The Bucs didn’t have the kind of start they wanted to begin the season after falling to the 49ers 31-17 on Sunday. And the talk on sports radio and social media since Sunday night has been predominately about the quarterback.

A big reason for their loss came from four turnovers, including three interceptions from quarterback Jameis Winston.

While one went straight off the hands of O.J. Howard, the other two interceptions were both taken back for a touchdown and left many to wonder if Winston still hasn’t figured out his turnover issues now in his fifth year in the NFL.

The first pick-six was a pass intended for Peyton Barber that was taken back for a score by Richard Sherman. The second was a game-ending interception on a pass that was supposed to go to Dare Ogunbowale, but was thrown right into the hands of Ahkello Witherspoon.

Bucs head coach Bruce Arians
Bucs head coach Bruce Arians – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

It may have looked at first the interceptions would be the fault of Winston’s, but Bruce Arians set the record straight on Monday and proclaimed that first two interceptions thrown were in fact not on the Bucs starting quarterback.

After reviewing the tape, Arians put the blame on Barber and Mike Evans, who apparently missed a hot route, for those Bucs turnovers, stating that Winston actually threw some perfect balls on those plays.

“After looking at the film the biggest problem with the interception for the touchdown was Peyton was about three yards too deep on his route,” Arians said.”Last night I thought he was fine, but he was too deep, the ball was thrown perfectly. Mike [Evans] missed his hot [route], Jameis executed the play perfectly, the other guys let him down.

On the late game interception sealed the win for San Francisco, Arians did say that he would have preferred that Winston threw the ball away on the screen pass to Ogunbowale since he was under duress.

“The one for the screen, that’s just got to be a throw away, but the other two were not on the quarterback, we dropped one right in our hands, so, we got to eliminate those types of plays if we’re going to beat anybody.

“Two of them he had nothing to do with. He throws a perfect ball, we drop it, it goes up in the air they get an interception. Then the guy runs a route too deep and he threw it right where it’s supposed to be after the guy missed the hot, so guys have to play better around it.”

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  1. Bruce doesnt seem like the kind of guy to make stuff up ,so I’ll take his word for it on these. The Jameis haters will scoff and still say they know more,but we need these interceptions to stop. No matter how they happen.

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  2. Wow, imagine that. Yes Winston still had a pretty bad game, but it’s pretty telling when the coach himself clears the air. Of course trolls like naples, BAB will come up with another narrative to make themselves feel better. This is why football is a TEAM sport. This team still can’t get out of its own way. But I’m sure the Winston haters will say BA is just sticking up for Jaboo. Well, he’s not going to call out his star receiver unless he made a bad play and that’s what he did. Still, the team needs to play better on all sides, but it’s refreshing to hear a coach blame those responsible for their errors instead of avoiding it. I still think it’ll be a long season, but accountability is what Ariana brings and if you fuck up, he’ll call you out on it. The screen pass was still a terrible decision. Here’s to hoping we can get a few things fixed against Carolina.

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    • Now answer this question..Does this make YOU feel great about Losing? As the great Lombardi once said, All the chatter is just BS. Winning is all that matters. Amen bro Vince.

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      • Not at all. In fact not once did I say I felt good about it. My post was about holding everyone accountable, not just the quarterback. Clearly you missed that.

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        • We still LOST. That’s all that matters.

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  3. 4 passes into the hands of 49ers and dropped, Jameis was lucky to have only 3 INTS
    1 INT was tipped.
    It looked like he was throwing passes at the 49ers directly at times.
    My god, I can not believe my ears of some words coming out of the Great Brucie
    The NFL film on him said he was a straight shooter, do not think so he says what the mic wants to hear.

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  4. I have watched Winston play QB for 4 plus years in the NFL and 2yrs in college so dont blow sunshine up my butt crack and tell me Winston isnt a turnover machine. The stats on him do not lie. This guy has just enough talent to break our Bucs harts year after year. I will not renew my season tickets until we replace this guy.

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  5. I’d have to go back and look at the first two INTs, but I specifically remember the third one not entirely his fault. The Bucs were going for a screen, Winston had almost immediate pressure in his face, threw the ball early because of it. Both Cappa and Dotson were dominated on the play.

