The Tampa Bay Buccaneers haven’t had a victory Monday press conference and locker room session in a long time – and haven’t had that many this year in general with just five wins. However, winning the last game of the year against the opponent they did while at home made for a day of all smiles as the players cleared out their lockers.

With smiles came an attitude and openness to talk, and that meant we learned a thing or two. These are the four big things we learned on the final media day of the season.

To Change Or Not To Change

When the news broke on Friday that Dirk Koetter would be retained as head coach, it was a bit of a shock to everyone (even to him). But, it’s not for lack of confidence, more in the understanding that the coaching staff didn’t do what they needed to do this season.

Knowing that the offense struggled to turn all their yards into points, the question was once again brought up to Koetter whether or not he would remain the play caller in 2018.

He answered emphatically that yes he would.

What will shock the fans more than Koetter’s return as a play caller will be if all of his coordinators are also retained, as he hinted might be the case.

Offensive coordinator Todd Monken likely isn’t in any danger, but Mike Smith as defensive coordinator could be in jeopardy. The Bucs were last in the league in yards given up this season and were also last in the league in sacks.

Could there still be changes to the Bucs staff under Koetter? Yes. But right now there is no plan to change them.

Grimes Could Return

There has also been plenty of speculation regarding the future of the Bucs No. 1 cornerback Brent Grimes.

Grimes is 34 years old and he’ll be 35 when next season starts. He’s currently a free agent, and there have been hints at him retiring after the 2017 season. But, the team had a meeting with Grimes on Monday morning and told him that if he wants to come back that the team will gladly have him back.

His wife, Miko, also tweeted on Monday morning that Brent Grimes might have some “unfinished business” before retiring.

https://twitter.com/iHeartMiko/status/947845298394685440

Winston’s Offseason Goal

Quarterback Jameis Winston’s final two passes of the 2017 season go down as the game-winning touchdown pass to Chris Godwin and the successful 2-point conversion that followed. That capped off a great month of December for him.

Going into the offseason, Winston said he’ll be ready to get right back at it next week, getting his mind ready for future success and to not be clearing his locker room out after Week 17 next year – instead be preparing for the playoffs.

Dirk Doesn’t Listen To Rumors

Whether he’s purposefully meant to or not, Koetter has had to listen to plenty of rumors about him an his future over the last few months.

When asked about how he’s handled it or what he’s learned, he said that he’s learned you just can’t listen to rumors. He said that he was once told “you either listen to all of it or none of it, and it’s easier to listen to none of it” regarding speculative reports.

Bucs fans hope another year of confidence means a faster start to 2018 – and a better finish as a result.

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About the Author: Trevor Sikkema

Trevor Sikkema is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat reporter and NFL Draft analyst for PewterReport.com. Sikkema, an alumnus of the University of Florida, has covered both college and professional football for much of his career. As a native of the Sunshine State, when he's not buried in social media, Sikkema can be found out and active, attempting to be the best athlete he never was. Sikkema can be reached at: [email protected]
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slaythembucs
slaythembucs
4 years ago

He is going to continue calling plays!!! We deserve what we get in 2018. Unreal shit!

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
4 years ago

well I think a good bit of us was hoping he wouldn’t be calling plays again next year, but it is what it is. He just needs a little red zone self reflection. There’s no doubt his tams have been able to move the ball, scoring on the other hand. ON a side note coach, let’s get rid of that old toss sweep on the goal line, it hasn’t worked yet. As for the rest of the staff coming back, that would be a surprise to me. I don’t know how this defense can suck that bad and nobody has… Read more »

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  cgmaster27
4 years ago

cg – as little sense as it makes to retain the DC who produced the worst total defense in the league (though the more important stat of scoring defense, we ranked better no. 22), the flip side to that is how are we going to draw a top shelf DC to come in to work for a coach who is effectively on probation? Not much excitement or job security in that.

D-Rome
D-Rome
4 years ago

I don’t what to make of the direction of this team anymore other than it seems no one will be held accountable for a failed season.

Staying the course with the coaching staff would indicate the problem is with the players.

Staying the course with the GM would indicate the problem is with coaching.

