It’s time for PewterReport.com’s 2-Point Conversion post-game column, which features two statements, two questions and two predictions based on the latest Bucs game. The Bucs pulled a major upset in Carolina, stealing a road win in the division by beating the Panthers, 20-14, and keeping Cam Newton, Christian McCaffrey and others out of the end zone.

2 BIG STATEMENTS

STATEMENT 1: Shaq Attack, Bucs Defense Dominant In Carolina

Oh what a difference a year makes for Tampa Bay’s defense.

The last time the Bucs were in Carolina the Panthers ran roughshod over them, racing out to a 14-0 lead in the first quarter and held a 35-7 advantage over Tampa Bay just minutes before halftime in a 42-28 thrashing. Christian McCaffrey compiled 157 total yards and ran for two touchdowns last year.

Oh what a difference Todd Bowles makes.

Bowles’ Bucs defense put the clamps on McCaffrey and Carolina’s potent offense in Tampa Bay’s 20-14 win, holding the Panthers to just four field goals and McCaffrey to 37 yards rushing and 16 yards receiving. Bucs cornerback Vernon Hargreaves III was the hero with a stop for no gain on fourth-and-1 from the Tampa Bay 2-yard. Hargreaves had a career-high – and team-high – 12 tackles on Thursday night.

Bucs CB Vernon Hargreaves III
Bucs CB Vernon Hargreaves III – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

The Bucs’ improved defense held the Panthers to 3-of-14 (21 percent) third down conversions and 0-of-3 on fourth down conversions. Carolina’s ground game was held to just 39 yards with quarterback Cam Newton rushed twice for zero yards and was sacked three times by new outside linebacker Shaquil Barrett, who recorded all three sacks in the third quarter, including two on back-to-back plays to force a Carolina punt. Barrett also came up with a big QB pressure on fourth-and-1 at the Tampa Bay 46 to force an incompletion by Newton and a turnover on downs.

Those three sacks are a career-high for Barrett, who now has all four of Tampa Bay’s sacks to start the season. He finished the game with four of Tampa Bay’s six quarterback hits. I profiled Barrett in this week’s SR’s Fab 5, detailing how he had to provide the team’s pass rush in the absence of the injured Jason Pierre-Paul.

After allowing just 17 points last week in a loss to San Francisco, Bowles’ defense held Carolina to only 12 points on Thursday night. Through two weeks, Tampa Bay’s defense has surrendered an average of 14.5 points per game, which is a huge improvement over a year ago.

STATEMENT 2: The Bucs Learned How To Win In Carolina

“The Bucs didn’t beat the Bucs tonight,” right tackle Demar Dotson declared, and he’s right.

After committing four turnovers last week and losing the turnover battle 4-2 in a loss against San Francisco, Tampa Bay’s offense didn’t turn the ball over once in Carolina. That allowed the Bucs to win the turnover battle 1-0 as rookie outside linebacker Anthony Nelson forced a fumble that was recovered by defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.

Bucs LBs Lavonte David, Kevin Minter and Carl Nassib – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

Perhaps more importantly, the Bucs defense didn’t buckle under the pressure in the game’s waning moments as Carolina got down to the Tampa Bay 2-yard line – only to see McCaffrey get tackled by Hargreaves on a fourth-and-1 run for no gain out the Wildcat formation. In years past the Bucs would have found a way to lose this game – but not this year.

Tampa Bay’s offense did just enough to win behind quarterback Jameis Winston, who was an efficient 16-of-25 for 208 yards with a 20-yard touchdown pass to Chris Godwin, who finished with eight catches for 121 yards, including three receptions of 20 yards or more.

This was despite the Bucs misfiring on third down. Tampa Bay was a dreadful 2-of-12 (16.6 percent). Just wait until wide receiver Mike Evans and tight end O.J. Howard join the party. Evans had four catches for 61 yards, including a 41-yard bomb, while Howard didn’t record a single catch.

Winston didn’t have to carry the entire load as Tampa Bay’s ground game came to life again in the second half for a second straight week. The Bucs were held to just 25 yards on 10 carries at halftime with Peyton Barber accounting for every yard.

Barber exploded for 57 yards in the second half, including a 16-yard touchdown. That allowed the Bucs to rush for 100 yards in Carolina led by Barber’s 82 yards.

