Florida State RB Dalvin Cook - Photo by: Getty Images
The long and somewhat grueling draft season around the NFL is almost over, as Thursday night things kick off in Philadelphia. The Bucs pick at No. 19, and all the pundits have weighed in on who they think Tampa Bay will select.
Below is a roundup of the major outlets along with links to their mock drafts. Take a look and comment on what you think.
CB Adoree Jackson – USC
RB – Dalvin Cook – Florida State
Mel Kiper – WR John Ross – Washington
Todd McShay – TE David Njoku – Miami
Rob Rang –RB Dalvin Cook – Florida State
Dane Brugler – S Obi Melifonwu – Connecticut
Pete Prisco – S Budda Baker – Washington
Will Brinson – RB Dalvin Cook – Florida State
Jared Dubin – TE O.J. Howard – Alabama
Ryan Wilson –RB Christian McCaffrey – Stanford
Daniel Jeremiah – TE David Njoku – Miami
Chad Reuter – RB Dalvin Cook – Florida State
Charley Casserly – RB Christian McCaffrey – Stanford
Lance Zierlein – DE Derek Barnett – Tennessee
Bucky Brooks – RB Dalvin Cook – Florida State
Maurice Jones-Drew – S Jabrill Peppers – Michigan
Mike Mayock – S Malik Hooker – Ohio State
Peter King – T Cam Robinson – Alabama
Mark Cook currently is the director of editorial content and Bucs beat writer and has written for PewterReport.com since 2011. Cook has followed the Buccaneers since 1977 when he first began watching football with his Dad and is fond of the 1979 Bucs team that came within 10 points of going to a Super Bowl. His favorite Bucs game is still the 1979 divisional playoff win 24-17 over the Eagles. In his spare time Cook enjoys playing guitar, fishing, surfing and family time at the beach. In addition, Cook can be found in front of a television or in Doak Campbell any time the FSU Seminoles are playing. Cook is a native of Pinecrest in Eastern Hillsborough County and has written for numerous publications including the Tampa Tribune, In the Field and Ya'll Magazine. Cook can be reached at email@example.com
Really hope Lance Zierlein is the winner in this one.
It is an impossibility for Barnette to fall that far. I saw that one and actually laughed. Would love the choice. though.
ESPN, go home, you’re drunk
If anyones wrong I hope it’s PR. I can live with the others picks. For me, I’m hoping it’s Dalvin Cook.
Whoever we pick I will support as they sure know a lot more about all these players; regardless, we will have a quality player. Go Bucs!
There’s hundreds of mock drafts, but interesting that Mark didn’t reference any at Sports Illustrated, the all time king and patriarch of sports media. Several mockers at SI, but one that I found most interesting was Peter King’s mock.
He has (drum roll) the Bucs passing on Dalvin Cook and taking (big gulp) Cam Robinson at LT, the only offensive lineman graded by most analysts as first rounder.
It would be most entertaining if Robinson were the selection, if only because it has been preached here at PR for many months that the Bucs don’t want any more or new offensive linemen, that they’re most assuredly standing pat with the current crew.
I imagine at least a few of the Buc players would be ecstatic to have a real talent at LT – with Jameis Winston being at the top of that list. Our existing crew of running backs, any more RBs we might draft, and George Warhop would also be ecstatic at this selection.
It’ not happening. I will bet it now, there is ZERO chance the bucs take a lineman with the first pick. What would they do with Smith? Just sit him?
And if I’m wrong, I will humbly walk back in this room and eat my humble pie, just don’t see it happening.
Just listen to the words that Jason Licht spoke last week about how he views the draft. He specifically stated, unequivocally, that he searches for BPA and that it doesn’t matter if someone is already on the team at that position, even if that existing player is a well established Pro Bowl type veteran … which Smith is a hugely long way from being today. Licht views drafting as adding the right guys to the team, and it doesn’t matter what position they play. Offensive linemen in particular are supposed to be able to shift around and play different positions, depending upon temporary team needs and the abilities of fellow linemen.
BPA – it’s really a simple concept, but apparently too complex for a lot of fans who think the draft is all about need. Good, especially great teams are always upgrading, looking to add more talent and more depth.
