Just like New York . . . . frisk for what? Oh . . . guns. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/17/21864122-small-world-of-murder-as-homicides-drop-chicago-police-focus-on-social-networks-of-gangs?lite Is it profiling to assume that known gang members carry guns?"Less than two weeks later, those steps led to the arrest of one of the Rockwell Boys for the shooting. It wasn’t a kid from the original four, but an associate police found through the same network. At the same time, in the days the case was open, McNaughton’s cops were all over the predicted scenes. They made a dozen more arrests than in the same period the year before, catching one of the Rockwell Boys with a gun a block from where they expected the next spree — a shootout that McNaughton says never did happen."Pre-crime intervention clashes with civil liberties, but works , , , because it tends to keep guns off the street, whether by confiscation of fear of confiscation .. . the problem is the civil liberties issue and the manpower required
Except this isn't so much a stop and frisk as it is a statistical analysis of social networks. The simple notion that the are not a lot of murders in most towns so you focus on those violent lead dogs and tap them down. NOLA knows this phenomenon because after a decade of hyper violence they essentially burned up the cohort of young violent offenders because they were all either dead or in jail and the murder rate dropped -- something a professor at LSU predicted would happens years before the drop. The predictive look at those who might be the next victim is a cool feature of the system since retaliation, murder chains, are also known phenomenon among criminologists
Except this isn't so much a stop and frisk as it is a statistical analysis of social networks. The simple notion that the are not a lot of murders in most towns so you focus on those violent lead dogs and tap them down. NOLA knows this phenomenon because after a decade of hyper violence they essentially burned up the cohort of young violent offenders because they were all either dead or in jail and the murder rate dropped -- something a professor at LSU predicted would happens years before the drop. The predictive look at those who might be the next victim is a cool feature of the system since retaliation, murder chains, are also known phenomenon among criminologists
They are using data but in connection with stop and frisk, it's just that the data side is highlighted for its "pre-crime" feel.
Despite your snarky comments Vin I am on board with you on this one. You can't arbitrarily harass people but given a cause to stop someone, I am so on board with stop and frisk. The "cause" however is the sticky point isn't it? There needs to be rules but I do not agree with it being banned completely. I am also on board with swamping crime laden neighborhoods with extra cops. It doesn't have to be "the hood" either, because quite often sh*t A frequently goes from neighborhood B to neighborhood C to commit crime. Now that also runs the risk of racial profiling, so it is a tender subject. Needs a balance.
Why would there be a need to frisk anybody in Chicago? They have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