    At the end of the day though, Winston needs to take the sack instead of making the throw.

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    • Added: the ball off of Howard’s hands INT, isn’t is fault either. Howard has to catch that.

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  6. Fact is Jameis should recognize that the receivers are not in the right spot and either check it down throw it away or run it for a few yards. I get that some of it is timing and receivers need to be in the right spot at a certain time but he forces a lot of his passes and rarely just takes the loss on the play which often leads to a turnover. Good QBs don’t make the same mistakes every year. They improve every year and he still looks like a nervous rookie out there. I truly hope he can be the franchise QB this fan base deserves but he has done next to nothing to show that. Please prove me and all the other “Winston haters” wrong Jameis.

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    • Jameis’s only option on the game-sealing INT was to take a sack, which QBs inherently think not to do. He was trapped in the pocket (so couldn’t run or throw it away as it would have been intentional grounding) and he had no check-down options given the speed with which the 49ers’ pressure got to him. If Arians says Barber was out of position on that play, then I’m going to believe him. (On the first pick-six, it ABSOLUTELY looked like there was a communication mixup on the route, and it’s easy to believe Evans had the route wrong… and OJ was 100% responsible for the first pick, Jameis put the ball right on his hands.)

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      • I agree that the first pick was all on O.J. As for the game sealing pick, taking the sack or potential grounding foul are the better plays. He should also recognize when his receivers are out of position. Plus he had two awful throws that should have been picks that were dropped by Niners defenders. He should have better awareness in his 5th year. You just don’t throw blind. It’s not just the picks either. It’s his awful deep ball accuracy, lack of anticipation and awareness, inconsistency, bad ball handling, most turnovers in the league since he’s been drafted, and is rarely clutch at the most important times. Like I said before I hope he proves me wrong. I dont want to see him fail. Hope he turns it around but has given me no reason to think he will so far.

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  7. Were the two fumbles not his fault as well? Pretty telling he did not comment on those. Okay, two INTs were not his fault. That still leaves him with two more turnovers he is responsible for. He has until the second Carolina game to get his head on straight and then we may see Gabbert or Griffin after the week off. I give Winston essentially 5 games to show improvement.

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    • It’s not going to happen. You don’t pay a guy $20 million and then bench him. Regardless if he plays like shit because that’s admitting you messed up giving him that money and get your ass fired.

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  8. The pick that hit O.J. in the hands, and bounced into the air was not his fault, all the others were. One right to Kwon that was dropped, and one in their end zone that was dropped, what about those bad throws? Funny how Brady, and Brees’s coaches don’t have to make excuses for their Q.B.’s picks, because they hardly throw any. Looks like Bruce will be another Jameis enabler. I’ve supported Jameis for the last four years. Bad run game, bad defense, blah, blah. No more. He should be tearing up the league by now if he was any good. Funny how Mahomes seems to find the right receivers, rarely throws a pick, and as a second year Q.B. threw for 50 TD passes!! Picked up right where he left off yesterday. Jameis picked up where he left off his first game as a rookie in Ray Jay, pick six should be his new nick name! Change the team name to the Tampa Bay Excuses!!

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    • You beat me to it on the throws to Kwon and the one in the end zone that should have also been picked off. Those warranted an explanation as well but Arians omitted those from the discussion and I would have liked to hear whose fault those were.

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      • Jameis gets a pass for the Kwon one. He tripped on the turf as he made his throwing motion, just bad luck.

        The end zone one is more interesting but it looked like just a solid defensive play akin to the infamous Malcom Butler INT in the Patriots/Seahawks Super Bowl.

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    • I would hate to wear that on my hat or t-shirts. How about the Tampa Bay Long-Suffering Fans of Bad Quarterbacking

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  9. But shouldn’t a QB have the awareness to tell his receiver is out of position and not just blindly throw the ball where he’s been told to? I mean, if Barber was *three yards* out of position, Winston should be able to see that.

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    • That throw is called an anticipation throw you throw it before the reciever is out of his break ,so how would he know if hes in the wrong spot?

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  10. I’m a big Jameis Winston fan. I loved him in college and I loved that we drafted him. He’s had some great moments and I wish that critics weren’t so hard on him.