Perhaps the 2017 was a fluke season. Perhaps 2016 was the fluke season. We’ll know the answer to that by week 4 of the 2018 season.

maarnold1775
maarnold1775
4 years ago

Well, whatever he does, he better win or he’s a gone azz next year. He might end up putting his own nail in his coffin.

buddah
buddah
4 years ago

The red zone is his achilles heel. Look around the league and you won’t find an offense that moved the ball consistently as well as the Buccaneers–and this without a #1 running back. Every coache’s playcalling gets questioned. He has a good offensive mind. This offense should be among the top five in the league next year. The defense is another story.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  buddah
4 years ago

Koetter said it in his press conference; not enough points scored in the red zone and we needed pass rush help. We’re closer to winning then we might not realize. Get a pass rush and one more running back; everything else can work out. Oh I forgot to also say we need some luck and not as much injuries too.

drdneast
drdneast
4 years ago

Although I’m not a proponent of the idea, if u want someone to fall on their sword for the defense, how about Licht. Afterall, he is the one responsible for only drafting one DL, who should really an OLB in the NFL, since he got here. This was on top of the previous regimes that had drafted a pack of busts who are no longer on the team. Add and stir in the fact that Light has gone 50 percent on his FA pickups on the DL. I warned before the season about the age of this group and unfortunately… Read more »

Dbuc63
Dbuc63
Reply to  drdneast
4 years ago

You really think any DL drafted this year would have put the 5-11 Bucs into the playoffs…yikes!! OJ was a great pick.

stlbucsfan
stlbucsfan
4 years ago

Next season is more on Licht than the coordinators. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see this offense is a solid running game away from dominance. This defense needs more playmakers on the DL, Grimes to return and another CB like Vontae Davis to play opposite. My approach would be hope Nelson the G from ND falls to us at 7. Take a RB in the 2nd Chubb/K.Johnson/Guice and then use FA to address the defense. Vontae Davis should be targeted to play opposite B.Grimes. He will come cheap and with a chip on his shoulder. VHIII starts in… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

What you are saying makes sense. I would prefer that Smith goes

scubog
scubog
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

The play calling and red zone efficiency will be much improved once the team has a running back that puts fear in the minds of the opponents defensive coordinator. There has to at least be the threat of a successful running play.

If the O-line can get some semblance of stability with the personnel and more of a focus on the ground game, the scoring will improve. With a makeshift O-line and virtually no running threat the team moved the ball well.

RudeGuy
RudeGuy
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

Need to address DE end with either first or second pick. Bennett might be getting a little long in the tooth, Richardson might go back to the Jets, and I’m not sold on Ealy. We don’t want to have the same DE struggles as this past season and continue to waste McCoy without a proper edge rusher.

e
e
4 years ago

Al least consistency equals hitting the ground running without a learning curve next year; Especially, with some new DL & OL blood.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

I watched the coach press conference and all the players interviews. What got missed in this article was a couple things? Winston was injured longer than most of us realized. Watch Donovan Smith interview. Listening to Koetter’s press conference I did not hear all the coaching staff would be kept. Listen to Winston’s interview and he talks about DeSean Jackson and how good of a player he is.

pinkstob
pinkstob
4 years ago

So after 3 seasons this is my assessment of Winston. I’ll break it up into what I like, what I don’t like and my overall assessment. I will preface this by saying it only takes me 3 NFL seasons to determine how a player will perform going forward so I don’t expect my opinion of him to change much after this. Also, I’ll offer my assessment of the other Bucs we drafted along with Winston (the ones that are still on the team). What I like best about Winston is his pocket presence. He really knows how to buy time… Read more »

Knightrider79
Knightrider79
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

The Titans are in the playoffs because they have a running game and a good defense, 2 things we don’t have and they’re things a team needs to win. As far as your “assessments” goes, his pass to Godwin for the TD was a pinpoint pass that a lot of other QB’s would t have the guts to throw. Brett Favre was confident in his abilities and it got him a long way. As far as your comment about Winston not winning the Super Bowl here’s my question, what are the winning numbers for the lottery? Obviously you can see… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  Knightrider79
4 years ago

The Titans starting RB Demarco Murray averaged 3.6 yds/carry this year and 6 TD’s. That’s not a running game. Their QB had 5 come from behind wins this year in the last minutes of the game. That along with their defense is why they’re in the playoffs. I already acknowledged Sundays win but in terms of 2-minute offense that was the exception to the rule for Winston. This was 3 year assessment. Farve played in a different era with different rules for QB’s. With the protection for QB’s and WR’s it’s easier to put up points and yards by passing… Read more »