The end result was Bruce Arians’ first win as Tampa Bay’s head coach, the Bucs’ first win of the year, which came on the road against a division foe in Carolina. The Bucs avoid the dreaded 0-2 start, which usually sinks most teams’ playoff hopes right out of the gate. Instead, it’s the Panthers that are starting off 2019 with a 0-2 record – at home no less.

2 PROBING QUESTIONS

QUESTION 1: How Serious Is White’s Knee Injury?

The Bucs received some bad news early in the first quarter as rookie inside linebacker Devin White went to the ground and grabbed his left knee. White didn’t return to the game before a 27-minute weather delay. Once the team took the field for warm-ups again, White was seen jogging on the sideline under the supervision of a team trainer, but it was determined he could not return and was ruled out.

The extent of White’s injury is unknown at this time, but PewterReport.com has learned that it is not an ACL tear. Tampa Bay will know more after an MRI on Friday. Veteran Kevin Minter replaced White and made an immediate impact with five tackles in the first quarter. Minter had an interception in the third quarter that was negated by a defensive holding penalty on cornerback Carlton Davis.

Minter finished the game with eight tackles, which was second on the team. White had two tackles early in the game before exiting with his knee injury.

QUESTION 2: Why Doesn’t Winston Scramble More?

Last year Winston rushed for a career-high 281 yards on 49 carries while averaging 5.7 yards per carry in just 11 games. This year, it seems like Arians has convinced Winston to stay in the pocket for some reason and instead of it resulting in big plays downfield it’s been the quarterback hanging in the pocket and taking needless sacks.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

The lone time Winston scrambled on Thursday night he rushed for nine yards and picked up a first down. Winston was sacked three times against San Francisco last week and was dropped three times by Carolina on Thursday night.

2 BOLD PREDICTIONS

PREDICTION 1: Barrett Continues To Pile Up Sacks

Barrett’s four sacks lead the NFL – albeit temporarily – until the rest of the NFL games take place on Sunday. But he’s just getting started. Barrett should be able to notch a sack or two against New York Giants left tackle Nate Solder and right tackle Mike Remmers next Sunday to continue to rack up the QB captures.

Barrett signed a one-year deal in Tampa Bay worth $4 million this offseason and is halfway to hitting some of his incentives. Barrett can reach a $250,000 balance with just four more sacks. With six more sacks, which would allow him to hit 10 sacks, Barrett would earn an additional $250,000 bonus.

PREDICTION 2: Bucs Improve To 2-1 With Win Over Giants

With the Bucs ready to embark on a seven-week odyssey away from Tampa Bay following next week’s home game against the New York Giants, the team needs to start the season 2-1. Many pundits, including yours truly, figured the Bucs would beat the 49ers in the season opener and lose at Carolina before beating the Giants to wind up 2-1.

Instead it was the opposite, dropping the season opener at home to San Francisco before stealing a road win at Carolina. But regardless of how the Bucs got to 1-1, they need to improve to 2-1 with a win over the G-men, and they will get the job done at home thanks to another stellar defensive effort by Bowles and Co.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

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  1. Winston grambles less because he has been encouraged not too, thus less holding penalties.

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    • Well also potential for lost fumbles too on those scrambles. I can see both sides of this argument but I think right now the coaches want Jameis to see the field more so than anything else.

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      • Less injuries if QB stays in the pocket too.

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        • tell that to big ben and drew brees….even winston’s shoulder injury happened in the pocket. I don’t think it’s about protecting him, it’s about scheme. In fact, I recall more punishing hits in the pocket for Winston than when rolling out or scrambling

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  2. It is a process and the young Bucs are buying into what they are being taught. It is a long season so lets see what happens. Go Bucs!

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  3. I would like to see the Bucs offense incorporate more roll outs, RPO’s, and misdirection plays. Last week Winston’s lone TD pass was when he was outside the pocket. I agree with you Scott, we need to move Jameis around some, and encourage him to just gain some yards when the pocket breaks down, and of course protect himself by just getting down. This is the one aspect that I am not happy with BA’s offense, it’s to old school, stay in the pocket passing game. These D ends are just to good to keep your QB in one spot all the time. Jameis has taken to many hits already.