    After this though I have to let him go. It’s too many turnovers, it’s the fact he can’t throw deep and it’s the fact we never win. Yesterday was a winnable game and yesterday was supposed to be the beginning of a fresh new year with expectations that have never been so high since Jameis entered the league. The offense sagged through Winston as he made bad throws and cost us 14 points. You can say that he threw 2 tds to Brate and if they held it would of been a different game and you can say that the receivers were at fault but the problem is these excuses are always here. We had a taste of Fitzpatrick last year running the helm and it was incredible and we won 2 of our 5 games with him. It’s not hard to imagine if we had a different quarterback that didn’t turn it over as much how much more efficient we’d be, we would of won yesterday as an example.

    I’m tired of the excuses and tired of the results. I always liked Jameis and think he has all the talent In the world I don’t regret drafting him it was obvious the tools he displayed that with development he can be one of the best. He hasn’t developed though and for myself and this fan bass it looks like it’s time to move on sadly.

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    • preach

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    • Good post. Hopefully he bounces back, establishes some good consistency in the coming weeks and restores your hope. I too believe he has the talent and the intelligence to do better and get the second contract. We will see, but this first game of the year was a disaster for him and our team.

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    • Amen brother.

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  11. I can’t wait to see what you Buc Ass Clones say when we win on Thursday Night and Winston throws for 300yds 3 tds 0 Int’s. He had a bad game but so did the team, But for some of you you want to blame Winston for The Blocked Punt, The holding penalties, The long Touchdown Pass, The two point conversion and every other thing that went wrong. It doesn’t matter what the coach says, you’re not going to be happy until we are starting over with a new rookie QB with somebody named Donovan Smith & Demar Dotson protecting his Blindside.

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    • This “hate” isn’t based off of just yesterdays game. It’s the combo of his poor career and the fact that he has everything around him to succeed and still has not shown improvement. What are you going to say if the panthers win and Jameis throws another 3 picks to lose the game? More excuses?

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  12. I’ve never grown more tired of hearing something as I am “Jameis Haters”. No one is “hating” on Jameis. He has earned all his criticism on and off the field. The dude flat out sucks. Every Bucs fan wants to love our QB, no one wants to “hate” for the sake of “hating”. Stop saying that shit

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  13. I’ll give a different take on the 2nd INT.

    – 1st one was all on Howard.
    – 3rd one was a group effort of poor play
    – the two drops (thanks Kwon) were all on Jameis

    But the 2nd pick, I actually blame Leftwich and here’s why:

    Jameis has never been able to make that throw (outside the hash, short pass). His first NFL pass was that throw….and you got it, it was picked off (a pick 6 if I recall). Don’t know why – something about it being between a touch pass and hard pass that he always floats it out there. That’s not new! Leftwich should have known this and never called that play.

    I said at the start, one of the three keys to the season was Leftwich putting Jameis in a place succeed – keep him at 3 and 5 step drops and throwing darts up the seams and into WRs. Finesse passing is not his thing.

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  14. Not sure I completely buy into Arians logic. I am sure he is trying to keep Winston’s confidence up.

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  15. If Winston cannot turn this around by 2nd game, and Bucs don’t pull him before 3rd game, this season is toast and the blame has to be laid at the feet of Licht and BA. This was a horrible game for him, and I was a big supporter.

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  16. I was giving Jameis a break on the one that bounced off O.J.’s hands. Watch the throw, it was high, and hot. His passes are always high, and hot leaving his receivers hanging out to dry. It wasn’t a long pass, is it to much to ask he hits O.J. in the gut with that throw? Stop the excuses already. I’m not a Jameis hater, never have been. I’ve just seen enough to know he isn’t accurate, makes bad decisions, and turns the ball over waaay to much. If he wasn’t the 1st over all pick in the draft, he’d be out of the league by now. No team can win consistently with a QB who plays like him.

