The PR Bucs Monday Mailbag is where PewterReport.com’s Mark Cook answers your questions from our Twitter account. You can submit your question each week via Twitter using the hashtag #PRMailbag.
Below are the questions we chose for this week’s edition of the PR Bucs Monday Mailbag. Read them over and offer up your thoughts in the comment section.
Question: Will the Bucs trade up late into the first or early 2nd if they think they cant get Michel, Chubb, etc with their 2nd?
Answer: I would hope so. I think the lack of a consistent running game was one of the biggest issues offensively last season and one reason why Jameis Winston had some hurdles. You don’t have to run for a 150 yards every game, but it sure is nice to at least have the threat of being able to do it. And I don’t think it is any coincidence that the Bucs were playing better – Winston in particular – after the team kind of settled on Peyton Barber as the featured back late last season.
I have no idea how good the defense will be in 2018. And even if they are improved, I am not sure they come out of the gate on fire. To me this is why making the offense the absolute best it can be is so imperative. If you need to win games early in shootout fashion, then so be it. You can’t leave any chinks in the armor so to say. Finding a stud running back will give this offense a good shot at being a Top 5 or better offense in the NFL. You can win a lot of football games if you can average 26 or more points.
Question: Do you see DeSean Jackson attending OTA’s this year to have a better chemistry with Jameis Winston?
Answer: Should he? You bet. Will he? I wouldn’t count on it.
There is no way to really know until the voluntary OTAs start, so we will have to wait and see. But if I have to guess, I believe he will be strongly encouraged to attend by the organization. All you have to do is look at the tape from last season to see the deficiencies and lack of chemistry between the two and it is a legitimate question to ask, could they have been better with more offseason work?
Dirk Koetter said it in the breakfast he had with us last week – there were plays left all over the field between the two. That has to get better. But also the way Jackson is used has to also get better. He doesn’t have to be strictly a go-route player. He has terrific burst and can take a five-yard pass and turn it into a 60-yard completion with things like shallow drags, crossing routes etc.
I believe Koetter is in the lab every day looking at this offense and salivating at the possibilities. Especially with Cameron Brate back and O.J. Howard entering his second season. Then there’s Mike Evans, Adam Humphries and Chris Godwin who emerged late last season. With a hopefully improved offensive line, the sky is the limit offensively.
Question: Considering Arizona’s Steve Keim and Jason Licht’s history, in a trade down scenario with Arizona, what would we get back? Who would we target at 15?
Answer: There certainly is a mutual respect and strong friendship between the two and that could at least get some dialogue started, but I don’t know that it would be any more than with any other team. Friendship aside, both of these guys want to keep their jobs and are not going to do each other any favors necessarily.
Losing that third round pick for Jason Pierre-Paul was something Licht hated to give up, but as we have stated numerous times before, were you going to find a pass rusher even close to the effectiveness that JPP should provide with a third rounder in the draft? That is extremely unlikely. So to me it was a great move. With that said, if they can recoup that pick with a trade back, then it would be tempting.
I really think it would be more likely if the “Big 3” are all gone(Bradley Chubb, Quenton Nelson, Saquon Barkley). I think then the temptation to move back gets stronger. As far as what you get, it depends on how bad the other team wants to move back. Those trade value charts are only as good as what the other team is willing to pay. I think going from No. 7 to No. 15 would take a No. 2 and a No. 3. At least if I am the Licht. Maybe next year’s No. 2, but I wouldn’t drop back that far only to recoup the No. 3 lost in the JPP trade.
As far as potential guys at 15 that could be targeted if your scenario played out, Vita Vea, Derwin James, Marcus Davenport, Isiah Wynn or even one of the running backs might be options.
Question: Why does it seem the Bucs always move up instead of back in the drafts? When did we last move back besides VHIII?
Answer: Although it isn’t out of the question the Bucs could move up this year, in the first round at least. But I think it is more likely they move back a little. I think the first 15 players are as strong in this draft as any we have seen in recent years.
Now once you get out of the first round then the move up game increases. In the first round you kind of know what the needs and tendencies of the other teams picking are. But after that, teams identify fits and holes that need to to be filled and then you see them get perhaps a little impatient and start moving up. And also the price to move up a few spots, say in the third round, is considerably less that moving up in the first round.
Licht has stated that he is comfortable staying at No. 7 but isn’t ruling out the possibility of moving or or back later this month.