Knightrider79
Knightrider79
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

Pinkstob, how many times did Winston give us the lead in the closing minutes only to have our defense lose us the game? He did his job it was our defense that didn’t do their jobs. In the Carolina game he gave us the lead and we lost it, he gets the ball back and thanks to our makeshift O-line he gets sacked. He came up with the ball and before you say no he didn’t watch Peppers and Winston after the game. Peppers told Winston that he Winston had the ball. Mariota has been protected and isn’t asked to… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  Knightrider79
4 years ago

To answer your first question, not many at all. Winston is not clutch. This was 3 season assessment, not a 3 week assessment.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

why dont you go to team rushing yards pink and stop picking I one player? What do you know Tennessee is 15th Bucs 27th, total defense Tennessee 13 Bucs 32, and we won’t get into who has a better line. So you’re points don’t holdback any water. But hey you’ve been doing this for ten years and are so good at it you work for who in the nfl?

Horse
Horse
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

Pinkstob; Thank you for expressing your opinion. I don’t see it like you see it though. If Winston was the quarterback during the Dungy era, I wonder how many Super Bowls we would have won with that defensive group?

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

That defensive group only won one Super Bowl and the year they won Brad Johnson protected the football by throwing it out of bounds when he was in trouble. So to answer your question I would say Winston would have won none with that group.

buddah
buddah
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

I believe you believe this–and some of it, the factual part–I agree with too. But saying that players (or people) never change is naive and narrow-minded (and as a psychologist I have some credibility in this area. Winston has greatly increased his accuracy. Yes, his timing with Jackson was consistently horrible all year, but his touchdown passes to Evans and Godwin the past two weeks were picture perfect. If players never changed after three years, we wouldn’t have won our one super bowl with Brad Johnson and the Ravens won one with Trent friggen Dilfer. Surely, Winston is not a… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  buddah
4 years ago

I’m not a psychic or a psychologist, but historically the vast majority of my statements have gone on to be proven correct so I also have some credibility in this area. Like I said above check the archives by searching on a particular topics. A few recent examples: 2017: I go to training camp every year. I was the only person to point out how bad the CB’s looked. Everyone else attributed it to great WR play. We went on to finish last in the league in pass defense. Search for my comments after the 3rd practice or so over… Read more »

Knightrider79
Knightrider79
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

How do you figure Mariota has out performed Winston when Jameis is the youngest player ever to throw for over 4000 yards his first 2 seasons, Mariota hasn’t done that.
As far as your other posts I’m sure you’ve gotten some things right but I’m also sure you’ve gotten things wrong. Nostradamus got more things wrong than right.

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  Knightrider79
4 years ago

I have indeed gotten things wrong but I’ve gotten far more right. Again, the game is measured in points, not yards. Why should anyone care about 4000 yard seasons when you can accumulate garbage time yards after you have allowed the game to slip out of reach by turning the ball over?

Horse
Horse
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

Pinkstob; you’re only pointing out the ones you got right and the many you didn’t. Should of, could of , would of, means nothing at his point. Adapt, Adjust, improvise works for me in my life.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

There is the three year asessment nobody was waiting for. I’ll give you the you first two paragraphs as they make sense. Your clutch paragraph doesn’t. Jameis has 9 4th quarter or game winning drives. It would be double digits if ours defense could hold a late 4th quarter lead which they blew 4 times his year. His quarter back rating in the 4th quarter game with a 7 point difference or less is over 100. That’s clutch no matter how you spin it. As for the Super Bowl remark, you’re guessing so stop acting like you work for an… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
4 years ago

Before I get into the other players, I’ll just bluntly say that I’m done with Licht and he should be fired for:

1) Consistently not taking the best player available in the draft
2) Way too many whiffs in free agency
3) Four seasons as the Bucs GM and zero playoff appearances

Horse
Horse
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

Pinkstob, does that mean if GM and or Coach is not in a Super Bowl within a four year time frame they should be fired?