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  17. We’ve been going through this for four years. Those who like Winston will continue to apologize for him; those who dislike him, many who opposed drafting him will point to his flaws. It is getting boring and predictable. Look, he had a bad game and never looked comfortable. Still he threw a rocket for the touchdown to Godwin and was perfect on the throw to Brate that could have been a touchdown. But this was a poor performance no matter how you cut it. The last interception was the most important of the game. We had the ball, a little more than two minutes left in the game and one time out, two if you count the two minute warning. Enough said.
    As for White, he had 5 solo tackles. Busch had 7 in a game where his team was crushed. Whitehead had a great game; the Buccaneers contained the 49ers running game. The defense got us the ball back. Evans was sick–throwing up on the sideline; White was ill too. Tough break. We gave signs that we can have a decent running game. This was the first game in the new offense. How did the other teams installing new offenses fare. Atlanta was terrible; Green Bay won but scored 10 points. Arizona tied. The other five all lost. THEY ALL LOST! I was opposed to Winston because he made questionable decisions at FSU; he still is making them. I’m not rooting against him. He had 15 games to show that will make or break his career in Tampa. Cam Newton had one really good season, spearheaded by a great defense and got a big contract. His longest completion yesterday, his longest throw was 17 yards. The majority of these Thursday night games are won by the home team. Traveling on three days rest with one real day of practice. But we will have some indication about the heart of the team.

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  18. Whatever… If Bruce Arians told you that wolverines make good house pets, would you believe that too?

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  19. Yes THEY would CB.

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  20. Every QB throws INT’s that are dropped. It’s a meaningless statistic. Just like TDs that are called back.
    It’s stupid to even talk about them.
    Like I almost made that TD catch stat.
    Fact of the matter I said those 2 picks weren’t Winston’s fault last night.
    You mutts wanted accountability and BA is giving it to you.
    Winston has taken the blame for all these blunders his teammates make and coaches have been standing aside letting him take the heat but no more.
    Good for BA.
    These knuckleheads need to learn they are going to be held accountable for their mistakes that leaf to losses

    Yu

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  21. Its not so much what B.Arians says as what he didnt say.

    He didnt make any comment on the multiple overthrows, especially deep passes.
    He didnt make any comment on the 2 other Picks that were dropped by the 49ers which 1 of 2 of those could have been another Pick 6.
    He didnt make any comment about the poor decision to Intentional grounding in the Red Zone with not a Buc around for 15 yds.
    He didnt make any comment about 55.4% completion with a New OC, yet every other QB of the 15 teams or so that had new OC had higher completions.

    Its just more excuses, but hey I get it. Arians feels like he has to protect his back and his decision to join the team until the evidence of this year piles up after about 5 or 6 games. So we all have to give it time.

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  22. I listened to BA’s presser just awhile ago.  I also had heard some remarks by Ian Beckles on the radio to the effect that JW is still learning this new offense.

    So, I will dampen down my upset about the three picks at this point.  What we need to see is, if Winston really can show better judgment over the next, say, five games.  Let’s see if he can develop his play in the new scheme and can demonstrate consistency by mid season.  Otherwise, I will support a move to find a new QB like some of you advocate already.

    Of course we will have to watch one game at a time just as the team with JW will have to play them one game at a time.
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    Go Bucs!!!

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  23. The coach killer has another victim!!!!

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  24. Two weren’t his fault and the screen pass was doomed to failure right from the beginning.

    All players involved in the screen except Cappa get a failing grade. He should have thrown it away but at the end of the day the play design was poor and if your play design was poor then there is a bigger issue that needs to be addressed.

    They need to re-evaluate some of these play calls. Where’s Justin Watson or Bobo Wilson? Why the hell did we match up Peyton Barber on Richard Sherman? These are not QB issues these are coaching issues.

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  25. So, everyone here seems to think that BA is covering for Winston. I could believe that if not for

    1. The fact that he has forgotten more about football than any of us will ever know, and 2. If he was covering for his QB, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t do so at the expense of his star receiver and his RB.

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  26. Winston is the reason we don’t have a chance to win, pressure him and cover the deep ball. He has the pocket presence of a rookie. He looks like he is scared to get hit so he just throws the ball anywhere. We are fighting a losing battle with him.

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  27. As I said before, he cannot get rid of him or bench him, those were the ultimatum when hired. He will not be honest about him, because he cannot be. We all saw the game. We all saw zero improvement from Winston. Last coach to criticized him was fired (also fired for running a crap defense and a crap OL coach), so BA knows he has to suffer this year to get his real QB next year!!! I’m starting the Draft Andrew Luck rumor right the hell now!

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