Austin has made like 2 big plays all year but rookie so whatever. Blackmon maybe. Crabtree is not a an elite WR.Roy W had one good year. To me that looks like 4 hits and a whole swarm of misses. You couple that with the fact that I don't think WR is a spot that changes the fortunes of this team and that I'm not sure the top WR's in this draft are in the Julio, AJ, Calvin, Andre level of stud-om and I'd look elsewhere but like you said there are, hopefully, a lot of juniors who can declare who might change this.
Austin has made like 2 big plays all year but rookie so whatever. Blackmon maybe. Crabtree is not a an elite WR.Roy W had one good year. To me that looks like 4 hits and a whole swarm of misses. You couple that with the fact that I don't think WR is a spot that changes the fortunes of this team and that I'm not sure the top WR's in this draft are in the Julio, AJ, Calvin, Andre level of stud-om and I'd look elsewhere but like you said there are, hopefully, a lot of juniors who can declare who might change this.
Yea, fair enough. I mean, the only guy I would consider absolutely elite is Sammie Watkins. I think we place him in the slot (or move Mike Williams into the slot) and he adds the extra option our offense so desperately lacks - which is also what I think would change the fortunes of the team. We need that guy on offense who is match up mismatch. We have that in Vjax on deep balls, but that isn't a consistent enough approach and has led to some of the inconsistency we have seen on offense over the year. I think being able to find match ups for Watkins, Mike Williams and Vjax with another teams 3 corners will go a long ways towards helping out Glennon and making us better offense.The other guy who interests me, but not as a WR necessarily, is Mike Evans. He was recruited to play H-Back/TE out of high school, but was just so athletic A&M put him at WR. He's got the frame to add weight, and he could also become that match up nightmare for us in the Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates type mold.
I have NO proof of this, but my memory suggests that MW often has alligator arms and can shy away from contact when trying to catch passes across the middle... which is a bad attribute for a slot receiver in my mind. I also think VJ has been guilty of alligator arms this year. Once again, no proof and as I age my memory isn't perfect :-)
Austin has made like 2 big plays all year but rookie so whatever. Blackmon maybe. Crabtree is not a an elite WR.Roy W had one good year. To me that looks like 4 hits and a whole swarm of misses. You couple that with the fact that I don't think WR is a spot that changes the fortunes of this team and that I'm not sure the top WR's in this draft are in the Julio, AJ, Calvin, Andre level of stud-om and I'd look elsewhere but like you said there are, hopefully, a lot of juniors who can declare who might change this.
Yea, fair enough. I mean, the only guy I would consider absolutely elite is Sammie Watkins. I think we place him in the slot (or move Mike Williams into the slot) and he adds the extra option our offense so desperately lacks - which is also what I think would change the fortunes of the team. We need that guy on offense who is match up mismatch. We have that in Vjax on deep balls, but that isn't a consistent enough approach and has led to some of the inconsistency we have seen on offense over the year. I think being able to find match ups for Watkins, Mike Williams and Vjax with another teams 3 corners will go a long ways towards helping out Glennon and making us better offense.The other guy who interests me, but not as a WR necessarily, is Mike Evans. He was recruited to play H-Back/TE out of high school, but was just so athletic A&M put him at WR. He's got the frame to add weight, and he could also become that match up nightmare for us in the Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates type mold.
Austin has made like 2 big plays all year but rookie so whatever. Blackmon maybe. Crabtree is not a an elite WR.Roy W had one good year. To me that looks like 4 hits and a whole swarm of misses. You couple that with the fact that I don't think WR is a spot that changes the fortunes of this team and that I'm not sure the top WR's in this draft are in the Julio, AJ, Calvin, Andre level of stud-om and I'd look elsewhere but like you said there are, hopefully, a lot of juniors who can declare who might change this.
Yea, fair enough. I mean, the only guy I would consider absolutely elite is Sammie Watkins. I think we place him in the slot (or move Mike Williams into the slot) and he adds the extra option our offense so desperately lacks - which is also what I think would change the fortunes of the team. We need that guy on offense who is match up mismatch. We have that in Vjax on deep balls, but that isn't a consistent enough approach and has led to some of the inconsistency we have seen on offense over the year. I think being able to find match ups for Watkins, Mike Williams and Vjax with another teams 3 corners will go a long ways towards helping out Glennon and making us better offense.The other guy who interests me, but not as a WR necessarily, is Mike Evans. He was recruited to play H-Back/TE out of high school, but was just so athletic A&M put him at WR. He's got the frame to add weight, and he could also become that match up nightmare for us in the Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates type mold.