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

No. They should be fired if they don’t make the playoffs in 3 years.

pinkstob
pinkstob
4 years ago

D. Smith: D. Smith sucks and needs to be replaced. It’s pretty straight forward: He’s a poor pass protector, an average run blocker and average in generating penalties. A. Marpet: I like A. Marpet because he is an above average pass protector and run blocker. He can really pull well on runs and in the screen game. I believe his value is still right where we drafted him in the 2nd round. I do believe he needs to move back to guard and we need to draft a real center. K. Alexander: It’s close but overall I’m not a fan… Read more »

Knightrider79
Knightrider79
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

Now I know you can’t be serious, Kwon is a stud MLB who consistently leads the team in tackles or he’s at the top. He’s also a leader on this defense probably more so than David and definitely more than McCoy.

I get that you’re not happy with this season much like all of us but to blindly say things makes it seem like you don’t know what you’re talking about

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  Knightrider79
4 years ago

You have to watch where those tackles occur. For example, in our big game against Dallas last year Kwon had like 11 tackles, but most of them were on TE’s and WR’s down the field. Teams ran all over us in 2017, both when Kwon was healthy and out with an injury. It’s not enough to make tackles, the tackles need to be made by LB’s near or behind the line of scrimmage. We could have kept B. Rudd if we wanted that. Kwon doesn’t do that nearly enough relative to good NFL MLB’s.

Knightrider79
Knightrider79
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

You do realize he was a rookie last year right? Ray Lewis wasn’t Ray Lewis right away it takes time and there’s going to be growing pains. You brought up earlier Beckwith and he was drafted to be our MLB. He was actually drafted to be our SAM linebacker but they thought he’d take time to heal, come to find out he healed faster than expected.

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  Knightrider79
4 years ago

Actually he was not a rookie last year. I named players drafted with Winston because they all have been in the league 3 seasons now and that’s normally what I need to figure out how good a player will be.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

Pinkstob, agree with you; not sure if it’s going to happen though.

RenoBuc
RenoBuc
4 years ago

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results” – Albert Einstein (smart guy)

I was fine with retaining Koetter, but it makes zero sence for there not to be changes. Mike Smith, Jay Hayes, and Nate Kaczor need to go kick rocks.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  RenoBuc
4 years ago

Who said there wasn’t going to be any coaching changes?

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Koetter said that.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Naplesfan
4 years ago

Naplesfan, when I watched the Press Conference I agree he said it, then he backed off some. I took it as a sign it didn’t include no changes if the right Head Coaches are fired who were previously good Defensive Cordinators like Del Rio, Capers, Fox; just to name a couple.

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Given the decades’ long relationship between Koetter and Smith, I don’t see him firing Smith unless the Glazers or Licht order him to do so. Maybe they will order him to fire Smith. but heck, if you’re going to overrule your own HC on his coaching assistants, then you may as well fire the head coach.

That. btw … could be the result.

buddah
buddah
Reply to  RenoBuc
4 years ago

We ended up #1 in passing offense in the league and last in rushing, though we did outrush three of the last five teams we played even with a depleted offensive line. Koetter is not the problem. Expectations were too high here and in Oakland. The team was not really ready out of the gate–early injuries, Irma, mental distractions. All these are correctable.

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  buddah
4 years ago

Uhh, no. The Bucs finished no. 4 in passing yards … but like, who cares? The only stat that matters in offense is points scored, and on that we finished in the bottom half of the league again at no. 18, only a few spots lower than our defensive scoring rank (no. 22).

In other words, our offense was mediocre, yet again … and again … and again. It’s not just on one player, of course. It’s on the offensive squad, and the coaches. It takes a lot of people working closely together to produce that record of mediocrity.

Lennis
Lennis
4 years ago

If we don’t overhaul the offensive line in the off season we won’t progress. If we don’t get DL help in the off season or Secondary help in the off season we won’t progress. This team has the necessary pieces on offense to be competitive. But it all starts up front a front that can’t run block or pass block

Freeman Strickland
Freeman Strickland
4 years ago

I hope Grimes is back. It is fun to watch him play. After week 16, by Football Outsider stats, the Bucs were 25th in RB carries (310 vs high of 441 and low of 272) and 29th in raw RB average yards per attempt (3.53 vs high of 5.20 and low of 3.26) Even adjusting for the Bucs very tough schedule and other factors, the Bucs Adjusted Line Yards were 15th (4.04 vs high of 5.07 and low of 3.20). No matter who calls the plays, the Bucs will not succeed in a division with three other playoff teams without… Read more »

BucWonder
BucWonder
Reply to  Freeman Strickland
4 years ago

I hope Grimes is back too. He plays at a high level and seemingly defies age, just like Ronde at that age. I think he has a year or more left, hopefully here.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Freeman Strickland
4 years ago

Chubb won’t be there.

