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Before the comments come, let me say that I think its disgusting to deny someone service based on sexuality, however I think its an even bigger violation of actual rights to force someone to provide services for something that is against their religion, i.e. A Christian baker being forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

If it's against my religion to serve black people, is that defensible?

Tell that to FPL when they turn your lights off because black people, and their Spanish, White, Asian, purple, orange, and green friends stop going to your business. Let someone try that and see how that works out for them.That's bad for business if your intent is to make money.

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:08 am
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Before the comments come, let me say that I think its disgusting to deny someone service based on sexuality, however I think its an even bigger violation of actual rights to force someone to provide services for something that is against their religion, i.e. A Christian baker being forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

If it's against my religion to serve black people, is that defensible?

Tell that to FPL when they turn your lights off because black people, and their Spanish, White, Asian, purple, orange, and green friends stop going to your business. Let someone try that and see how that works out for them.That's bad for business if your intent is to make money.

But, back to the original point of the thread....isn't that what the NFL is essentially doing?  Telling AZ if you pass this law, we are denying you our business and the millions in Super Bowl revenue that comes with it?  Shouldn't that be applauded?

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:11 am
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Roger Godell is gay.........dude sucked over 40mil from the league last season...................now get out there and support this crap...buy a roll of seasons tickets while you pay taxes on your stadium......

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:23 am
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Why would you want to force anybody to serve you tho? Why pay full price for most likely crappy service because the person was unwilling from the start? Somebody else will gladly take your money and give you what you paid for.If they don't want your money screw them. I could see if EVERY business is anti-gay then sure but most businesses are pro-green.

Once it is legalized, entire communities can justify their discrimination and there might not be any opportunities at all

You want to know how to lose ALOT of customers? Announce your moral stance and let everyone know who you will not serve.Gay people won't go there including...Their family members, their friends, pro gay people, and everyone else that doesn't agree with your moral stance.The day Walmart says they won't serve gays, I bet the doors at Target will fly open for them.

That is a legitimate Libertarian argument made often. In other words, market forces will crush businesses who take that approach anyway . . . which begs the question "why the law?" or "why the law in a state without an anti-discrimation statute that includes homosexuals?"

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:25 am
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Roger Godell is gay.........dude sucked over 40mil from the league last season...................now get out there and support this crap...buy a roll of seasons tickets while you pay taxes on your stadium......

Pass whatever you're smoking. It seems like great shit!

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:26 am
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Why would you want to force anybody to serve you tho? Why pay full price for most likely crappy service because the person was unwilling from the start? Somebody else will gladly take your money and give you what you paid for.If they don't want your money screw them. I could see if EVERY business is anti-gay then sure but most businesses are pro-green.

Once it is legalized, entire communities can justify their discrimination and there might not be any opportunities at all

You want to know how to lose ALOT of customers? Announce your moral stance and let everyone know who you will not serve.Gay people won't go there including...Their family members, their friends, pro gay people, and everyone else that doesn't agree with your moral stance.The day Walmart says they won't serve gays, I bet the doors at Target will fly open for them.

That is a legitimate Libertarian argument made often. In other words, market forces will crush businesses who take that approach anyway . . . which begs the question "why the law?" or "why the law in a state without an anti-discrimation statute that includes homosexuals?"

To make a law it's pretty stupid. Let them lose business on their own without the government having to tell them it's ok.

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:30 am
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Why would you want to force anybody to serve you tho? Why pay full price for most likely crappy service because the person was unwilling from the start? Somebody else will gladly take your money and give you what you paid for.If they don't want your money screw them. I could see if EVERY business is anti-gay then sure but most businesses are pro-green.

Once it is legalized, entire communities can justify their discrimination and there might not be any opportunities at all

You want to know how to lose ALOT of customers? Announce your moral stance and let everyone know who you will not serve.Gay people won't go there including...Their family members, their friends, pro gay people, and everyone else that doesn't agree with your moral stance.The day Walmart says they won't serve gays, I bet the doors at Target will fly open for them.

That is a legitimate Libertarian argument made often. In other words, market forces will crush businesses who take that approach anyway . . . which begs the question "why the law?" or "why the law in a state without an anti-discrimation statute that includes homosexuals?"