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  4. I agree Scott – Winston has always been at his best rolling out of the pocket…throwing on the run or scrambling for positive yards. Last night he made two excellent throws rolling out, on the run, tight spirals, hitting WRs in stride. I also wonder why – particularly given the struggles of D Smith – we don’t roll the pocket out to the right more and allow him to throw on the run. That also gets him into throwing those darts into WRs instead of the soft fade passes and touch passes that he often struggles with (e.g., sailing it over WRs heads, leaving it hanging in the flat, etc.). I’d love to see more chances for him to run, and rip it into a crossing Godwin, or a big Howard sitting down 10 yards up the field.

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  5. I am fine with Winston scrambling less. QBs who scramble less tend to have longer careers and develop a more extensive set of tools. QBs who scramble too much fade away when they lose speed. Compare Brady with RG3.

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    • Pete, how long did Fran Tarkington play?

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  6. Notice the plays we moved the ball, north-south runs and rapid over the middle slash passes. Notice where we got sacks, long routes and come-back routes where Winston held onto the ball. Pretty simple. Our O-Line is effective at run blocking but ineffective at extended pass protection. I am still baffled why our play calls are still so heavy in long-developing routes. Later in the game, yes, but you have to get the opposing defenses to tighten up and restrict field coverage first. At least until we figure out how to protect Winston longer.

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    • Agreed, I’m hoping not to see anything other than Oline in our first 3 picks this offseason. That line is clearly the weakest link on the team right now and needs to be fixed asap

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  7. What a difference a year makes, this defense is looking TOUGH! Imagine when we get JPP back! Shaq Barrett is clearly our prized FA pickup this year (Suh has been playing great as well but the splash plays put Shaq above him.)

    This was one of those games we would find a way to lose last year. The effects of having BA have already had a great impact on the team and will continue to change the culture around One Buc.

    I’d also like to see more movement from Jameis as he’s getting way too much pressure on him lately. We simply don’t have the oline to protect him long enough for the routes to develop. Jameis has made some of his biggest plays by getting outside the pocket so why not let him move and help the oline at the same time?

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  8. I think a question that needs to be asked and also may become a concern is the lack of involvement when it comes to O.J. Howard. It’s been noted in Ariana history that he doesn’t involve the tight end much but then he has never had one as talented as Howard to work with. Through 2 weeks why aren’t we utilizing Howard slash a match up nightmare? I’d much rather see him being involved as our third receiver rather than Perriman

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  9. Huge to win on the road. After the Giants if you count London that 5 games in a row on the road. We needed that confidence

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  10. I agree on all points made in this 2-point conversion, but I do not expect Barrett to continue at this pace the rest of the season. I expect more games like Week 1 than Week 2 as Barrett was going up against the Panthers backup LT as I believe the starter was in concussion protocol all this week.

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    • Don’t think Barrett is consistently having 3-sack games, but do think he’ll easily lead the team and could possibly have a monster year. Believe his back-to-back sacks knocked Carolina out of FG range as well, or we possibly could’ve ended up in OT had things been different. Not a perfect game by any means, but a W nonetheless.

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  11. I think Devante Bond played OLB opposite Shaq Barrett. Bond is an ILB with rush skills but in my opinion does not have the size or speed to consistently beat OTs off the edge.

    Problem OLB Jachai Polite, cut by the Jets and signed to the Seahawks PS is a true OLB with edge rush skills similar to Shaq Barrett. Why not give Polite a chance to grow up and showcase his skills as an edge rusher. This would be a low risk, no impact on cap space, move that may have value. If not, little ventured, nothing lost.

    Barrett demonstrated last night what an outside rush can do. Polite has college tape that exhibits that same kind of edge rush. Nothing fails but a try. Go Bucs!

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    • This ain’t college and he’s another bad actor. Pass.

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      • Buddah, Why don’t you tell us why Polite is labeled a bad actor. Do you know what he’s accused of?

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        • He showed up 30 pounds overweight at the combine. He was cut by the Jets for constantly missing meetings, and was basically accused of coasting and not trying hard. I call that a bad actor too.

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    • Jachai Polite gave immature responses at team interviews during the combine because he did not perform well. He had the unfortunate situation of being drafted by an unpopular Jets GM who was later fired. He was fined for being late to team meetings. He has not broken any NFL rules or been convicted of a crime. He is obviously immature and hasn’t grown up. The Bucs have a Senior coaching staff – the largest in the NFL and a strong Linebackers room. Polite’s talent has never been in doubt. He is hardly likely to disrupt the chemistry of that unit. The Bucs are the second youngest team in the NFL and it would be understandable if they passed on polite as a development project. A knucklehead maybe, a bad actor, hardly. Go Bucs!