Really, just try real hard to get your mind around the fact that competent GMs don’t draft on need except in cases where it is glaringly obvious on a veritable emergency basis (i.e., a team that lacks a starting quality quarterback). Getting an upgrade at LT is definitely not something that comes along often and when you can grab an exceptional one, you take him.
Well as usual in your long winded and condescending tone, you make zero point. Ok in your aspect , if the best player available is a qb , you take him if you’re us?
You see my point here coach? BPA is also subjective so I’ll even use licht and koetter for reference as they’ve stated many times they are happy with the line. PR has even stated as much , but apparently you keep missing that. I’ll reiterate for you since the first time didn’t sink in, we aren’t taking a lineman with out first pick, regardless of your wisdom at the best player available approach. Try to wrap your head around that coach.
It’s all perception. For some reason Peter King’s perception is that our O-line is weak (in particular Donovan Smith). He thinks the Bucs “need” a LT regardless of who might be the BPA on the board at #19. That’s how all of the folks doing Mock Drafts determine their choices. That’s why none will get over 10 correct.
Now we have all of these mediocre QB’s projected to be drafted in the first round. Heck, a couple had Mitchell Trubisky, a one year starter, going #1 overall. That my friends, in my opinion, is a true “reach”.
By your definition of condescension, apparently that means quoting the one guy in the world who knows what the Bucs draft philosophy is, unlike, say, everybody else in the world who is just spouting their own personal opinion.
You don’t know who we are taking with our first round pick. Really, just admit that you don’t know who Jason Licht is going to pick.
It could be anybody, it could be the guy you’ve been flogging for many months now as a loyal but always whiny Noles fan who complains that it’s so hurtful that other Bucs fans are tired of hearing all about your Nole love.
The point of mock drafts is not to say “it’s going to be this guy”, the point of mock drafts is to say “it COULD be this guy”. Everybody knows that nobody but the team GMs know who they WANT to pick, but even so, the team GMs also know that they don’t know who’s going to be available, other than the first overall picking team, particularly when our team is down at no. 19.
Try wrapping your head around some logic and forget your Nole-love for a moment or two.
I think maybe it would be best said taking BPA based on team necessity/priority level to fill each in need. Most if not all in this forum agree that we will not take a QB, certainly not in the first round and even at 19, the QB’s in this draft will not be the best available pick IMO. My gut tells me that Licht is waiting to see if any of our “most wanted” are remaining as it approaches our 19th pick, if someone like Cook, Mccaffrey or even one of those TE’s fall to 19, then I think he stays and plays if they are all gone, he probably will entertain the possibility of moving down and gaining picks. If this happens, I would not be surprised if we select Hunt or Kamara and then a safety right after. Yet still, for some reason, I think Licht has a wild card up his sleeve this year, because I think ultimately, this draft in particular could fill the final pieces for us to become legitimately a playoff contender. Hope everyone is doing well, Go Bucs!
*IF* that happened, Smith would move to LG. I know some people around here have called for that regardless- as they are not fans of Smith at LT
If Cook is really dropping to Rd 2, and the ESPNers appear to believe that based on their rankings etc. I would do the following:
1) Package a 1st and 4th to trade ahead of a few teams (Eagles, Titans) to nab Corey Davis in the low teens.
2) Package a 2nd and 3rd to move to the late 1st/top of Rd 2 and take a freefalling Dalvin Cook (figure out the specifics of late round compensation later).
Doing that would guarantee I just used this draft to get the WR and RB with the best tape in the country, fullfilling #weaponsforwinston in one fell swoop. Then Mark, Scott and the rest can take the the rest of their weekend to go golfing and Dirk can spend the next few months plotting for a top 5 offense again.
I don’t believe this Cook chatter one bit, I would still be shocked if he was there when we picked. I’d be even more shocked if we passed. I mean guys like Foster not only got kicked out of the combine but pissed dilluted and he’s still going to go top 15. What the hell did cook supposedly do?!