I find the idea of Evans at TE interesting - I bet his agent won't like it. I agree than Watkins looks to be the only potentially elite guy. I find the idea if Jordan Matthews at the top of R2 interesting because I think we need a guy who is more effective short and intermediate. VJax and MW19 let us get vertical but we don't have a blitz beater on short routes. He reminds me of a larger Reggie Wayne.
In terms of pure needs on this team, for me, it's:1. QB 2. DE3. G4. TE5. WRBut that doesn't mean we'll be able to fulfill them in that order or in some cases at all. My thinking on these goes like this:QB - It may be that Glennon is our best option going forward, but whether it's Glennon/FA/draft pick, this position has to be better in 2014. Improving the QB play has to be the #1 priority this offseason. If we aren't kicking the tires on every QB in the draft, we aren't doing our job. Personally, I like Bridgewater early (but virtually zero chance for us), but I don't have a good feel where I'd rank the rest. I'd think hard about drafting Mettenberger if he fell far enough due to the knee. DE - A close second. Other than Clowney, not sure I like any of early options - I feel like there are too many tweener/OLB pass-rusher types, and frankly I don't trust our coaching staff to squeeze the most out of them. G - Just abysmal this year. I don't know why a segment of this board is so gung-ho about Meredith - I think we should be improving the starters and depth here. I'd love to have Nicks back if possible, but while I appreciate Joseph for everything not related to the actual game, he's killing us. Obviously not recommending pick 7 going to a G, but it's a huge need on this team. I don't have T on this list - I do think we could upgrade there given some good options at T in the draft, but I feel like we can survive with what we've got, especially if we bolster the interior.TE - I like Wright quite a bit, but I don't like any of the other options on the team. That said, I'm dubious this is a priority for the team. It's a shame, because it seems like there are good options in the draft.WR - I don't think we are desperate here with Williams coming back, but the 3-5 spots are pretty weak. We also have a situation were are two best WRs are similar in style, and I think we'd benefit from a different sort of player here (somewhat like the G-Men with Nicks-Randle paired with Cruz). I also think it's in our long-term interest to develop a guy to eventually pick up the slack as V-Jax gets older. I like Sammie Watkins a lot. I also love Jordan Matthews - great route runner who attacks the football with his hands. In terms of the draft, at 7 I guess I'm not sold on the OLB/DE crew yet. I see Watkins, Jake Matthews, and Darqueze Dennard as likely the best players available when we draft.
Austin has made like 2 big plays all year but rookie so whatever. Blackmon maybe. Crabtree is not a an elite WR.Roy W had one good year. To me that looks like 4 hits and a whole swarm of misses. You couple that with the fact that I don't think WR is a spot that changes the fortunes of this team and that I'm not sure the top WR's in this draft are in the Julio, AJ, Calvin, Andre level of stud-om and I'd look elsewhere but like you said there are, hopefully, a lot of juniors who can declare who might change this.
Yea, fair enough. I mean, the only guy I would consider absolutely elite is Sammie Watkins. I think we place him in the slot (or move Mike Williams into the slot) and he adds the extra option our offense so desperately lacks - which is also what I think would change the fortunes of the team. We need that guy on offense who is match up mismatch. We have that in Vjax on deep balls, but that isn't a consistent enough approach and has led to some of the inconsistency we have seen on offense over the year. I think being able to find match ups for Watkins, Mike Williams and Vjax with another teams 3 corners will go a long ways towards helping out Glennon and making us better offense.The other guy who interests me, but not as a WR necessarily, is Mike Evans. He was recruited to play H-Back/TE out of high school, but was just so athletic A&M put him at WR. He's got the frame to add weight, and he could also become that match up nightmare for us in the Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates type mold.
I find the idea of Evans at TE interesting - I bet his agent won't like it. I agree than Watkins looks to be the only potentially elite guy. I find the idea if Jordan Matthews at the top of R2 interesting because I think we need a guy who is more effective short and intermediate. VJax and MW19 let us get vertical but we don't have a blitz beater on short routes. He reminds me of a larger Reggie Wayne.
That's a pretty good comparison for Matthews. I'm increasingly skeptical he's going to make it that far. I think he's going to blow people away in the interviews, and his film is great. He seems like a natural for a late first round team like SF, Seattle, KC, or Carolina.
