Going into Week 8 the Buccaneers currently sit at a record of 2-4. It hasn’t been the season they hoped six games in, but there are plenty of games left to figure out what this team is really made of.

The most important ingredient to the recipe of what they are made of is at quarterback. At times this season, Jameis Winston has been spectacular. There was a three game stretch between the first Panthers game and the Rams game where Winston threw 10 touchdowns to just two interceptions, amassed almost 1,000 yards through the air, and maintained a good completion percentage. In other games, such as the Niners game and the last game against the Panthers, his turnovers turned out to hurt the team more than they could overcome.

Hot and cold has been the story of Winston’s career so far in Tampa Bay, and when asked about how Arians sees Winston’s future – more importantly what role Arians might have in Winston’s fate either staying or going this offseason – Arians was candid, as usual.

“I will not lie, that’s for sure,” Arians said when asked what he would tell front office/the Glazers if they asked him about Winston this offseason.

Following the Bucs’ turnover-driven loss to the Panthers, a game where Winston threw five interceptions and lost a fumble, Arians said that it didn’t change his mind on whether Winston could be a franchise quarterback or not, something he has spoken highly of with Winston before. But Arians did say that if it happens again it will worry him.

The future is unknown with Winston. He’s had some of the best games of in his career in 2019, yet he can’t seem to shake the poor performances that divide them.

Whatever Arians’ honest assessment of Winston will be over these next 10 games, he won’t shy away from making it known.

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Trevor Sikkema is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat reporter and NFL Draft analyst for PewterReport.com. Sikkema, an alumnus of the University of Florida, has covered both college and professional football for much of his career. As a native of the Sunshine State, when he's not buried in social media, Sikkema can be found out and active, attempting to be the best athlete he never was. Sikkema can be reached at: [email protected]

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  1. It’s getting old hearing the Bucs talk about the same thing…..is Winston it or not? Better off if we moved on.

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  2. I am sure Arians true thoughts are quite different from his words to press.
    Inside I think Arians is terrified about losing his reputation trying to save a day one BUST.

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  3. First time in a press conference I have picked up Winston’s body language as having some doubt as to what he’s actually saying he believes. Could be some anxiety and panic going on right now for him.

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  4. See ya turn over machine!

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  5. Please just do us fans a favor and get a new qb. We can have a rookie turn the ball over this much but Atleast when they have a good game we can have hope. We all know deep down that we all cringe on every throw with Jameis. He has thrown 2 int or more in every 1.4 games played. On top of his 68 Interceptions in 62 games I just found a stat I thought was a mistake. He has 43 fumbles also. 19 were lost but still 43 fumbles. That was 24 other could have went any way because fumbles are 50/50. And he averages 1.4 turnovers a game versus 1.75 tds a game. He is barely treading g above being a total negative in the field. He Has 22 more tds then turnovers in 4and 1/2 years. Most top qbs ha e 22 more tds than turnovers every year. Jameis is the problem. Just like freeman was the problem what an have we had that went on to had success elsewhere. None we all just think are qbs are better than they are because we want to believe in them. Jameis is holding us back he is horrible. Just go do what I did and look at his game logs it is scary. He will probably throw 3 picks Sunday. Knowing he is on a short leash. Or like I said before the coaches will nueter him and he will still throw one pick in a crucial moment. In the words of the liberals he is not my quarterback

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    • Matt Ryan is on pace to have his worst career year or at least match his worst career year in INTs with Koetter back as OC in Atlanta. Think we need to give BA a little more time than 6 games to help Winston get rid of some bad habits he developed under 3 years of Koetter as a HC.

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      • Yes BA should have the time he needs. But, NO-WAY can you blame Winston’s turnover problems on Koetter. He has been a turnover machine for the better part of a decade now going back to his days at FSU.

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  6. This franchise is stuck in the doldrums. They need to dump Licht and Winston. But Licht will stay because of Arians. Winston will get yet one more year after this one. I’ll not spend one more dime on this franchise. I’ll watch them on TV while getting drunk to ease my Sunday’s pain.

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  7. What worried me most about Winston in the last game, was that he looked lost out there after his pics.

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  8. Thought BA handled the questions about Winston very well. Hopefully what’s going on behind the scenes is helping Winston turn the corner and be the consistently good QB we all see he has potential to be.

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  9. Ten games, the clocks ticking.

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  10. I am so tired of this because it isn’t rocket science or trying to figure out the algorithms of Wall Street treading or even worse, You Tube.
    When Winston is under heavy pressure like he was against the 49ers and the Panthers he throws interceptions, just like any other QB in the league.
    When the offensive line does a reasonably good job protecting him, especially like they did against the Rams, he throws for a bunch or yardage and TDs.
    It also helps that when he gets under constant duress, you shorten the route tree and the time it takes to get rid of the ball. Something they definitely didn’t do against the Panthers in the second game.
    The same works for the other side of the ball.
    The DBs aren’t getting chewed up because they can’t cover, it’s because the defensive front isn’t getting enough pressure on the QB.
    We have an aging RT who is playing his guts and heart out but his body can’t do what it once used too. Our RG was progressing, but a broken are will hamper that development and in his place is another aging player.
    Winston hasn’t failed this team, Licht has.
    He has had six drafts to straighten out the same problems that has plagued this team since he took over and we are talking about the same issues.
    His drafts have been poor in regards to the trenches and blue collar workers, his 2106 draft was a disaster, and his free agent pickups, aside from a couple of UFA’s, have been average at best. His trades have been good but short lived but since his drafts have been so poor, at least they were better than watching him squander another draft pick on a slow soft DB. (See Vernon Hargreaves and MJ Stewart).
    You want a better QB performance, give Winston a better line to protect him. It’s as simple as that.
    All this is other talk is just inane, boring and tedious.
    Fire Licht!

