Up until last year, he had never thrown more than 18 interceptions in a season. People hated him because he wasn’t as polished at the microphone, like Manning, Brady, Brees, Ryan, Fitzpatrick, etc. People hated his missteps. His arm talent is undeniable. His competitiveness is undeniable. His lack of fear is undeniable. Last night, he took kneel downs in the biggest win for the… Read more »

eaustinyoung
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

Yeah he really showed the Bucs they made a mistake by throwing for 12 yards in garbage time and taking a knee. That will haunt the Bucs forever.

RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

JW may have talent but lacks maturity and the cranial matter to think the game well. Seems like you two have a lot in common.

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Reply to  eaustinyoung
10 months ago

As Nick Wright said on First Things First today, anyone who thinks Tayson Hill is going to really be the future QB of the Saints you have to be smoking something. He is more like a running back who can throw the ball somewhat. Winston is there to become the future of the Saints franchise. He was 1 for 1 for 12 yards which is nothing but a new beginning for him. He is a clown no doubt. But don’t be mistaken – he is going to get his shot in NO. Probably next year if Brees retires like many… Read more »

eaustinyoung
Reply to  Buc stops here
10 months ago

Payton will use him as trade bait – nothing more. Saints will have a guy like Prescott at QB before Jameis. Why do you think they waited forever to get him and paid him peanuts?

Tea-United99
Reply to  eaustinyoung
10 months ago

Jameis learned how to be immature from Arians, who believed kicking a field goal on the last possession to avoid a shut out was the right thing to do. Two players before Winston were calling Brees “The true GOAT” and we’ll, as far as matchups go can’t argue with this year.

BigSombrero
Reply to  eaustinyoung
10 months ago

For all the Winston fans/defenders, it was nice to see him on the field, even if it was in cleanup duty.

For all the Winston haters, it made their blood boil that he closed the game out and ate a W on Tampa turf for the Saints.

eaustinyoung
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

I can think of 20 other things that made Bucs fans blood boil long before Jameis came in the game. Jameis lovers will literally do/say whatever possible to inflate his terrible tenure here.

gcolerick
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

BS….You need to learn to speak for yourself. You are not qualified to speak for me.

Dave
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

Just validated why his ass hit the door on the way out. Was immature then, and just as immature now. A mature, proven winner wouldn’t do or say anything following that win. Especially the 3rd string QB who threw 1 pass in mop up duty. The dude will never grow up

Also, I found it pretty amusing that even with a 31-0 2nd half lead, where every single halfway knowledgeable football fan knew the game was over, Payton still didn’t trust the lead was big enough to bring in JW lol

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tnew
Reply to  eaustinyoung
10 months ago

The best thing about Winston not being here is that he can’t be blamed for the poor coaching, defense, lack of running game, field goals, horrible offensive line and not showing up in prime time match ups… I did enjoy seeing him at his pre-Arians game weight tho..

Buc stops here
10 months ago

This was very unfortunate as it showed the reality of this team and the franchise. It shows that as good as Bruce Arians and Todd Bowles are, they don’t have an answer for Shawn Peyton and his coaching staff. Tampa was thoroughly outplayed in every aspect of the game. It means that the Super Bowl right now is a pipe dream and that Arians/Bowles are going to fall short in their endeavors. 1) The Bucs are going to be on the road throughout the playoffs. Brady is only 4-4 on the road. It is very hard to win on the… Read more »

PatrioticChief
Reply to  Buc stops here
10 months ago

I respect that this is over reaction Monday but even a less emotional analysis is bleak. The Bucs are 6-3. Decent. Not good. They got swept by a divsional rival who a championship contender. Very bad. They got undressed, nay humiliated, by a divisional rival at home at midseason. Terrible. Anything could happen but it’s more likely than not they sneak into the playoffs and play a superior team on the road. It’s just hard to see this team as a serious contender when they have such an obvious coaching deficit and will have to win multiple games on the… Read more »

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Horse
10 months ago

Spot on Scott! From now on we have to win 5 games to guarantee we make it to the playoffs. Time to get the momentum to make this happen. Might be better if we get no home games in the playoffs because we play poorly at home than not. that’s sad to say.

surferdudes
10 months ago

The reality is as much as we praised Licht for putting this team together, we haven’t won anything yet with any team Licht has put together since being here. Six years with Licht, four division titles for N.O., most likely now. The Glazers bought in big. Brady, Gronk, Fournette, now Brown. Stuck their necks out too with the last signing. I think they were counting on winning the division, and hosting the S.B. not competing for a wild card. Last night the players looked like they didn’t believe in what they were being asked to do on either side of… Read more »

Naplesfan
10 months ago

This is a game that just causes everyone, fans and sports pundits to just scratch our heads and go WTF? The team we thought we had evaporated before our eyes last night.

So who are the Bucs this season? The team that humiliated an undefeated Green Bay, or the team that was humiliated last evening by our main division rival Saints?

I really don’t know. The two versions of the Bucs simply do not compute.

BigSombrero
10 months ago

So much for the “If Winston were the QB, we would have lost that game” bullshit.