My hope on Matthews is that GM seem to get really stupid on WR and get fascinated with size/speed ratios on them rather than looking at WR skills. I don't think Matthews raw numbers will blow anyone away but he goes and drops a 4.45 at the combine there is no way he lasts to R2.
In terms of the draft, at 7 I guess I'm not sold on the OLB/DE crew yet. I see Watkins, Jake Matthews, and Darqueze Dennard as likely the best players available when we draft.
I don't like Means as a DE, Barr might have a shot but not entirely sold on him with his hand down either. Sadly what we need isn't really going to have a lot of options where we draft. My problem wi Watkins is even if he is elite, we are trying to win by adding yet another WR? We need an upgrade at WR3 but do we need "elite" or just competent. I'm not sure,especially if Rutgers is back, how much gain Watkins gives us over a "lesser" talent at the spot. I think, as it stand right now, we so of look like we are in no mans land on the draft. It feels like a spot that I hope someone loves Bortles or Carr, although I do like Carr, and we can trade back it wouldn't hurt us a lot in terms of value added to the team.
I'm taking BPA if it is a WR, OL, DE, TE, in Round 1; after that it can be anybody's guess. I also believe that Schiano is staying for another year, but not his OC and maybe not his DC; whether we agree with or not with Schiano the bucs will keep him.
I haven't watched Matthews that much to have a strong opinion on him so will rely on you guys who seem to like him.I just want playmakers on both sides of the ball at this point. And agree with Booker on guards. If we get that, next season will hopefully look a lot better than this one.
I haven't watched Matthews that much to have a strong opinion on him so will rely on you guys who seem to like him.I just want playmakers on both sides of the ball at this point. And agree with Booker on guards. If we get that, next season will hopefully look a lot better than this one.
Guard play has been weak for sure. It is a spot where not having that r3 pick hurts. My only issue with Matthew is where. I'm not big fan of Penn because of his inconsistency but he has a big deal and I seem like I am a bit alone in not liking him much. Dotson is doing very well at ROT. Matthews is a left tackle and I don't see any upside to moving him to ROT so is he here to overthrow Penn?
I'm wanting BPA as well, and that's what leads me to Watkins for our pick. I think Barr could possibly fit in at Strong-side backer given he does have sub 4.5 speed. But in our defense, unless we blitz him off the edge a ton (which isn't completely out of the question) his talents which would justify a top 10 selection would be wasted.But likely, Watkins will be staring us in the face as the BPA and only true difference making player left on the board at our pick. To me it fills a need as he's a playmaker. And we need playmakers on offense - especially guys that turn a 5 yard dump off into a 60yard home run. That opens things up for Vjax and MikeWill. It opens up running lanes for Martin. And most importantly it provides another safety blanket option to Glennon. It's only one pick so it won't solve all of our problems, but its also not a wasted pick.However - it is December only. And someone will undoubtedly rise and someone will fall before then. Heck, if we finish 4-12, we might be high enough in the draft to get someone like Clowney who is elite and fills a huge need.
It's a passing league we need another top flight wide out, massive oline (Gabe Jackson etc) if we can't get a first round qb. I'm a fan of TE EBRON as well. Bottom line we need offense
I'm a Vandy guy, so I've seen Matthews play just about as much as you can. I've watched them since 1987, and he's the best player they've ever had. The amazing thing is that he's put up the numbers he has with just marginal QB play (Jordan Rogers and Austyn Carta-Samuels were gritty, solid QBs and leaders but by no means great passers). And especially this year - everybody knows he's going to get the ball. And yet his numbers are incredibly consistent. He doesn't have off-days, and he doesn't pile up insane numbers against terrible teams to skew the stats. He makes the clutch catch routinely - this is 4th and 11 catch against double-coverage. to set up the game-winning FG in the finale against Wake - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWI1mwe1pTQ And then there's this huge catch on 4th and 18 late against Ole Miss, that allowed us to take the lead (we botched it on defense and lost). To put it in context - Matthews had dehydration issues all game and had to leave at one point for an iv. 2 plays before this one, he caught a ball over the middle and was hammered by two rebels and barfed his guts out right on the field. He left for a play, came right back in an did this: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/8/30/4674808/jordan-matthews-catch I only saw him drop one ball that mattered.
I just re-read and realized you were talking about Jake Matthews, JayAuggs.
