Interesting that you picked Cleveland, and I agree. It kinda invites/highlights the comparison between Mayfield and Purdy.Brock Purdy is playing in a different era than Shaun King... And King was part of an anemic offense.
Purdy is clearly better but King never sniffed a big contract like Purdy just got.
Put Purdy on the Browns and he does nothing
How's he going to regress? It would be because he tried to do too much because of problems elsewhere, trying to come back from deficits piled up because of the defense. We already know what Baker will do to make up for a deficit. He'll try to be Superman and it'll probably backfire. He isn't Patrick Mahomes. So how about if the rest of the team does it's job? If that happens then Baker will win games for you and that's why you pay him.well, we shouldn't touch Baker's contract this off-season
let's see how the 2025 season goes.
he has another 40 TD season and Bucs playoff birth and yeah he's looking at $45-$55M per year.
I mean, look at guys that are $55m - Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence. Tua, Herbert and Golf are at $53M. Purdy at $53M. Inflation is real dog
But yeah, Bucs should be in no rush because what if Baker regresses somehow to Cleveland Baker and Bucs go like 7-10....ehhh...maybe we pump the breakers on that extension.
The only thing that would give me pause to resign Baker is his willingness to put his body on the line. I'd put a clause in the contract to deduct $1 million every time he crosses the line of scrimmage and takes on a linebacker. Cool highlight. Shoulder injury- not cool.
We know what Baker is. We know what the market is, especially in light of the Purdy contract. We know the Bucs love Baker. I'm pretty confident that my prediction won't be too far off..
im a big Baker fan....some have even called me a Baker Bro back in the 2023 season!
that being said, the guy had some good WRs in Cleveland and tripped over his own dick several times before
He appears to have turned the corner and is coming off a great year. One knock on last year would be his high INT count and his turnover in our playoff game proved to be critical.
Baker goes out there and throws another 35+ TDs this year and i am right with you...but what if he has a 22 TD-15INT type season....we really want to prematurely extend this guy in 2024 was a fluke?
again - i highly think we will see another great Baker performance, but i don't say that with confidence until i see it
Brock Purdy is playing in a different era than Shaun King... And King was part of an anemic offense.
Purdy is clearly better but King never sniffed a big contract like Purdy just got.
Yes big differences between the players
Did Purdy really get a "big contract" for his role?
Dont get me wrong I get $53 million APY is a lot and I get the the "never to be seen" gross number is even bigger, but its not like he pulled one over on the 49ers, right? They basically paid him going wages for a top team QB and there really was not any other realistic option, right?
There's no way the just let him go. The HC loves the guy, there would be a fan revolt and every player there would see the 49ers as money first winning second.
There also was not a realistic outside option, in free agency? No Kirk Cousin to pay Guaranteed money to only to have him suck lol
I guess they could've pulled off some trade in the draft to go up, but probably very unlikely and definitely a"rebuild" play (rebuild being a dirty word)
So they just settled into paying him sort of the going rate
And if you consider what they were paying him before the whole life of his contracts (plural) sort of levels out to not paying a crazy amount for a QB. His current deal is like the buying the residual on a lease car lol
I ask that question because Mayfield will be up for something like a $60 million APY and just a short while ago many were melting down about $40 million. Its more a sign of the $ available in the league then anything.
I ask that question because Mayfield will be up for something like a $60 million APY and just a short while ago many were melting down about $40 million. Its more a sign of the $ available in the league then anything.
if Baker throws another 40 TDs, then yeah, he's in the $55M range
the only hope we would have is if hes willing to take a home town discount, i.e. Evans, Godwin, Brady, etc. in hopes of competing for a championship. I think at the very least, the guy is getting $45M per in his extension
if Baker throws another 40 TDs, then yeah, he's in the $55M rang
Even if he doesnt, right? Thats the point I was trying to make.
Even with an off year they still pay him something in that range because that is probably roughly the going rate and they aren't going to move on because he throws 30 in one year.
My point as well. If the Bucs aren’t sure they want to keep Baker they can roll the dice, wait and see, play hardball and let Baker test the market in 2027. They could do all that. Do you think they want that? No. Baker is their guy. They’ll pay him the going rate and be done with it. They don’t want a Dak fiasco.if Baker throws another 40 TDs, then yeah, he's in the $55M rang
Even if he doesnt, right? Thats the point I was trying to make.
Even with an off year they still pay him something in that range because that is probably roughly the going rate and they aren't going to move on because he throws 30 in one year.
My point as well. If the Bucs aren’t sure they want to keep Baker they can roll the dice, wait and see, play hardball and let Baker test the market in 2027. They could do all that. Do you think they want that? No. Baker is their guy. They’ll pay him the going rate and be done with it. They don’t want a Dak fiasco.if Baker throws another 40 TDs, then yeah, he's in the $55M rang
Even if he doesnt, right? Thats the point I was trying to make.
