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We need two new Edges, two new ILBs, new TE, new LG and new C. Stop blaming Bowles

Dude just stop. He's incompetent.

It wasn't the personnel that made him blitz at the end of the half vs the Panthers to give up a huge TD.

He just sucks 

 

If you want to fire Bowles, fine. But Licht can’t get a 5th coach. He’s out too. 

 

There's zero chance Licht gets fired. He has too many hits in the draft despite some recent head scratchers.

I personally don't think we should fire him and I KNOW he won't get fired... But I also wouldn't lose sleep over him being let go.

Largely because he made the fatal error of choosing an old relic of a defensive coach over the young offensive mind that carried the team last year.

Yes, CARRIED THE TEAM.

Bowles hasn't given us a good defense since he blew the Rams comeback with that asinine all out blitz.

Licht saw the body of work and decided to get cute...

Then he extends Bowles.

That to me is a fireable offense. I'm not advocating for Licht to get fired because he's been above average... And I don't think he gets fired. But I wouldn't have an issue with it.

 


 
Posted : Dec. 26, 2025 1:30 am
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If the Glazers or Licht don't move on from Bowles and his staff after the season, they are boneheads.


 
Posted : Dec. 26, 2025 11:45 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

We need two new Edges, two new ILBs, new TE, new LG and new C. Stop blaming Bowles

Dude just stop. He's incompetent.

It wasn't the personnel that made him blitz at the end of the half vs the Panthers to give up a huge TD.

He just sucks 

 

If you want to fire Bowles, fine. But Licht can’t get a 5th coach. He’s out too. 

 

There's zero chance Licht gets fired. He has too many hits in the draft despite some recent head scratchers.

I personally don't think we should fire him and I KNOW he won't get fired... But I also wouldn't lose sleep over him being let go.

Largely because he made the fatal error of choosing an old relic of a defensive coach over the young offensive mind that carried the team last year.

Yes, CARRIED THE TEAM.

Bowles hasn't given us a good defense since he blew the Rams comeback with that asinine all out blitz.

Licht saw the body of work and decided to get cute...

Then he extends Bowles.

That to me is a fireable offense. I'm not advocating for Licht to get fired because he's been above average... And I don't think he gets fired. But I wouldn't have an issue with it.

 

What about Licht’s body of work? What about the state of the front 7?

 


 
Posted : Dec. 26, 2025 12:35 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

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Posted by: @jc5100

We need two new Edges, two new ILBs, new TE, new LG and new C. Stop blaming Bowles

Dude just stop. He's incompetent.

It wasn't the personnel that made him blitz at the end of the half vs the Panthers to give up a huge TD.

He just sucks 

 

If you want to fire Bowles, fine. But Licht can’t get a 5th coach. He’s out too. 

 

There's zero chance Licht gets fired. He has too many hits in the draft despite some recent head scratchers.

I personally don't think we should fire him and I KNOW he won't get fired... But I also wouldn't lose sleep over him being let go.

Largely because he made the fatal error of choosing an old relic of a defensive coach over the young offensive mind that carried the team last year.

Yes, CARRIED THE TEAM.

Bowles hasn't given us a good defense since he blew the Rams comeback with that asinine all out blitz.

Licht saw the body of work and decided to get cute...

Then he extends Bowles.

That to me is a fireable offense. I'm not advocating for Licht to get fired because he's been above average... And I don't think he gets fired. But I wouldn't have an issue with it.

 

What about Licht’s body of work? What about the state of the front 7?

 

Our front 7 is awful. Going with David and Dennis was always asinine. He made no effort at the deadline too.

He seems content on getting out of dead cap space and retooling.

He body of work for drafting the front 7 is obviously bad (as I've stated many times)

 


 
Posted : Dec. 26, 2025 12:47 pm
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I agree who are we gonna get if Bowles is fired. Let's say the hot name is Kubiak denies us what happens then?(I'm not a huge fan of Kubiak just from his time with the Saints wasn't exactly profound offensive scheming and I hate watched a lot lol just also watching rattler)

I think Bowles stays, but we need to get an influx of talent and communicators on defense.


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Posted : Dec. 26, 2025 2:51 pm
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I agree who are we gonna get if Bowles is fired. Let's say the hot name is Kubiak denies us what happens then?(I'm not a huge fan of Kubiak just from his time with the Saints wasn't exactly profound offensive scheming and I hate watched a lot lol just also watching rattler)

I think Bowles stays, but we need to get an influx of talent and communicators on defense.

bucs just saw coen save Lawrence’s career

bucs needed an excuse to get rid of Bowles and get an offensive guy to save bakers career; finishing with 7,8,or 9 wins and at best first round playoff exit is that excuse 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 26, 2025 3:06 pm
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I agree who are we gonna get if Bowles is fired. Let's say the hot name is Kubiak denies us what happens then?(I'm not a huge fan of Kubiak just from his time with the Saints wasn't exactly profound offensive scheming and I hate watched a lot lol just also watching rattler)

I think Bowles stays, but we need to get an influx of talent and communicators on defense.

bucs just saw coen save Lawrence’s career

bucs needed an excuse to get rid of Bowles and get an offensive guy to save bakers career; finishing with 7,8,or 9 wins and at best first round playoff exit is that excuse 

 

That is what the Bucs did to move onto Koetter than Arians.  I can see this happening again but the Glazers may not feel that window has opened yet for a SB push.

 

 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 26, 2025 3:12 pm
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He seems content on getting out of dead cap space and retooling.

This is the conclusion one should reach watching 2022 to 2025. 


 
Posted : Dec. 26, 2025 3:53 pm
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As a reminder: this could easily be a 4 or 5 win team if it wasn't for Baker scrambling around and saving the offense consistently early in the season.

Grizz stats are even worse than on paper when you realize how much backdoor football Baker was improvising early.

Once he hurt his shoulder and couldn't scramble Grizz got exposed.

Which exposed the defense and specials teams.

Which exposed Bowles. Which exposed Licht's shortcoming in the draft and being too forward thinking with a potentially dangerous team had he got aggressive at the trade deadline.


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2025 1:14 am
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I agree who are we gonna get if Bowles is fired. Let's say the hot name is Kubiak denies us what happens then?(I'm not a huge fan of Kubiak just from his time with the Saints wasn't exactly profound offensive scheming and I hate watched a lot lol just also watching rattler)

I think Bowles stays, but we need to get an influx of talent and communicators on defense.

bucs just saw coen save Lawrence’s career

bucs needed an excuse to get rid of Bowles and get an offensive guy to save bakers career; finishing with 7,8,or 9 wins and at best first round playoff exit is that excuse 

 

That is what the Bucs did to move onto Koetter than Arians.  I can see this happening again but the Glazers may not feel that window has opened yet for a SB push.

 

 

 

And Arians didn’t save Winston’s career. They went 7-9 and were going to sign Bridgewater to be the 2020 starter if they didn’t get Brady. 

Bucs don’t have anything invested in Mayfield to make the head coach decision about him. 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2025 7:01 am
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Bucs don’t have anything invested in Mayfield to make the head coach decision about him

Not yet. 


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2025 8:06 am
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Bucs don’t have anything invested in Mayfield to make the head coach decision about him

Not yet. 

what saleh has done with the 49ers injuries on defense is miraculous. If you want a jets failed defensive minded coach there’s your guy JC5100

but it’s a QB driven league and we potentially got one, we seen what he can do with an elite play caller. Let’s see if we can salvage it with kubiak 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2025 8:14 am
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