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  12. I thought same we would be 2-1 to start after beating Niners and giants at home. Then losing to Panthers. Not way it went though.

    If they lose Giants game that would really suck. Lol. Lots time to prepare for a not good Giants team at home is must win. I think they get it done. Defense is best I’ve seen in long time here.

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  13. You witnessed what I’ve been saying for yrs about our Bucs. A good or great pass rush WINS games creating turnovers and hurries. Had we continued along our Championship way of a Great Defense? We’d be much further along. Give me an average Offense and a Great Defense and I’ll show you more wins than we’ve had. Now imagine if we had perhaps 2 more Great pass rushers on this team. Fix the Defensive Front engine 1st. The rear will take care of itself IF….there is Kick A** pressure up front. Find another very good DE Bucs!
    Nice win last night. GO BUCS!

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  14. Horse are you done talking about firing Gholston? Lol. Busting your balls he had a very good game last night though. This defense fits him.

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    • Yes I said in another article that I thought Ghostson had played good last night and I was wrong about him. I’m happy to be wrong.

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  15. I will be watching how much our tight ends are being used for blocking vs how often they are available as targets in our receiving game next week.
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    I have tickets for this one and will have the pleasure of seeing Ronde’s name put in the Ring of Honor. Oh, and I will be purchasing a Kangol hat with the Bucs logo on it before the game.
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    Go Bucs!!!

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  16. I’m curious on Naples take? I mean last year he was trying to convince everyone coaching doesnt matter right Naples? This defense is proof of the opposite.

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  17. My family went to game last night. The handful of Buccaneer fans were high fiving each other. The ugly Panther fans looked stunned. Newton was clearly making some inaccurate throws not even close. The parking around Bank of America is ten times more difficult than Ray Ja stadium. Panther fans are well-behaved, so taunting of glorious Buccaneer fans was very friendly. No Buccaneer turnovers!!! Go Buccaneers!!

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  18. This is a game that Koetter would have lost without a doubt. I’ve read a lot of the criticism of Leftwich, but I’m not buying it. They had a game plan and they stuck to it. They used over 6 minutes in the fourth quarter and had Carolina on their heels. If he hits that third down pass to Evans, the game is over. As it was, they basically made Carolina one-dimensional given how little time there was left. They now have two games in the new offensive scheme. They are not piling up but this game in particular gives some confidence. Almost every game in the NFL comes down to a hand-full of significant plays. If Perriman makes the catch in the end zone? If Whitehead doesn’t drop the interception? etc. The team that wanted it more won this game.

    Would you trade TODAT Winston for Newton? I wouldn’t. Too many hits, Cam is not right.

    I’m always nervous when Scott picks the Buccaneers to win. 🙂

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  19. Regarding some of the comments about Winston scrambling less, I get the feeling BA is trying to rebuild Winston’s game a bit. In order to cut down on his downside (turnovers), BA has to limit Winston’s upside a bit (making plays outside the pocket). I agree with others that staying in the pocket can help cut down on penalties against the OL, provided he doesn’t hold the ball too long. It will be interesting to see how Winston progresses over the next few weeks.

    Extrapolating on this theme a bit, I think BA is trying to establish an identity for the entire team. After the obvious problems against the 49ers (turnovers and penalties), it looks like BA and the coaching staff simplified the game plan a bit and cleaned it up. We still had too many penalties and dropped balls, but Rome isn’t built in a day. It will take some time to address all of the Bucs shortcomings. Part of a team’s identity is how they find a way to win. After 2 weeks, it looks like we may be leaning on the defense (yes, the defense) to close games out going forward.

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  20. Why are we the only NFL team without a delayed screen pass in the playbook? Rojo in space on a 2nd or 3rd and long would be a great option.

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  21. Man, once our offense catches up to the defense, look out Buc fans! We’ve had a pretty good offense for a few years while our defense was horrible. Now, we have a new, never quit, defense, starting to take on an identity of it’s own and our offense is still in the learning stages. The beauty of it all is the fact that we still have the same offensive players as we did in the past, with a few nice additions, and turnarounds. I have no doubt we will see both hitting on all cylinders within a few few weeks. Until then, we will just have to sit back and watch this team grow, learn, and make strides. It’s going to be a fun ride with some hill and valleys, but an entertaining ride none the less! Go Bucs!