Mark Cook currently is the director of editorial content and Bucs beat writer and has written for PewterReport.com since 2011. Cook has followed the Buccaneers since 1977 when he first began watching football with his Dad and is fond of the 1979 Bucs team that came within 10 points of going to a Super Bowl. His favorite Bucs game is still the 1979 divisional playoff win 24-17 over the Eagles. In his spare time Cook enjoys playing guitar, fishing, surfing and family time at the beach. In addition, Cook can be found in front of a television or in Doak Campbell any time the FSU Seminoles are playing. Cook is a native of Pinecrest in Eastern Hillsborough County and has written for numerous publications including the Tampa Tribune, In the Field and Ya'll Magazine. Cook can be reached at [email protected]
We are in no way pidgeon holed with RB in the second. If a lineman or secondary player is BPA there we need to go that route. We can draft someone in the fourth or fifth round, then re-address the position next year if it needs work. HB is a low priority position
Apologies, accidentally hit thumbs up again. Please count me as -1 x 100. Thank you 😉
Then you weren’t paying attention last year. I agree with Mark. A good running back makes this a Top 5 offense and 26 points wins a lot of games. Twenty nine points would have won us 10 games last year.
I’m actually in agreement with you and Mark, buddah. My thumbs down x 100 was directed at nybuccguy’s idea that RB was a low priority that could wait to be addressed in the 4th or 5th, which was why I replied to his post because I mistakenly gave it a thumbs up. Guessing you weren’t alone in misunderstanding that. Obviously I need to be more careful when I’m so anxious to give a bad idea the feedback it deserves.
In a very recent interview Coach Koetter said that RB was definitely a priority. We all have opinions, but his counts a bit more than ours.
I can’t understand how one of your highest paid players, on an under achieving team, coming off a bad season, feels it’s O.K. to skip OTA’s. D Jax needs to show up. He’s not coming off any serious injury, didn’t go through a grueling playoff run, doesn’t have to bust his ass, no one does during this time, just be here. I believe this will be D Jax’s last season in Tampa. If I’m Licht, I’d be shopping him to a team like the Rams who seem to be in win now at any cost mode. They were exploring a trade for Odell, D Jax would be much cheaper in salary, and draft compensation, and provide them with the deep ball they seem to be able to hit. Jason, get it done.
If you’ve listened to any talks with the head coach and gm you would have heard D. Jax wasn’t the problem and that he did his job in getting open and catching what was thrown to him. I dont understand why people like you, would rather give away top talent for unknown commodities. Talent and chemistry is what brings championships dammit! Why can’t you guys understand that? Look at film, study the game, know how being that position works. Im seriously trying help you guys understand football becuase it’s clear to me that you haven’t studied the game, just watched it. Gain knowledge in what you speak on before you say crazy things.
@Sheldon, “people like you”???? Really Dude? First off, where do you get off with that kind of statement? We ALL have a right to our own opinion and do not need “people like you” throwing that kind of shade. You certainly think highly of yourself!
Maybe YOU did not pay attention to D-Jax being invisible last year for OTA’s and not getting on the same page with our offense and QB. His”me first” mentality does not reflect what I would want on this Team. If D-Jax is not willing to come in for OTA’s then we don’t want HIM! Timing is very important and if you spent a little time watching or were a student of the Game maybe YOU would see that!
Jackson was not the problem, Fitz had no problem finding and making use of him Winston on the otherhand didn’t even target him that much. Combine that with Winston challenge hitting any receiver in stride..
Jackson was open on many plays and he’s capable of +/- 10 yard corrections on longer passes and Winston still managed to put the ball out of reach on many of his targets. Personally I think Winston has a problem with his vision, like his contact are rotating on him because his accuracy is pretty good in practices.
At any rate on game day he has to do a better job with ball placement on moving targets with all of our receivers. That’s why Evans has so few yards after catch 113y ranked 167th for last year, he’s not slow or particularly easy to tackle by any means. He frequently wrapped up as soon as he catches the ball because he has to stop to catch it, that’s not his fault.
Also to prove the point his catch percentage was higher than Evans last year 55.6% vs 52.2%. He was just targeted a lot less 90 vs 136 times.
I appreciate the persepctive and the data to back it up, but don’t you think with more reps prior to hitting the field on game day that the chemistry and timing would be better? Winston has not trouble and actually connects well with Brate. And truly, Evans YAC has always been bad because he goes down as soon as he catches the ball. I definitly do not believe it is due to Winston’s inaccuracy.