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

We don’t really know who will be where come draft day. Everybody’s draft boards vary all over the place, having Chubb projected today from as high as no. 1 overall to as low as 7, just in a few I’ve reviewed today. There is guaranteed to be lots of shifting around as various player stocks rise and fall, and “market perceptions” change. Certainly some players come in and make a big impression, like the two running backs Chubb and Michel for Georgia, and their linebacker Roquan Smith did last evening. Who knows, maybe we finally elect to go 3-4 and… Read more »

buddah
buddah
Reply to  Freeman Strickland
4 years ago

Time of possession killed us the first 12 games of the season.

Dilly Dilly
Dilly Dilly
4 years ago

We will find out who’s staying and going over the next month or less. Maybe Smith gets a head coaching job ?

drdneast
drdneast
4 years ago

Pinkstob, you go on and on about Winston’s hand size, but do you know exactly what size it is and how it compares to other players like Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Arron Rogers. Why not back your statement up with some real fact and statistics. When I see Winston fumbling it’s usually not because of him losing his grip on the ball but because he is trying to extend plays and that has nothing to do with his hand size. I really don’t think much of your football acumen though since you went after Donovan Smith. Smith was a… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  drdneast
4 years ago

Don’t forget Winston was injured much ealier than was reported; listen to Donovan Smith Press Conference. He knew about it after game 2 of the season. That told me he kept trying to play thru it until he had to rest the shoulder.

pinkstob
pinkstob
4 years ago

Winston’s hands are 9.25 inches. Donovan Smith sucks and has consistently been ranked at the bottom of the NFL by ProFootballFocus. I don’t trust the maturity assessing ability of those resort to name calling…especially with words like “boob”. Not knowing how to give up or quit doesn’t matter. Points do and his ability to not give up or quit does not lead to enough points to generate wins as the last 3 seasons proves. As for work ethic, see above. I’m good, but feel free to go cheer for the Titans yourself. Perhaps you can influence them with your bad… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

Pinstob, I do agree with you Smith needs to be quicker and I believe he would make a great OG; problem is there is no one better on the team than Smith right now at LT. Maybe we’ll draft one in the 1st round, but it would be foolish since our major weakness is the pass rush. I also agree Kwon’s size is an issue thus he misses some tackles. I think Beckles and Bond could fill his spot and I would trade him for another player of need or draft pick. I know this is not a popular thing… Read more »

bucjoe
bucjoe
4 years ago

Pinks Rob Winston has had 8 game winning drives in the 4th quarter or overtime in his 3 years in the NFL. He also had 4th quarter drives to take the lead at least 4 other times this season only to watch the defense give up the lead to lose on the opponents last drive of the game. Also, I have read your posts for years on PR and while I consider you a solid poster you are certainly no oracle as you seem to think. Nor am I by the way. However, while a solid poster I certainly don’t… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  bucjoe
4 years ago

You’re certainly welcome to your opinion Bucjoe. But if you have read my posts then you should know that at no point did I say I was an oracle. Since you said “seem to think” let me clearly state what I think. I am not an oracle. I also never said I was a better or worse poster than anyone else on here. What I have done is told you all what my assessment of Winston, Licht and other Bucs players we drafted 3 years ago are. I also provided a few examples of other times I have made assessments… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  pinkstob
4 years ago

Pinstob; this is why I love this site because we all can express our positions as to the Bucs! Thank you and I always enjoy your thoughts.

bucjoe
bucjoe
4 years ago

I should have added Garv to that list.

bEubanks11
bEubanks11
4 years ago

Koetter must have a thick neck. I thought for sure he had all the rope he needed to hang himself this season. He’s just been given all the rope anyone would need. Unlimited rope Dirk. Don’t feel loyalty to anyone on your staff that you know right now is going to fail you next season. Don’t waste the Glaziers money and our hearts beating your head against the wall while defining insanity once again. You hold a position that only 32 men in the world own. You earned this. Man up and take control of the ENTIRE team like you’re… Read more »