Prepare to be shocked cgmaster. I believe Cook will fall to 19, the question is whether the Bucs take him. Fournette and McCaffrey are the consensus top 2 RB’s at this point (despite both quitting on their team for their bowl games), both likely going in the top 15.
Regarding Dalvin, who actually played his bowl game instead of sitting out, he was once accused of battery against a woman outside a Tallahassee bar after his freshman year, he was found not guilty after a brief trial. Cook was also cited for chaining 3 pit bull puppies outside, which is not what you should be doing with puppies the year before. He also doesn’t keep the best company (allegedly), so those would be some reasons for his slide.
What is the point of arguing about where Cook will be drafted? Really, just wait until Thursday and then we’ll know for sure if he’s a first round pick, or not.
What is the point of reading an article about mock drafts? Really, just wait until Thursday and then we’ll know for sure.
-See what I did there
The point of mock drafts is not to argue, to say “this guy IS going to go at this spot or that spot”, and then defend that argument to the death as you and CG are doing here, devasher.
The point of mock drafts is to say “this guy COULD be the pick at this spot”.
See what I did there? Called you out.
Cook was also involved in the bbgun fight that caused property damage with Winston. He also has shoulder injuries.
Bucs can get a similar value with less baggage or injuries later in the draft.
You’re joking right? Dalvin Cook was in HS when Jameis Winston got in a BB gun fight with his friend Chris Casher (back in 2012). If Cook was a part of FSU back then he’d be coming off of a miraculous 6th year of eligibility this year.
Let’s get the #blameDalvin hashtag going. Google is your friend.
And none of you even mentioned his fumblitis problems. He (Cook) has one of the worst turnover ratios in the entire draft!
So, you want to waste our first 4 picks in an incredibly deep draft, to come away with only 2 players. The other problem is, at least one, or both of them, could even be there at 19, where we could still use all 4 of our picks. We could still get one of those two players and have 3 more picks left in the top 4 rounds to better improve our team.
Let’s look at some recent but not too recent drafts, starting with 2011 (6 years ago). You have 7 players rd 4 or later making it to the pro bowl (156 picks) while there were 15 pro bowlers in the first round (32 picks). So to break that down, you had a 4% chance of drafting a pro bowler picking 98+ in 2011 but a 47% chance of drafting a Pro Bowler if you had a top 32 selection that year.
Let’s pick a draft that the Bucs had 9 selections in, 2010. Seven years later Gerald McCoy is the only player of the 9 still on the team. There were 13 pro bowlers drafted from the 3rd round on (190 picks) leaving a 7% chance of getting a pro bowler picking 65+ while there were 16 Pro Bowlers in the top 32, (50%).
I know it sounds crazy, but taking a player in the first round is a much MUCH better bet than having several picks at the end or middle of the draft. The Bucs had NINE picks in 2010, and shockingly the only one remaining is their first rounder. Tell me again why the team should hold onto their 4th round pick for dear life if a potential pro bowler can be had with that and a 2nd rounder.
Some folks prefer quantity over quality. They’d rather take two chubby girls from the band to the Prom instead of the pretty cheerleader. It’s just two philosophies. It’s just recognizing how players can be ranked in groups. Maybe a team can drop down a few spots and get more opportunities to select multiple players with a similar ranking. Like last season when we went back two spots and still got the targeted player.
Teams win by having more stars than journeymen. Where are the stars typically found? First round.
It would be that simple as you say but for one glaring fact:
First round picks are both far more valuable, but they are also far more risky and damaging when they fail, than later round picks A failed fourth or sixth round pick is a “meh” event, while a failed first round pick can get GM or head coach fired. Just ask Jon Gruden, who formed the “Failed Football Coaches of America” and became its first member … he openly attributes his firing by the Bucs in 2008 to not picking Aaron Rodgers in the 2005 draft rather than Cadillac Williams.
And the simple fact is that more first round picks fail than succeed. That later round picks fail even more often does not erase the fact that first round picks are by nature a risky proposition.
I have been a Bucs fan all my life. The Bucs do not need a running back. We already missed with a kicker in round 2 last year. We need the best available player at one of the following positions (not in order): DE, CB, WR, OL, or TE. Thats the truth. Let’s not fall in love with all the Noles players. We have a championship to win.
