I see miyagi still mad
I see miyagi still mad
Still got nothin'?Figured as much.Doesn't appear this thread went as you hoped. Lol"The ACC doesn't suck! FSU beat Bama in 2007! FSU beat the crap out of the entire conference! That means there's parity! Duke almost beat A&M!"LMFAO
What kind a kind of dog is that?
What was the acc's bowl record this year?
5-6, a .455 winning percentage. Only better than the piss-poor Big Ten among AQ conferences.
FSU under Fisher.....vs. teams from the ACC28-7.800vs. non-ACC FBS teams (excludes his 5-0 record vs. FCS teams)12-3.800What am I missing?
What am I missing?
A sense of hypocrisy, shame, and common rationale.
What am I missing?
A sense of hypocrisy, shame, and common rationale.
Just stating facts on Fisher's tenure as a head coachCould it be that despite being an outstanding conference the SEC the reality, at least based on last year wasn't quite as dominating as in the past?FSU beat AU which was the SEC champion and was the SEC best team record wise from the SEC.Bama lost to OU and AuburnClemson knocked of Ohio State and Georgia.UGA lost to Nebraskauf didn't go bowling and had arguably the worst loss in the modern era of football to Georgia Southern along with a good beating by FSU and MIami for a 4-8 season.Duke gave TAMU everything and more just like TAMU did for the rest of the SEC. Yes Duke lost a nail biter but was absolutely destroyed by FSU.Don't you just love the Off Season FSU is enjoying? :DPerhaps the ACC though not as good as the SEC overall isn't quite as bad as alleged?
I've changed my mind...the acc is awesome. Should be included in a best ever debate.
I've changed my mind...the acc is awesome. Should be included in a best ever debate.
Nope No one is ready to state that unless we are talking about Basketball which will be even better in 2015 with Louisville on board.Just blanket statements that the ACC sucks are silly and sound like sour grapes from certain fans of the SEC. Fear not the ACC isn't close to replacing the SEC as top dog no matter how much fear that a bit of its invincibility was lost by FSU and couple of ACC teams (Clemson and Miami) in their victories over signature SEC teams.With every SEC team having at least 2 losses last season I think Bobby's quote back in the early 90's actually came to fruition last season. "ITS TOUGH TO WIN IN THE SEC" actually was a truthful statement. It took 20 years but Bobby finally was prophetic.On that note it does appear that many of those SEC annual "cream puffs" (Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Kentucky, Miss St and Ole Miss) are going to get better. Likewise, Missouri and Texas A&M certainly showed that even in their infancy as SEC members they can compete fine with the big boys of the conference. That they barely made waves in the old Big 12 certainly brings a few more doubters to the alleged "EVERY SEC TEAM IS LIKE AN NFL TEAM COMPARED TO OTHER BCS CONFERENCES" being a truthful assertion. I expect UF certainly will be better next season since there is nowhere to go but up from last year's nightmare season but it won't be easy.JMO but I believe that in the very near future the SEC might have a 3 loss champion in the near future or at least a 2 loss one. How that will be perceived with those selecting teams for the new 4 team playoff will be interesting? Again, JMO but in a contest between (Wins and Losses) versus perception the former wins.Given the choice of 1 loss teams in the Pac 12, B1G, New Big 12, and ACC would a (2) loss SEC team be left out? That indeed will be interesting and I believe the timing of those 2 losses will be the determiner. Of course the fact that all SEC teams get a seriously inflated Poll ranking each pre season does tend to aid them tremendously especially if they suffer those 2 losses early.Bama still appears to be a rung above the other SEC members but not by near as big of a margin as FSU over the ACC at this time.Life is good for all Nole fans! :D
Bama still appears to be a rung above the other SEC members but not by near as big of a margin as FSU over the ACC at this time.
Yet the ACC has more parity than the SEC, amirite?
Perhaps the ACC though not as good as the SEC overall isn't quite as bad as alleged?
Yet, you refuse to answer the question of which conference(s) is/are worse.You cherry-picking clown.Yes the SEC wasn't as good as they have been in recent years, yet they were still the best conference, top to bottom, and a MUCH better conference than the ACC, as a whole.
With every SEC team having at least 2 losses last season I think Bobby's quote back in the early 90's actually came to fruition last season. "ITS TOUGH TO WIN IN THE SEC" actually was a truthful statement. It took 20 years but Bobby finally was prophetic.
Yes, it's finally tough to win in the SEC. lolLet's all praise give Bobby Bowden the credit he deserves for knowing that the SEC was the best conference, and choosing to join another!!