Even with an off year they still pay him something in that range because that is probably roughly the going rate and they aren't going to move on because he throws 30 in one year.
so in my example of 2025 campaign of 22 TDs and 15 INTs, you really think they will extend him with one year to go? Why wouldn't they let it play out the extra year? Isn't that more prudent then giving him a 5 year, $265M deal!
Baker knows hes in a good situation and will want to stay in Tampa so im not entirely concerned with him jumping ship.
maybe it's just the finance bro in me... but would be my preference
but yeah 35+TDs next year and as along as INTs aren't in the 30s like Jameis...let's extend in the off-season
Brock Purdy is playing in a different era than Shaun King... And King was part of an anemic offense.
Purdy is clearly better but King never sniffed a big contract like Purdy just got.
Yes big differences between the players
Did Purdy really get a "big contract" for his role?
Dont get me wrong I get $53 million APY is a lot and I get the the "never to be seen" gross number is even bigger, but its not like he pulled one over on the 49ers, right? They basically paid him going wages for a top team QB and there really was not any other realistic option, right?
There's no way the just let him go. The HC loves the guy, there would be a fan revolt and every player there would see the 49ers as money first winning second.
There also was not a realistic outside option, in free agency? No Kirk Cousin to pay Guaranteed money to only to have him suck lol
I guess they could've pulled off some trade in the draft to go up, but probably very unlikely and definitely a"rebuild" play (rebuild being a dirty word)
So they just settled into paying him sort of the going rate
And if you consider what they were paying him before the whole life of his contracts (plural) sort of levels out to not paying a crazy amount for a QB. His current deal is like the buying the residual on a lease car lol
SF was stuck between a rock and a hard place and overpaid for an average QB.
Purdy is good enough to win it all, don't get me wrong... But that's because of his weapons.
I'd easily put Baker over Purdy right now, assuming we don't see Baker regress.
My point as well. If the Bucs aren’t sure they want to keep Baker they can roll the dice, wait and see, play hardball and let Baker test the market in 2027. They could do all that. Do you think they want that? No. Baker is their guy. They’ll pay him the going rate and be done with it. They don’t want a Dak fiasco.if Baker throws another 40 TDs, then yeah, he's in the $55M rang
Even if he doesnt, right? Thats the point I was trying to make.
Even with an off year they still pay him something in that range because that is probably roughly the going rate and they aren't going to move on because he throws 30 in one year.
so in my example of 2025 campaign of 22 TDs and 15 INTs, you really think they will extend him with one year to go? Why wouldn't they let it play out the extra year? Isn't that more prudent then giving him a 5 year, $265M deal!
Baker knows hes in a good situation and will want to stay in Tampa so im not entirely concerned with him jumping ship.
maybe it's just the finance bro in me... but would be my preference
but yeah 35+TDs next year and as along as INTs aren't in the 30s like Jameis...let's extend in the off-season
Ahh Winston "I'm balling" and wanted a huge deal. Then goes to the Saints. Now he's a backup QB on the Giants.
Lmfao... Such a shit QB but so entertaining to watch.
think they will extend him with one year to go?
I am not sure about that. I only meant that most of these contract just slot the QB in a relative tight range so if the team wants to keep the QB and the QB wants to stay everyone pretty much knows the deal. Purdy was pretty much paid what QBs get paid.
"Purdy is guaranteed to earn, as a practical matter, $115.346 million through 2027. The 49ers can avoid his $55.05 million compensation in 2028 by cutting him on or before April 1, 2027.
The new-money average is $53 million per year. The six-year deal, from signing, has an annual value of $45.057 million"
Most likely Baker get a similar deal, adjusting forward in time
It would behoove the Bucs to extend as soon as possible, if Baker is amenable to it. The price only grows each year.think they will extend him with one year to go?
I am not sure about that. I only meant that most of these contract just slot the QB in a relative tight range so if the team wants to keep the QB and the QB wants to stay everyone pretty much knows the deal. Purdy was pretty much paid what QBs get paid.
"Purdy is guaranteed to earn, as a practical matter, $115.346 million through 2027. The 49ers can avoid his $55.05 million compensation in 2028 by cutting him on or before April 1, 2027.
The new-money average is $53 million per year. The six-year deal, from signing, has an annual value of $45.057 million"
Most likely Baker get a similar deal, adjusting forward in time
When they do it depends on both parties, but Baker Mayfield is seriously underpaid compared to Purdy.
Waiting can get expensive, but the Bucs have been shown to be proactive with contracts for desired talent, and the 2 year deal they signed with extension opportunities may have been designed with the intent to renegotiate at some point…just don’t want to see fans freak out when Baker’s renegotiation takes him from $30 mil to $55 mil to $60mil.
I’m sure the organization is pursuing a plan, but Purdy’s contract just added pressure. This is going to be an interesting season!