There goes that simple anti nole argument. It’s got nothing to do with him being a Nole and more about him being the best rb in the draft on quite a few boards.
And I still can’t figure how anyone can look at our rb roster and say we don’t need one.
PFT just did their one and only mock draft and Dalvin Cook was listed at 19. I sort of respect analyst who only do one Mock per year and wait till 2 days before the draft to do it. I personally would go Best Available Edge Rusher, but I could live with Cook if Licht and Koetter go in that direction. I’m from the old school “Defense wins Championships.” For all you FSU fans out there I have my fingers crossed.
Those all look pretty fine – apart from PR’s…if we pick Adore Jackson at #19 (over what must be a long list of better choices in that mock – not that I dislike Jackson, but not at #19), the year after we picked VHIII to boot, I will give the longest fire-Licht rant in PR history.
I gave the stats before on the high likelihood of the 3rd RB being available at #19…if that’s Cook I think that’s fine. I respect your view @scott, but I think Winston was under too much pressure most of the year without a solid running game…let’s face it, Jacquizz did admirable but he put the fear in no defense; same for all the backups; as for Martin – he’s now a massive question mark. All of that says to me that we need a new RB…it may not be Cook, and it may not be round 1, but we need a new RB.
I am from an old school too – mine says “you win in the trenches”…I would be happy with a lineman on either side (and I’ll even include TE).
My Final Mock:
Ju Ju Smith-Schuster
Anthony Walker Jr.
All these mocks prove, is that no one has any idea how the draft will go down this year. I’ve seen barnett from Tennessee going as high as top 5 and as low as 20. There’s enough talent that it’s harder to pick who goes where. Heck, one guy from cbs sports picked O.J. Howard to fall to us? Now that’s something I’ll bet doesn’t happen. It’s all a crap shoot. Not counting trades, quarterback runs. It’s going to be one of the most interesting drafts I can remember. I’m recording it to watch when I get off of work. So keep your mouth shut and don’t ruin it for me cgmaster. Lol
It’s pretty clear no one has a clue what we’re doing, unless PR knows something the rest don’t (which is very possible).
Personally, I’m hoping Wilson & Casserly are right and McCaffrey slips to us. Even I’ll admit the likelihood of that is low, though. (If McCaffrey isn’t there I would trade down, maybe to the mid-20’s, and take one of the safeties, probably Budda Baker.)
Here is a more comprehensive mock predictor
I hope they are wrong because I just don’t see Dalvin Cook being worthy of a 1st round pick.
I feel Corey Davis will be the best player from this draft but it will take a few years to materialize.
In a draft this deep, trading down makes a lot of sense.
I pick Pewter Report WR / KR Adoree Jackson. He just never drops the ball.
I simply can’t believe some of the stuff I read. I have no idea who the Bucs will take at #19. I do have a few preferences. Like my friend Horse, I’ll support the choice as I have every year and hope for the best. What I can’t comprehend is how anyone who ever watched the Seminoles play the last three years can not come away being totally impressed with Dalvin Cook. I don’t know anything about his friends, his dog, his bumps or his bruises, but I do know what I saw on the field. Sure looked a lot better than anyone in the Bucs RB room.
Scu I think Dalvin is a risky pick, the reason is 3 shoulder injuries in Collage ball. NO DOUBT HE IS A GREAT RB. The way I see him is damaged goods. Alot of Mock drafts have him going in the top of 2nd round.
If you look at him and Marlon Mack VERY SIMILAR both playing and combine stats.
Don’t say that too loud scu or coach Naples will chime in with some condescending argument. He tends to forget we all state our OPINIONS and neither him nor us know for sure. Personally I hate our stable of running backs and would love to have cook on this team. I would also be fine with njoku or defense. Either way, I can’t wait to get off work and watch with baited breath. There’s news going around now that three teams would be interested in swapping with us.
I’m well aware of Naples on-line persona. He just has different rules for others than he does for himself. I mostly enjoy his comments until he just seems to be seeking a argument or just wants to have some “yeah but” retort.
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