Pete Wood
Pete Wood
4 years ago

I suspect nobody realizes how hot that coaching seat is than Koetter. The man is not a fool and can play call. He’s made some odd decisions this season, but he has to realize his shortcomings. In the wake of an unexpected rehire I think he’ll change his strategy and learn from his mistakes.
I would have liked it if he had turned over playcalling duties to OC, but we’ll see if he has the wisdom to change. Now, I can only hope.

scubog
scubog
4 years ago

Wow! I got up this morning to read Pewter Report and I see over 40 comments on the daily, somewhat mundane article and wondered what was causing such a stir. Lo and behold it was the long awaited “Pinkstob Winston Assessment”. Having watched a few training camp practices with my friend Pink, I could have easily predicted his three year evaluation since it started out a bit tainted when Jameis was first drafted. Pink wanted Mariotta. Of course, as I anticipated, the focus of Pink’s three year study was on the bad Jameis and a reluctance to even notice the… Read more »

chefboho
chefboho
Reply to  scubog
4 years ago

Agreed scu, I didn’t even read pinks comments as I already knew what he would say before it was written. He’s never been on here when Winston has lead this team to victory saying how clutch he is. Part of Winston’s problem is that i believe he tries to do too much because he knows the team was lacking on defense and that he had no running game. Hence the need to make a big play every play. I agree with some things pink has said but to say Winston isn’t clutch is just short sighted. He’s had 5 games… Read more »

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  scubog
4 years ago

You’re welcome to your option Scubog and I like and respect you also. You should know my assessments are based on watching the numbers and statistics as well as play on the field of the Bucs, other NFL teams, tons of college football, other websites, past experience and predictive behavior analyses from as many sources as I can find. I said D. Smith sucks because based on all of that information…he sucks. I agree guard is also a problem, which is why I said signing J.R. Sweezy was a mistake the day we did it and I have reiterated that… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  scubog
4 years ago

Scubog; right with you.

macabee
macabee
Reply to  scubog
4 years ago

Like scubog, I know Pinkstob from the many conversations regarding whether the Bucs would even draft Winston. And Pink is consistent, didn’t like Winston then, doesn’t like him now. And that’s fine. We disagreed then and we disagree now. But I’ve never doubted whether Pink was a true Buc fan. I believe he is and I’m not going to try and change his mind. I kid about this but I have no interest in entering a pissing contest where everybody gets wet with no clear winner. Lol. Lyndon Johnson once said “It’s probably better to have him inside the tent… Read more »

Wausa
Wausa
4 years ago

Here are the season ending stats to chew on:

Bucs Passing Offense Ranked 4th
Bucs Rushing Offense Ranked 27th
Bucs Passing Defense Ranked LAST
Bucs Rushing Defense Ranked 23rd
Bucs 3rd Down Defense Ranked LAST (BY A WIDE MARGIN)
FG % ranked 28th
Punt Yards 28th

chefboho
chefboho
4 years ago

That’s all Winston’s fault tho… smfh

sunshineben
sunshineben
4 years ago

Winston has NEVER been rated higher then M.M.by nfl espn for 3 years. With all the weapons for Winston he has been passed by with the other new qb’s taken after him. Make all the excuses for Winston but he may not be great but ..he is the qb of my fav team…..Go bucs!.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  sunshineben
4 years ago

You think Mariota is better? He played in 15 games this year. Winston started 13 games and missed the majority of 2 of those games. Despite playing far less Mariota had less TDs, MORE INTs, and less yards. He also had a far worse QB rating. Look at Dak’s last 8 games, starting with when Zeke went out. He looked terrible. Could barely throw for 200 yards and had 6 TDs to 9 INTs. The Titans and Cowboys have two of the best Olines in the NFL. Winston had the worst oline and running game in the NFL.

Wausa
Wausa
4 years ago

TOTAL DEFENSE is ALSO LAST.

Jamies has been running for his life with a terrible group of running backs and the worst defense in the NFL.

drdneast
drdneast
4 years ago

Pinkstob, would u please cite your source for the hand size please. Also, I didn’t see you give comprable hand size numbers on those other QBs. Is there is reason for the absence. LOL, somehow I knew PFF would come into this discussion, it pretty much reveals who you are. You pick up on and parrot many derogatory things from others without checking out the facts for yourself because they might not support your point of view. Unfortunately there are a lot of people wandering around like you today. As for me, I turst my eyes more than PFF who… Read more »