That approach might make sense in large enough communities to support multiple competing options, but there are many small, rural towns where I don't think it's practical

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:37 am
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Roger Godell is gay.........dude sucked over 40mil from the league last season...................now get out there and support this crap...buy a roll of seasons tickets while you pay taxes on your stadium......

Pass whatever you're smoking. It seems like great **CENSORED**!

Bend over...it's your turn..

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:37 am
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Roger Godell is gay.........dude sucked over 40mil from the league last season...................now get out there and support this crap...buy a roll of seasons tickets while you pay taxes on your stadium......

Pass whatever you're smoking. It seems like great **CENSORED**!

Bend over...it's your turn..

So that's how you got so high smoking that stuff. That's not sanitary to share so I'll pass but your six calls for more!

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:41 am
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Why would you want to force anybody to serve you tho? Why pay full price for most likely crappy service because the person was unwilling from the start? Somebody else will gladly take your money and give you what you paid for.If they don't want your money screw them. I could see if EVERY business is anti-gay then sure but most businesses are pro-green.

Once it is legalized, entire communities can justify their discrimination and there might not be any opportunities at all

You want to know how to lose ALOT of customers? Announce your moral stance and let everyone know who you will not serve.Gay people won't go there including...Their family members, their friends, pro gay people, and everyone else that doesn't agree with your moral stance.The day Walmart says they won't serve gays, I bet the doors at Target will fly open for them.

That is a legitimate Libertarian argument made often. In other words, market forces will crush businesses who take that approach anyway . . . which begs the question "why the law?" or "why the law in a state without an anti-discrimation statute that includes homosexuals?"

That approach might make sense in large enough communities to support multiple competing options, but there are many small, rural towns where I don't think it's practical

Then the business will still lose either way.

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 11:41 am
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Roger Godell is gay.........dude sucked over 40mil from the league last season...................now get out there and support this crap...buy a roll of seasons tickets while you pay taxes on your stadium......

Pass whatever you're smoking. It seems like great **CENSORED**!

Bend over...it's your turn..

So that's how you got so high smoking that stuff. That's not sanitary to share so I'll pass but your six calls for more!

Must be a gay term.........

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 12:09 pm
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Why would you want to force anybody to serve you tho? Why pay full price for most likely crappy service because the person was unwilling from the start? Somebody else will gladly take your money and give you what you paid for.If they don't want your money screw them. I could see if EVERY business is anti-gay then sure but most businesses are pro-green.

Once it is legalized, entire communities can justify their discrimination and there might not be any opportunities at all

You want to know how to lose ALOT of customers? Announce your moral stance and let everyone know who you will not serve.Gay people won't go there including...Their family members, their friends, pro gay people, and everyone else that doesn't agree with your moral stance.The day Walmart says they won't serve gays, I bet the doors at Target will fly open for them.

That is a legitimate Libertarian argument made often. In other words, market forces will crush businesses who take that approach anyway . . . which begs the question "why the law?" or "why the law in a state without an anti-discrimation statute that includes homosexuals?"

That approach might make sense in large enough communities to support multiple competing options, but there are many small, rural towns where I don't think it's practical

that is the tension. One could compare this situation to small diners in small southern towns that only served whites. eventually those small diners would come around, but for quite some time those small towns/diners would be bastions of racism. That said, the photographer case that is referenced in the AZ debate was really, I think, a New Mexico case where they have an anti-discrimination statute that INCLUDES homosexuals as a "protected class," so to speak. In other words, a state that agreed with your point of view and so they passed a statute ..  . which led to a case  . .  that led to a bill, ostensibly.

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 12:42 pm
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The only law they need is to protect business owners from being sued or something for refusing service. If the owner doesn't want your money that's their lost, keep it moving. You wouldn't be satisfied with the service anyway.

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 1:22 pm
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Roger Godell is gay.........dude sucked over 40mil from the league last season...................now get out there and support this crap...buy a roll of seasons tickets while you pay taxes on your stadium......

Pass whatever you're smoking. It seems like great **CENSORED**!

Bend over...it's your turn..

So that's how you got so high smoking that stuff. That's not sanitary to share so I'll pass but your six calls for more!

Must be a gay term.........

What 'six'? That's a military term for what you implied.

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 1:44 pm
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The only law they need is to protect business owners from being sued or something for refusing service.

I have not looked at the bill, but that is precisely as it is portrayed

 
Posted : Feb. 26, 2014 1:51 pm
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