Anthony Barr 6'4 244. Listed as 2nd best prospect by Scouts INC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMC8xJa2Cj0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESvEftlYmco Vic Beasley 6'3 225. Listed as 60th best prospect by Scouts INC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjJEa_m6pHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek67gAd0LTQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjJEa_m6pHY I actually haven't watched these videos. They were just easy to find on Youtube. Thoughts between the two?
No way to another Clemson DE. Plus dude is only 225 lbs. Pass......
Address defense in free agency offense in draft please
No way to another Clemson DE. Plus dude is only 225 lbs. Pass......
He's a LB, not a DE
John Clayton on WDAE said today that Pass rushing DE is our number 1 target this off-season, I think if we go after Jared Allen which Clayton says is a good possibility than we should go offense first and roll with Watkins, it is going to very interesting to see if Lovie goes offense or defense heavy in the draft.
No way to another Clemson DE. Plus dude is only 225 lbs. Pass......
He's a LB, not a DE
Check the roster listing and his stats. He's a DE bro
No way to another Clemson DE. Plus dude is only 225 lbs. Pass......
He's a LB, not a DE
Check the roster listing and his stats. He's a DE bro
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/34724 Check the footage of him playing. He's an OLB bro
Speaking of Clemson DE, Barr reminds me a lot of Gaines Adams. But hey Lovie did trade for him.
He can be whatever he wants at Clemson but at 225-230 he's not playing DE in the NFL. He'd have to play OLB in a 34 and he's light for that gig even or an OLB in a 43 and you hope to do the Von Miller thing which is now the excuse for all kinds of 43 teams to take pass rushers at linebacker instead of coverage/tackling guys.
My issue with Barr is that he needs to add a lot of strength to be able to anchor and set the edge. He can play every angle perfectly and has a high ceiling, but the issue would be how much muscle can he add to that frame, and can he keep his burst? That said, he's FAST. We've used him a lot to cover RB's, TE's, and even some slot receivers and he's held his ground well enough.
My issue with Barr is that he needs to add a lot of strength to be able to anchor and set the edge. He can play every angle perfectly and has a high ceiling, but the issue would be how much muscle can he add to that frame, and can he keep his burst? That said, he's FAST. We've used him a lot to cover RB's, TE's, and even some slot receivers and he's held his ground well enough.
Beyond that for us as long as AC can't play the LDE, Barr would have to play on the strong side and that is a much bigger concern. Really the mistake in drafting AC is that he takes up the spot where you can put an actual speed rusher. The guys who can hold up on the other side aren't likely to be great pass rushers.
My issue with Barr is that he needs to add a lot of strength to be able to anchor and set the edge. He can play every angle perfectly and has a high ceiling, but the issue would be how much muscle can he add to that frame, and can he keep his burst? That said, he's FAST. We've used him a lot to cover RB's, TE's, and even some slot receivers and he's held his ground well enough.
Beyond that for us as long as AC can't play the LDE, Barr would have to play on the strong side and that is a much bigger concern. Really the mistake in drafting AC is that he takes up the spot where you can put an actual speed rusher. The guys who can hold up on the other side aren't likely to be great pass rushers.
He's listed at 280, but I do think part of it is the emphasis of the previous regime on stopping the run. I'd love to see Barr here at 265, however. If Barr can add some pounds and keep his 4.4X speed, watch out.
My issue with Barr is that he needs to add a lot of strength to be able to anchor and set the edge. He can play every angle perfectly and has a high ceiling, but the issue would be how much muscle can he add to that frame, and can he keep his burst? That said, he's FAST. We've used him a lot to cover RB's, TE's, and even some slot receivers and he's held his ground well enough.
Beyond that for us as long as AC can't play the LDE, Barr would have to play on the strong side and that is a much bigger concern. Really the mistake in drafting AC is that he takes up the spot where you can put an actual speed rusher. The guys who can hold up on the other side aren't likely to be great pass rushers.
He's listed at 280, but I do think part of it is the emphasis of the previous regime on stopping the run. I'd love to see Barr here at 265, however. If Barr can add some pounds and keep his 4.4X speed, watch out.
The issue for AC isn't weight it is the palsy that means he can't play both sides of the line. He is what he is, and 280 is what he played in college so he's not all pumped up.
Yup. Of course, there is no commitment to Clayborn now with Dominick gone. Would be a good 3rd DE if we go the rout of replacing him though
He can be whatever he wants at Clemson but at 225-230 he's not playing DE in the NFL. He'd have to play OLB in a 34 and he's light for that gig even or an OLB in a 43 and you hope to do the Von Miller thing which is now the excuse for all kinds of 43 teams to take pass rushers at linebacker instead of coverage/tackling guys.
Yup, thats basically the case for Beasley. I don't think he's Von Miller, but I think with the right system and the right coaching I think he can be a really good pass rusher.