I think the truth/reality lies somewhere in the middle. Winston definitely could improve but his stats don’t lie. He is getting the yardage. He could have had even more if there was more consistent timing with D-Jax. I don’t care for his prima-dona attitude when he is not willing to put in the work WITH his Teammates.
Just take a look at Godwin vs DJax last year. Perfect example of the difference when a player puts in the time and work vs doesn’t
I LIKE THAT IDEA!
I really hope Bucs trade down. We have more needs than picks right now.
I’d love to snag one of the big three, but we need the picks more.
I want one of the big three. Trade down if they are gone by 7. I don’t want to trade down out of the top 12-15 picks though. I think there is a drop off after that. Hopefully this is the highest bucs will be picking for several year and we need to grab a top end player when we have the chance this year. Trading back and still getting Derwin James would be great. I can dream.
All great questions there Mark. Recall hearing that Winston and Jackson have already started working together this off-season, but also wouldn’t be surprised if Desean is “MIA for the OTA’s” (good title, could be his theme song). Do agree if the Big 3 are gone trading back becomes more preferable, though obviously it takes two and the offer has to make sense. Really seems like this draft might be more unpredictable than most in recent memory, though it could be my memory isn’t what it used to be as well. 🙂
Yes D. Jax has been working out with jamis and mike Evans this off-season. He believes in OTAs so he will show up unless a personal issue happens.
Mark Cook, it looks as if we will not be needing your services any longer as Shelson has a direct line to the players and KNOWS that D-Jax “believes in OTA’s” AND “will show up unless a personal issue happens”.
Come on Man, get over yourself!
I agree to a point with Mark, but I think the likelihood that Running Backs: Barkley, Nelson, Chubb, Michel, Guice , Jones and Johnson all being gone by the time the Bucs 2nd round selection comes up is pretty ludicrous.
The Bucs have three obvious holes:
Running Back, Safety and Corner.
Fortunately corner and running back are very deep in this draft.
If the Bucs end up drafting Nelson in the first round it will still leave three major needs on this team going into the 2nd round.
Ideally for me would be if the Bucs draft Derwin James in the first and then hopefully have the opportunity to move back in the 2nd round and pick up a 3rd. In that scenario the Bucs could capitalize on the strength of the draft and get a running back and corner in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
I think it’s likely we trade back, take Derrius Guice, and add additional picks.
Interesting read about Djax were the Bucs even bidding against another team last season. Frankly I wish we could trade him. JMO
If D Jax is not actually working with Jamies and participating in OTA’s I’d rather trade him for whatever picks we can get. Not sure he’s a chemistry fit in the locker room.
For what there worth I have reviewed several mock drafts and lengthly prospect ranking list. Several have Derius Guice to the Buc’s at 38 and several have Guice 2nd off the board behind Barkley. Most rankings have both Guice and Michel first round picks in the mid to late 20’s. Guice has an upcoming Pro Day which may affect his ranking. Ronald Jones out of USC is right in the mix some have him at the end of RD1, some at the beginning. Nick Chubb is buried in the second round with Penny, Kerryon Johnson, Royce Freeman and company dispersed throughout the 3RD & 4TH. Seems the worst thing that could happen if the Buc’s don’t find a trade down partner is a run on backs at the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd. I love the JPP trade, but losing the RD3 pick could be awkward. Of course everything I have have just typed could change tomorrow and will absolutely change by draft day.
The notion of hitting on all of your draft picks in the first three rounds is mistaken. It happens less than 30% of the time. There will be running backs and corners in the 4th round and beyong who prove better than some taken in the first three rounds. Evaluating college football players is not a science.
I went back and studied all Lichts drafts a couple weeks ago. To think he is more likely to trade back than up isnt so. He traded from 9th to 11th in the hargreaves deal. Only because he wanted an extra pick to trade up for aguayo, imo. He is depleting this team of serious talent by continually trading up every year, thinking he is one or two players away.
Lets use the Pamphile trade up as an example. He traded a 7th and a 2015 5th to move up and take pamphile in the 5th in 2014. The nest year that 5th rounder was used on Grady Jarrett in Atl. He would look nice on this team now. Stefon Diggs and Jay Ajayi happened to go a few picks later. Thats one example of many of his trading picks away. He has hurt the depth on this team. Those guys listed would be starters. Its a domino effect which makes him spend more in free agency. He needs to do some breathing excercises before the draft and be patient. A trade back or two is what I want. Here’s to hoping numerous teams send offers to the bucs this year!