Tom Brady doesn’t know how to use elite WR Mike Evans. Point blank.

I keep hearing game announcers and writers say to put Evans in the slot. WHAT?!?! As if Evans is only able to run curls. What a JOKE of a plan.

Evans collected 1000+ yards per season for his first 6 seasons, and did it without running frickin curls from the slot.

Dave
Reply to  BigSombrero
10 months ago

Yet in Evans last 8 games against Lattimore, he’s had the following stat lines(and this is his TOTAL lines. Not his stats when matched up against ML in coverage.Those stats are shutout after shutout) 2017: 6 tgt 1 rec 13 yds 2017: 13 tgt 5 rec 55 yds 2018: 7 tgt 7 rec 147 yds TD(Fitzpatrick was the QB btw) 2018: 6 tgt 4 rec 86 yds 2019: 3 tgt 0 rec 2020: 4 tgt 1 rec 2 yds TD 2020: 6 tgt 4 rec 64 yds. Evans vs Lattimore with JW at QB Totals: 28 tgt 10 rec 154… Read more »

Madman
10 months ago

“The game plan today was to try to play more zone and get our front four home,” Arians said.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!! Can you and Todd really be that stupid?

Knightrider79
10 months ago

When the Bucs won the Super Bowl, their Achilles heel was the Eagles. We just couldn’t beat that team. It took us beating them in the playoffs to get that monkey off our back. I thoroughly believe that is what is going to happen. We’re gonna have to face them, and beat them, in the playoffs.

fredster
10 months ago

Wholeheartedly agree we just lost division. This was bad everything from coaching to players to execution. Pathetic.

twspin
10 months ago

Cut the crap out and knock it off fellow Buc fans. The Saints have whipped us twice this yr. They own us. The only way our Bucs see a superbowl this season is for them to..sit on the couch with the rest of us and have a Brewski! I said since last yr the Brady move was wrong and I’m still saying it. Has anybody stopped to notice how these young rookie QB’s are performing in the NFL? They are great and will be for a long time. We might make a playoff game or 2. But its time to… Read more »

fredster
Reply to  twspin
10 months ago

Brady played terrible but any QB would with that play calling and o line play last night. Everyone said it’s that damn Winston but he had similar circumstances lot games. Pathetic defense too. Bucs were dominated in the trenches big time. The refusal to change and adjust by Arians is maddening too.

Tea-United99
Reply to  twspin
10 months ago

It was hubris to believe that during a pandemic with limited access and practice time that bringing in a new QB would work. But you make that choice for Brady, even if he’s 43. If Manning was just cut from Indy I’m calling them in a heartbeat. And we are 6-3. I had us winning 11-12 games with Brady and 10 with Winston, even if the staff said 16 picks weren’t on him and he was responsible for 15 of 47 sacks. I think Brady picking people off short is something we have seen before and hopefully if everyone is… Read more »

RW
RW
10 months ago

Now the crazy talk starts. This team is far better than it showed last night and hopefully the young guys learnt something from the ass whuppin they got.Bucs will beat the Panthers and they will finish at least 10-6. But the coaching is one thing I don’t understand. On D why did they give Brees his bread and butter, the short passing game and decide not to pressure him until it was too late? On Offense , at the start of the game, why did they insist on trying to hit home run balls instead of making some 1st downs?… Read more »

Bucsfan1983
10 months ago

The Bucs start off slow, because Leftwich can never get in rhythm with play calling and Bowles starts games ultra conservative. A recipe for disaster as we saw last night.
Arians said the Bucs need to look themselves in the mirror, and the ones who need to do that most, is BA and his coordinators.

In all honesty in regards to the offense, BA needs to call plays. 1.5 seasons and Leftwich can’t get it together.

aravind
10 months ago

Packers in the NFC central?

cptsora
10 months ago

Panthers just lost McCaffrey again so that probably will help the Bucs next Sunday.

Also getting Marpet back will help.

The year Bucs went to the SB the Saints beat them twice as well. I think the Bucs will beat the Saints when they meet in the playoffs.

EastEndBoy
10 months ago

As much as the fans are supposed to be the cute morons who know nothing about coaching or managing a football team, the reality is that any Buc fan who has been around here for a decade (or some of us for 44 years), could have told you/Arians/Licht: 1) if you sit back in zone against Brees he will eat you alive…seen it before. 2) if you ask Donovan Smith to block a DE 1 on 1, he will eventually give up multiple sacks…seen it before. 3) if you ignore Mike Evans in favor of passing to our RBs, you… Read more »

Eddie
10 months ago

Bruce Arians has to go, now.

SaskBucs
10 months ago

As usual, there are some good points in the comments and a lot of over reactions. First, as a former Jameis supporter, he is no Brady even at TBs advanced age. As someone mentioned… he cannot think the game well enough. He may have done better than Brady last night and got the Bucs to 10-14 points but you can almost guarantee an extra TO or 2 with that. I predicted the Bucs would crush the Saints in game 2, way off! Who could predict the coaches having their heads up their asses that badly though. Brees can prolly throw… Read more »

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