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So let me get this straight

 

Bowles who is a defensive guy put his dick on the table against leftwich and Brady to demand a conservative offense and has seen points per game go from 30 to 17 and hasn’t changed up all year?

 

or could it be that Arians had more say than we gave him credit for in the offense, lefty is not that good, offense line is worse and Brady is worse?

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:24 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @bucsbits

The 1st half offense against the Bengals was more the Bengals coming out flat then the Bucs offense being real.   

 

Posted by: @bucsbits

so there are two possibilities to describe the difference between 1st half Bengals and 2nd half Bengals and Arizona 

mine - the Bengals defense adjusted and played better 

yours - despite their success the Bucs OC changed everything 

 

The "?" was answered here, with factual, inarguable data that I'm sure your dumbass will refute:

 

Posted by: @pennywise

For the season, the Buccaneers' play-action rate is 16.2%.

it was 43.5 the first half against the bengals  , the most all year 

They used PA 13.6% against bengals in the second half

 

Completely clueless about what is being discussed.

 

Actually, AS I JUST POINTED OUT in the other thread . .  the Eagles guys whose nuts you're now hugging left this out from the actual article you're now BOTH relying on:

"The Buccaneers only used play-action on 13.6% of Brady's dropbacks in the second half against Cincinnati, though it was the four straight turnovers plus a botched fake punt that led to the Bengals' barrage of unanswered points rather than any particular offensive strategy. The Buccaneers also possessed the ball for just nine of the 30 game minutes in the second half and spent most of the fourth quarter chasing a double-digit lead and eschewing the ground game (and by extension play-action)."

 

PAY ATTENTION:

"The Buccaneers also possessed the ball for just nine of the 30 game minutes in the second half and spent most of the fourth quarter chasing a double-digit lead and eschewing the ground game (and by extension play-action)."

 

 

Saving dogs . .  one kick at a time

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:31 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

The "?" was answered here, with factual, inarguable data that I'm sure your dumbass will refute

 

Yeppers...

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:35 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

or could it be that Arians had more say than we gave him credit for in the offense, lefty is not that good,

 

DING, DING, DING!

We have a winner!

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:35 pm
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Bruce Arian himself suggests HIS SELF-APOINTED HEAD COACH changed everything

ARIANS also previously said this was the MOST talented team he had seen . . .

 

Gronk got NOTHING on Otton!

 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:35 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

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or could it be that Arians had more say than we gave him credit for in the offense, lefty is not that good,

 

DING, DING, DING!

We have a winner!

 

That obviously could be true but that means, logically speaking, the HC was really in control THEN but the HC is not really in control now and the OC who is actually in control NOW . . . just decided he didn't like the success in the 1st half of the Bengal's game so he . . switched it up?

(kidding)

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:40 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

though it was the four straight turnovers plus a botched fake punt that led to the Bengals' barrage of unanswered points rather than any particular offensive strategy.

You mean a particular offensive strategy that didn’t neutralize the pass rush (umm…like play action), the obvious run formations that they ran out of, constantly being behind the sticks, and vanilla long developing route schemes with no spacing on 3rd and long conducive to forcing bad decisions and bad throws?

As I said before, Byron put the lid on the coffin reverting back to his BS play calling. Brady’s turnovers were the nails. 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:41 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @badabingbucs

or could it be that Arians had more say than we gave him credit for in the offense, lefty is not that good,

 

DING, DING, DING!

We have a winner!

 

That obviously could be true but that means, logically speaking, the HC was really in control THEN but the HC is not really in control now and the OC who is actually in control NOW . . . just decided he didn't like the success in the 1st half of the Bengal's game so he . . switched it up?

(kidding)

 

 

Remember Byron’s other year of being an OC without Bruce holding his hand?

How’d that offense look?

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:44 pm
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The "?" was answered here, with factual, inarguable data that I'm sure your dumbass will refute

 

Yeppers...

 

 

The best thing about this is you calling me a dumbass after you just let the Eagles fan take you for an incomplete ride. The article he relied on actually states the OBVIOUS -- as in use your own eyes obvious - reason the PA statistic would be lower.  Its the same point you missed before when you said over and over again "no correlation between running and passing."