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    • I agree with you on “fire Licht”…and all the reasons you gave for that. He really has had head scratching strategies to how you build and fix a team.

      Normally I wouldn’t play hindsight, but I can’t help but think how much better our team would be with these obvious decisions (that many of the pundits and many of us here on PR called repeatedly for):
      – Quenton Nelson at RG (instead of Vea & MJ Stewart)…yes Licht would have had to make a trade up 1 slot.
      – Gabe Jackson at LG (instead of Charles Sims at RB)
      – Marpet at Center (save the cap on Jensen’s uber-expensive deal)
      – Jack Conklin at RT (instead of VHIII and Aguayo)…again, yes a trade up 1 slot.
      – sign Jonathan Jones (tender a 2nd rounder to NE…Sean Murphy Bunting)…use that money saved on Jensen.

      With just those moves, our OLine would be one of the best in the league (even if we (cough) kept D Smith at LT), and we would have an actual CB#1 (one of the best in the league). There were of course lots of other decisions along the way that could have been made….but those ones above left me (and I’m sure others) scratching our heads, wondering what the heck Licht was doing.

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  11. The argument could be made that a lot of Winston’s turnovers are the result of bad route running, poor OLine blocking, poor pass catching, etc. On the other hand, many of his (and no, I don’t have any counts on any of this) interceptions were his own fault due to poor decision making or quite simply bad throws. Should the Jets move on from Darnold after Monday night? Should the Browns already be rethinking Mayfield? There is so much involved in how the Bucs have lost games over the past 4 years that I don’t know if it’s fair to put it all on Winston and call him a 5 year bust. And don’t give me that “he’s forced to throw a hundred times a game because he’s playing from behind” argument. So? EVERY team plays from behind without making the mistakes he’s made so just stop it. And that brings us to why we’re sitting on the fence. Give him a clean pocket and he throws an INT. Make him scramble and he throws a TD. Unless he’s playing against press zone single high safety blitz on a Sunday. Then all bets are off?

    All us fans want is consistency. What we saw in weeks 2-5 was better than we could have ever hoped to see out of Winston. Why were those weeks so good? We knew it wouldn’t last, and it didn’t. But as a fan it’s hard to watch or listen to a game knowing that with each pass, the chances of him throwing a pick are so much higher than everyone else, his fault or not. Why? That’s why Arians makes the big bucks. To find out why he keeps trying to win the game on every throw, or stands in the pocket too long, or has his arm cocked like the Statue of Liberty play only to get strip sacked. The kid has talent. We all know this. It’s his lack of consistency that has us baffled.

    My personal opinion is that at the end of this season, with Arians having a full “in your face” Bucs experience, he combs all of the dead weight out of the roster, gives this team the best chance to win with his boy on a franchise tag, and heads into 2020 with a full head of steam. He tried to make it work with the current roster and some hand picked gems, but it’s not working. If they STILL are having trouble with turnovers and bad decisions, then cut him and tank for the next big thing. Arians will re-retire, Bowles will be offered the HC job but turn it down, Leftwich will go back to golfing, and we will present the job to Nick Saban and see who comes out of the college ranks to lead the Bucs to another 5-11 season in 2021.

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  12. – Bad choices (whom to throw to, suggesting poor field vision and an inability to anticipate or work through the route tree)

    Bad ball placement (all you have to do is pay attention to details and compare to true franchise level QBs)

    Bad ball security (aka human turnover machine for virtually his entire career)

    Blank look on his face suggesting he simply does not understand why he’s making so many mistakes.

    No one can fix that. Even if you get rid of Bust Licht and build a better team around Winston he’s going to lose games that we should win, preventing us from going anywhere in playoffs, and consistently bad ball placement will keep us from getting what called plays can yield.

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  13. Matador, the problem with your jaundiced statement is after 6 years of Licht, we ought to be able to know if what you say is true. But because of him we don’t.
    The reason the Titans benched Mariota is because they gave him an offensive line to block for him, a RB to take pressure off him and a defense to keep the score down and he still couldn’t cut it. Winston has never had any of the three.
    bucianco, you say you liked his performance in games two through five. The answer why lies in my post.

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  14. Arians is calm and staying the course. He is saying absolutely nothing to discourage Winston which is the smart thing to do. He is telling the truth as much as he can which is the right thing to do. I think Arians is a breath of fresh air for this franchise, as he tells it like it is. He has already said it cannot happen again (his disaster in London). At least not this year, if he wants another contract as a starter. I think that was an honest statement. I think he wants Winston to learn from this and will give another contract if he does. The question many fans have (and have already decided) is that in their hearts, they don’t believe he can change. Arians may believe this as well at this point but he has nothing to lose by supporting his QB to the end of the season. We just have to watch and see if Winston blows up again – if he does, you know pretty much what will happen end of year. Ten games until we know the answer.

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  15. By the way, you can all say “Fire Licht” until you turn blue in the face. It won’t happen until Arains succeeds and then he won’t be fired or if he fails and is fired (unless health becomes an issue). It is why they both have the same exact contract – four years with a fifth year option. To waste your breath saying Licht should be fired is a true waste of time because it won’t happen – at least not yet.

    https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2019/08/17/bucs-signed-general-manager-jason-licht-to-a-new-five-year-deal/

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  16. Give me a thumbs down, don’t care – the facts are the facts and if you don’t like them, too bad.

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