Looking backwards to see what did happen sure is easier than looking ahead to speculate on what might happen.
Winston is NOT accurate and can’t throw deep. Instead of getting red of D.Jax maybe u need to get rid of Winston! D.Jax has been good to great on any team he has played on before Winston.
All this talk again about our Offense. What good is an offense if the Defense can’t get off the field? So far we have spent a third-round pick on a defensive end. How do we improve the defense without drafting in the first and second round?
By trading for or signing guys like JPP, Vinny Curry, Beau Allen, Mitch Unrein, Grimes, etc. Agree we still need to draft players for the long-term success of the D, but that doesn’t mean those guys can only be found in the 1st or 2nd round.
Ever hear of injuries; we are far from being prepared on Defense
I doubt very much if Licht will trade down unless he gets some outrageous, desperate offer. The consensus on the off-season was that the Buccaneers had to fix the defense. Certainly, the Buccaneers would have to take Barkley if he were available at 7, but with the Browns holding two picks the liklihood of Barkley being available is between zero and none. That just isn’t going to happen. Nor is there any chance that Chubb will be there. In my opinion, that leaves two potential Pro Bowl players, Nelson and James. There’s been a lot of talk about “the big three”–Chubb, Barkley, and Nelson, but I believe it’s really a big 4. Derwin James belongs in the class of elite potential and we need a safety who can cover, tackle, and blitz. He is an elite talent as the guys at Football Outsiders recently observed. They think he is a good bet to be the defensive rookie of the year if he stays healthy. So do I. We need him more than we need Nelson. I won’t complain if Nelson is the pick, but I would prefer James. Both will be elite players, but if we pass on both of them simply to pick up an additional pick in the third round, we will regret it. James will make this defense feared. Nelson will vastly improve the running game. After these two, you’re in maybe, perhaps, let’s hope territory. If you want to pick up an additional pick, do it in the second round unless these two are gone.
Really good analysis. I agree James in first in line to make it a big 4, but I think we might be able to trade down and still get James if the big 3 are gone by 7.
The trade value for moving from 7 to 15 would be Arizona’s second round pick plus a sixth round pick.
Using the older Point Chart, the NYJ’s gave up the the equivalent of a low 1st rnd pick (840 pts) in extra point compensation to move from 6 to 3. Believe it’s understood among teams that if you’re moving up for a QB, it costs extra. AZ has a 1(15), 2(47), two 3’s (79 & 97) and a 4 (134). Would expect the price to include three or four of these.
Tonight I found an unbiased rating of each NFL Team’s drafting for the last five years. The lowest rating was a C minus for the Cleveland Browns by Lindy’s 2018 Draft Issue. Since four of the last five drafts by the Bucs were chosen by Licht he had 80 per cent ownership of their rating of the Bucs last five drafts. To hear the biased evaluation by a Glazier Brother you would expect at least a B Plus grade for us, wouldn’t you? But here is the true unbiased reality instead: the next worst grade by Lindy’s was “C” and they rated four NFL Teams had a five year grade of C and our Tampa Bay Buccaneers was one of the four that rated C. It didn’t have any consideration of Licht’s well known Free Agent Failures over the last four years, or we may have come out lower than the Browns. That is reality!
It being unbiased doesn’t make it reality, it makes it an opinion, just like yours, mine and everyone else’s.
This happens every year. We all listen to the “experts” continually regurgitate the same names over and over to the point that we start to think there are only a half dozen players worthy of drafting in the first round. Here, we’re now focusing on only three players “The Big 3” and thinking if we somehow we don’t land one of them we’re doomed to choose a second rate prospect. Of course according to Mike Seven, all of this woe is because we defeated the Saints in the season finale.
There are a lot of players (certainly more than three) who can improve our roster. Virtually any position except QB, TE, WR, LB and P will be options in each round. Then there’s the undrafted free agents where Jason Licht has discovered guys like Brate and Humphries.
Each Draft class has to be viewed in its’ entirety. There will be a dozen or so rookies brought into the fold. There are sure to be both successes and failures among them. Let’s refrain from being disappointed when the last of the “Big 3” is taken before we’re on the clock.
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