LOL

 

Like a wind up toy that pulls its own string

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:44 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

or could it be that Arians had more say than we gave him credit for in the offense, lefty is not that good,

 

DING, DING, DING!

We have a winner!

 

That obviously could be true but that means, logically speaking, the HC was really in control THEN but the HC is not really in control now and the OC who is actually in control NOW . . . just decided he didn't like the success in the 1st half of the Bengal's game so he . . switched it up?

(kidding)

 

 

This is asshat is trying to make the argument that Todd Bowles as HC spends an equal amount of time on the offensive gameplan as Bruce Arians as HC? And then saying that's "logically speaking" to boot?  Bwahahahahaha!

Sweet Geebus, this nitwit will do anything to assuage Byron Leftwich's culpability.  This dingleberry is completely clueless about what is being discussed, with a total lack of shame.

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:50 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @badabingbucs

or could it be that Arians had more say than we gave him credit for in the offense, lefty is not that good,

 

DING, DING, DING!

We have a winner!

 

That obviously could be true but that means, logically speaking, the HC was really in control THEN but the HC is not really in control now and the OC who is actually in control NOW . . . just decided he didn't like the success in the 1st half of the Bengal's game so he . . switched it up?

(kidding)

 

 

Remember Byron’s other year of being an OC without Bruce holding his hand?

How’d that offense look?

 

 

Not defending Leftwich, just saying that there is an obvious disconnect in the logic. Conservative play calling, particularly switching in the Bengals game -- the point you are actually arguing - is more likely a HC thing, right?

What would be the reason for an OC - especially one under fire for low scoring and in need of a new job next year - to suddenly find the way to channel Bruce Arians (according to you) but then just shut it all down?

 

break it down:

 

The Bucs actually come out in 3rd quarter and run for 4 yds (success) and then do what . . go DEEP to Evans (not conservative) with an incomplete and then do what? pass just to RB just short and then FAKE PUNT

the defense hold to a field goal

we come out next series and same thing EXCEPT the pass to the RB is for a FIRST DOWN  but . . . .HOLDING on a  rookie replacement for GRONK (execution, not play call)

20 yards to gain now so we go PASS, PASS and PASS the last being an INT at our 31  . . BAD THROW BY BRADY (execution, Brate is open . . pass is way off the mark) . . . .TD Bengals

every series goes that way

 

POINT: did we actually go conservative? did we just execute terribly?  both?

 

Watch highlight of Brady fumbled handoff and you'll hear Romo say "this is the Buccaneers in a nutshell . .  ball comes out of Brady's hand (it does) . . that one is on Tom"

 

EXECUTION. It was first and 10

 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 2:08 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @badabingbucs

or could it be that Arians had more say than we gave him credit for in the offense, lefty is not that good,

 

DING, DING, DING!

We have a winner!

 

That obviously could be true but that means, logically speaking, the HC was really in control THEN but the HC is not really in control now and the OC who is actually in control NOW . . . just decided he didn't like the success in the 1st half of the Bengal's game so he . . switched it up?

(kidding)

 

 

This is asshat is trying to make the argument that Todd Bowles as HC spends an equal amount of time on the offensive gameplan as Bruce Arians as HC? And then saying that's "logically speaking" to boot?  Bwahahahahaha!

Sweet Geebus, this nitwit will do anything to assuage Byron Leftwich's culpability.  This dingleberry is completely clueless about what is being discussed, with a total lack of shame.

 

 

For any adult , you're use of a fake argument to knock down ("trying to make the argument that Todd Bowles as HC spends an equal amount of time on the offensive gameplan as Bruce Arians , which is known as a "strawman" . . . . is basically a surrender

 

but because you are you . . you actually double down on it with another one LOL ("this nitwit will do anything to assuage Byron Leftwich's culpability") and the only thing missing was "of your ilk."

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 2:12 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Not defending Leftwich

Lolz

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 2:14 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @bucsbits

Not defending Leftwich

Lolz

 

Sorry . . I meant . . not trying to "assuage" his "culpability"

 

 

You and "your ilk" like those words better

 

:-)

 

 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 2:26 pm
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