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  22. Nice to see the OTHER team throw over 50 passes and run 20 times. We won time of possession battle and kept stuffing their run attack. This definitely played into Shaq Barrett’s hands and he seized the day!

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  23. For the guys talking about the pass rush…just realize that stopping the run and rushing the passes are the cart and the horse…hand in glove. If you can’t stop the run, the QB can keep you off balance and slow down the pass rush by eating up resources to stop the run. The success of Vea, Suh, and Goldston has as much to do with the rush as anything. Take away the run, which they did this week, and they have to pass excessively. And when you know they are having to pass…. feasting time for the LB’s and DB’s.

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    • Some called me crazy for saying this when we signed Suh, but Aaron Donald doesn’t get 20 sacks in a season all by himself… it’s a team effort as you’re referring to. And Suh was definitely a part of that! Him, Vea and Gholston stopped a Carolina team who tries to establish their strength in the run game and they couldn’t!

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  24. Gholston…SP.

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  25. thank u BUCS for keeping Cam from running his mouth, keep playing hard nose defense and blocking on Offense and you can go on a winning streak.

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  26. OJ is “off” somehow… fumbles, tipped pass interceptions, false starts, etc… incredibly talented and still on his rookie deal but too much more of this and those guys calling for a Brate trade for OL help are going to start thinking about moving OJ.

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    • I think it may be an off field issue. His girlfriend left him or something like that. He is not focused.

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  27. Scott I understand And Fredster told me Veta Vea is a monster standing up the O lineman occupying the O Linemen in front of him with great battles hell that O lineman would not be able to tackle anyone because he is busy with Vea. Where can I go to find all the tackles and sacks Vea has On NFL.com I can only find 2 solo tackles for two entire games and zero sacks where can I Go to find those statistics showing him doing a great job? It’s impressive watching him and that offense of lineman battle but I can’t find the tackles. He’s doing a great job keeping that O lineman in check and busy.

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  28. Dumb-Ass-Bob, can you actually walk erect.
    If you watched the game last night you would have continually seen Vea harassing Newton in the backfield and making it impossible for him to step up into the pocket,
    Not only that, but the DL’s primary purpose in the 3-4 me is to tie up the OL so the LB’s have easier and cleaner access to the QB or RB.
    You either must not be watching the games or listening to it, because it has been explained several times during the game by the announcers. They try to make it simple for people with a borderline IQ above 85 but apparently you don’t qualify.
    Sober up.

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  29. Sounds like BAB pissed in drd’s cheerios…..lighten up brother.

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  30. The defense played well again and the offense was much improved from the home opener against the Niners. Having said that, I would point out two things our Bucs benefited greatly from. First, for whatever reason it’s obvious that Cam Newton is not the Cam Newton of previous years. Second, Hargreaves made a great stop on McCafferty but with inches to go, running wide with a gimmick play and allowing defensive penetration had to be one of the dumbest fourth down calls by the Panthers that I’ve seen in quite a while. Whatever Newton’s passing deficiencies, in that situation he was still their best option with a QB sneak.

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    • I just knew someone would want to put an asterisk on this win as if it wasn’t deserved.

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      • Just stating facts. A win is a win and any W is deserved. Sorry my glasses aren’t as rose colored as yours.

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    • They were scared of our dline. We pushed them back all night. Give credit to vea, suh, gholtston, and also nelson.

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  31. Bob always struggles to stick with his on-going agenda when the Bucs win. Try as he might to come up with some critical remarks about the Glazers (not Glaziers), B.A., Bowles, female coaches, Winston, White and of course “fat and out of shape” Vita Vea, he is hoping to resort to some web site to prove his point that #50 didn’t do anything in this game. As Dr.D noted………perhaps Bob should actually watch the game.

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  32. BA’s system, like Dirk’s, requires the QB to be patient for the big payoffs. I’m not sure i agree but I see what they are trying to get him to do, and Winston is trying to show he is coachable. Bruce isn’t going anywhere, so Winston has to develop that part of his game to be trusted with this offense. I think Carson Wentz Sunday night is a good example of what they want Winston to do.

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