Thing is 2 First round draft picks. Shit you could give me 5 and I still wouldn't take it.
Thank God you're not the Bucs GM. Lol.
If Licht were offered 5 first round draft picks for Baker and he passed, the entire city of Tampa (at least the smart ones) would riot and burn OBP down to the ground.
Thing is 2 First round draft picks. Shit you could give me 5 and I still wouldn't take it.
Thank God you're not the Bucs GM. Lol.
If Licht were offered 5 first round draft picks for Baker and he passed, the entire city of Tampa (at least the smart ones) would riot and burn OBP down to the ground.
JL has “professional training…I don’t, I’m more scared I’d screw the picks up” if I knew I could hit home runs reliably…then hell ya…gimme some pics. But Ballerz “potential” to me is worth a “great deal.” Just sign him as Justly as possible and call it a day…jump in your pool, dry off…and do it again. Ez
Even I would take the 5 draft picks!Thing is 2 First round draft picks. Shit you could give me 5 and I still wouldn't take it.
Thank God you're not the Bucs GM. Lol.
If Licht were offered 5 first round draft picks for Baker and he passed, the entire city of Tampa (at least the smart ones) would riot and burn OBP down to the ground.
..but you’re right, tag is too costly, (I do find it interesting that you think Baker’s worth more than the two…).
If the Bucs use it, Aafeties are much more affordable (sorry AWJ).
Cooler heads will prevail, they just can’t resist the drama.
I don’t think anyone on the Bucs is off limits for 5 first round draft picks
sure we wouldn’t want to lose some such as wirfs, Winfield, Evans, Vea, etc but 5 first round draft picks can really help build the team for years to come
i like baker but shit, one first round draft pick for him and I’m saying goodbye to him
(I do find it interesting that you think Baker’s worth more than the two…).
Umm…I don’t.
I don’t think anyone on the Bucs is off limits for 5 first round draft picks
There’s no player in the league not named Mahomes who’s off limits for 5 first rounders.
Not Even Mahomes. Its all depends on the Skill level of the one making the PICK. JL. JL could probably do it, if anyone could it would be him, hes been warming up over the past few years. Even JTS and Hall are "coming-along" slowly. But none of US could do it. We have day jobs, no time to Deep Dive into the details like character details, what people do and how they behave when no ones lookin....none of us have that time. If we were the ones making the picks...we'd all fk'it up. We'd end up drafting Ryan Leaf Over Manning with our First Pick...he was a Buc Afterall. Jamarcus Russell over Manning with the 2nd pick and Jameis Winston in the 6th round....A STEAL (crablegs and all 🍸 )at the 199th pick. Id likely mess it up that badly. 🤔
Not Even Mahomes.
That’s what I said. He’s the only one.
Anyone else in the league is worth trading for FIVE first round picks.
And, you’re wrong on the “none of US could do it” comment.
Over the last 10-15 years on these boards, there’s been NUMEROUS posters who’ve had mocks, draft takes, etc. that would’ve built insanely good rosters.
Man, I remember the epic conversations of the 2014 draft like it was yesterday.
I wanted Donald so bad.
- The market for him would be minimal at best
- No team in the history of the NFL would risk TWO first round picks for Baker (Lol...I mean, come on)
- It would completely screw us from a cap perspective this year
Genuinely asking because I dont really follow the contract stuff.
On the third thing ("completely screw us from a cap perspective this year") you mean because the hit would be $35 or whatever the value is for a QB whereas if they sign him to any typical contract (2 3 or 4 years) the overall value of the contract might be much higher than $35 over time, but maybe the cap hit this year is only in the $20s (hypothetically) because of how it was structured?
FWIW, I think Ive sen two articles suggesting the franchise tag. One was because it was a vehicle to make him prove it with another year of play. The other was to keep him from getting to FA, I think the thought being that the Falcons might take him. Not sure either one is legit.
On the third thing ("completely screw us from a cap perspective this year") you mean because the hit would be $35 or whatever the value is for a QB whereas if they sign him to any typical contract (2 3 or 4 years) the overall value of the contract might be much higher than $35 over time, but maybe the cap hit this year is only in the $20s (hypothetically) because of how it was structured?
Exactly.
,ot Even Mahomes. Its all depends on the Skill level of the one making the PICK.
Not really a CFB fan, so wasnt really following Mahomes in college. I know the Chiefs made a big move to go up to 10 (maybe 12) and get him and that there was already a QB off the board (Trubisky).
IN HINDSIGHT, that move was OBVIOUSLY a no-brainer BUT was that the case AT THE TIME when he was just a college QB coming into the draft? Seems that it was NOT because so many teams passed on him?
So you think, as do I, that if the the organization were to use the tag on Baker, they’re placing an even higher value on him than others would be willing to pay, so as to scare competing teams off - in order to keep him?(I do find it interesting that you think Baker’s worth more than the two…).
Umm…I don’t.
I agree then that value is set at $36m, but the player has to be given something to allow him to sign for less than the leagues determined value for the position. That means higher guarantee, extra years, at a higher annual salary than year one. How they structure the deal for year one - allows them to use the 2nd & 3rd (maybe 4th/voidable) years to be set against the rising cap space of future seasons, and the greatest amount of space to get Mike & AWJ, maybe LVD, and a FA LB to replace D White (although I’m watching for SirVocea), signed.
and a FA LB to replace D White
Lol. We could replace him with an UDFA.
We already have replaced him with Britt.
So you think, as do I, that if the the organization were to use the tag on Baker, they’re placing an even higher value on him than others would be willing to pay, so as to scare competing teams off - in order to keep him?
No.
I don't see the point of risking a tag because no sane GM from another team would give up (or put themselves in a position) TWO first round picks for Baker Mayfield. Hell, there isn't a sane GM that would give up a single first round pick for him.
If they want to "scare off" competing teams, then sign him. The Bucs have the leverage.
If another team is stupid enough to offer him a 4+ year deal with an APY of $40M+, then let him walk. He ain't that guy.
Not Even Mahomes.
That’s what I said. He’s the only one.
Anyone else in the league is worth trading for FIVE first round picks.
And, you’re wrong on the “none of US could do it” comment.
Over the last 10-15 years on these boards, there’s been NUMEROUS posters who’ve had mocks, draft takes, etc. that would’ve built insanely good rosters.
Man, I remember the epic conversations of the 2014 draft like it was yesterday.
I wanted Donald so bad.
Perhaps, in that sense...maybe I'm overly pessimistic. TY DH. I just know I couldn't do it and would likely cause more harm. I leave that to proper trained folk that get paid is all. But some fans are just naturally gifted...Im not. Im just a people person.
Not Even Mahomes.
That’s what I said. He’s the only one.
Anyone else in the league is worth trading for FIVE first round picks.
And, you’re wrong on the “none of US could do it” comment.
Over the last 10-15 years on these boards, there’s been NUMEROUS posters who’ve had mocks, draft takes, etc. that would’ve built insanely good rosters.
Man, I remember the epic conversations of the 2014 draft like it was yesterday.
I wanted Donald so bad.
Listen Donald was also Underrated. If we had could do a redo. Donald may have gone first overall. Sapp fell due to character concerns. Heres my "secret weapon." Yeah we blundered DONALD. But we got a guy....a guy that flashed HARD at times. CK....uhm, listen... in 5 years, HES GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE I "predict."