Bucs are favored because they have the most talent and have owned the shit division post Brees
But....the Bucs absolutely collapsed last year so what it a supernatural funk like the Eagles back in 2023 which resulted in Bowles only playoff win or is it a sign of things to come.
i know i wouldn't bet the Bucs....little reward given those odds and it's not a forgone conclusion like it should have been for the 2025 season.
this isn't a flex like you think it is....the fact that the Bucs aren't forgone conclusion is a sad state of affairs of where this team was just a calendar year ago coming off a top 5 offense, double digit win season
Didn't they have Atlanta last year?
Do you mean Vegas odds? Was Atlanta favored last year?
Yea why I was asking. They might not have been. But Vegas can be wrong too.
Didn't they have Atlanta last year?
Do you mean Vegas odds? Was Atlanta favored last year?
Yea why I was asking. They might not have been. But Vegas can be wrong too.
Oh they may have been but I didnt recall so thats why i wondered.
agree, Vegas wrong plenty lol
this isn't a flex like you think it is
If you mean me, definitely not a Bowles flex. LMAO Just a bit of gallows humor given the mentality on the board right now.
In my view early odds are extra meaningless, but i recalled that some here - yourself included - have quote odds as proof of good or bad. The 2022 season was supposed to be a Super Bowl because of the odds when Brady came back . . even though that team was in total disarray and so was Brady.
This is a little like that. The Panthers won the division in 2025 but really "collapsed" into it, just less so than the Bucs collapsed out of it lol. So, I get why they are not in the top position with early odds. The Bucs are though because . . . as much as posters here HATE to acknowledge it . . before last season the Bucs were the division champs for several years under Bowles and the Bucs were heavily injured last year SO its easy for Vegas to sell a lot of bets with the breakdown above.
A healthy Bucs team is probably the best team in the division BUT the huge unknown is how the team will respond to Bowles given the collapse last season. Early success a key.
Anything Vegas says before training camp is pretty much meaningless.
Didn't they have Atlanta last year?
Do you mean Vegas odds? Was Atlanta favored last year?
Yea why I was asking. They might not have been. But Vegas can be wrong too.
Oh they may have been but I didnt recall so thats why i wondered.
agree, Vegas wrong plenty lol
Bucs were favored last year, Atlanta was second
sure many pundits had Atlanta as surprised upset but there was also guys like Pete Prisco and Nick Wright who had Bucs in the Superbowl.
I dont know the exact odds but Bucs were pretty heavy favorites heading into the 2025 season. I dont think it was forgone conclusion type territory but it was pretty clear who they thought would win division
this isn't a flex like you think it is
If you mean me, definitely not a Bowles flex. LMAO Just a bit of gallows humor given the mentality on the board right now.
In my view early odds are extra meaningless, but i recalled that some here - yourself included - have quote odds as proof of good or bad. The 2022 season was supposed to be a Super Bowl because of the odds when Brady came back . . even though that team was in total disarray and so was Brady.
This is a little like that. The Panthers won the division in 2025 but really "collapsed" into it, just less so than the Bucs collapsed out of it lol. So, I get why they are not in the top position with early odds. The Bucs are though because . . . as much as posters here HATE to acknowledge it . . before last season the Bucs were the division champs for several years under Bowles and the Bucs were heavily injured last year SO its easy for Vegas to sell a lot of bets with the breakdown above.
A healthy Bucs team is probably the best team in the division BUT the huge unknown is how the team will respond to Bowles given the collapse last season. Early success a key.
The Bucs are in a bad division but have a serviceable type talent team. Baker is a top 15-20QB territory which is still better than any of the other 3 teams quarterbacks. Heading into the 2025 season, Baker was a top 10 QB. if he can get back to playing at that level, then Bucs will win the division, talent deficiency and all on defense. If 2024 season proves to be a fluke, which currently would look that way, then yeah, Bucs could easily lose the division like we saw in 2025 season.
The Bucs haven't done enough so far in this early offseason so have a defense that can overcome average QB play. The draft will help but wont move the needle. Getting a Crosby will help as well as maybe that puts Bucs in drivers seat for division but absent that...they would need a Baker resurgence to put some distance between them and teams like Atlanta or Carolina.
The Bucs have not done enough in free agency to move the needle. The only reason is Mayfield is the one that can pull the Bucs out of the gutter if he is healthy.
I'm not super interested in vegas odds until rosters are finalized. So much can happen between now and September
Bucs were +150 last year
It's a toss up.
When I read the title I thought it was odds for first coach to be fired.
If 2024 season proves to be a fluke, which currently would look that way, then yeah, Bucs could easily lose the division like we saw in 2025 season.
the difference between 2024 and 2025 is a completely different offense and massively different health outcome, most importantly on the O-line. And a yhear of 204 film showed the easy way to destroy the Bucs defense . . . TE and RBs
If Baker plays like he played the last half of last season, The Bucs are in trouble.
If Baker plays like he played the last half of last season, The Bucs are in trouble.
Unless his injuries are lingering, there is no reason to think this will be the case.
Bucs were +150 last year
It's a toss up.
Considering the way the last 5-6 weeks of the season played out, plus their offseason thus far, taking the Saints at those odds isn’t a bad play.