JTS is a prime candidate for a contract year explosion. Nine times out of ten they're Fool's Gold.
i mean that would be great, but i'd be shocked
guy is mid at best, likely out of the league after a stint with another team
JTS is a prime candidate for a contract year explosion. Nine times out of ten they're Fool's Gold.
i mean that would be great, but i'd be shocked
guy is mid at best, likely out of the league after a stint with another team
and if it did happen they should be thankful for the production and then let him go lol
JTS is a prime candidate for a contract year explosion. Nine times out of ten they're Fool's Gold.
i mean that would be great, but i'd be shocked
guy is mid at best, likely out of the league after a stint with another team
It happens all the time though. Some Bucs examples..
Marcus Jones had 8 sacks his first four years, 13 in his contract year. Bucs signed him to a deal that is equivalent to 7 years, $133M today.
Michael Johnson had 11.5 sacks his first 3 years, 11.5 in his contract year. Bucs still signed him to a deal that is equivalent to 5 years, $84.1M today after he had a flop franchise tag year with the Bengals.
JTS is a prime candidate for a contract year explosion. Nine times out of ten they're Fool's Gold.
i mean that would be great, but i'd be shocked
guy is mid at best, likely out of the league after a stint with another team
It happens all the time though. Some Bucs examples..
Marcus Jones had 8 sacks his first four years, 13 in his contract year. Bucs signed him to a deal that is equivalent to 7 years, $133M today.
Michael Johnson had 11.5 sacks his first 3 years, 11.5 in his contract year. Bucs still signed him to a deal that is equivalent to 5 years, $84.1M today after he had a flop franchise tag year with the Bengals.
it does. but then again, you also have the Devin White situation where he was trending down since Superbowl year and things got worse for him in the contract year
i think JTR is one that hasn't shown much potential and could not see him getting double digit sacks
like BC said, if he does perform, best bet would be to thank him for his service and let him break bank in free agency
would put the bucs in a tough spot for a guy to be dog shit or the first 3 years and then suddenly turn pro-bowler...in a position where they are desperate none the less
I agree in theory. But look at like this. Licht drafted him in the 1st round, so he's committed. If JTS has something like 12 sacks this season then Licht is going to look at like a success and keep him, whether it be the tag or a long term deal. Licht is not going to let his 25 year old, first round pick, 10+ sack pass rusher just walk. And Licht has already taken the bait with Michael Johnson (people will blame Lovie) and Shaq Barrett, so he's definately going to take the bait with his first round pick.
I actually don't think White got worse, he was always that bad. But for the sake of argument he flopped in his contract year. Jameis flopped his contract year also, but I think Licht would have still kept him if Brady was not an option.
I agree in theory. But look at like this. Licht drafted him in the 1st round, so he's committed. If JTS has something like 12 sacks this season then Licht is going to look at like a success and keep him, whether it be the tag or a long term deal. Licht is not going to let his 25 year old, first round pick, 10+ sack pass rusher just walk. And Licht has already taken the bait with Michael Johnson (people will blame Lovie) and Shaq Barrett, so he's definately going to take the bait with his first round pick.
I actually don't think White got worse, he was always that bad. But for the sake of argument he flopped in his contract year. Jameis flopped his contract year also, but I think Licht would have still kept him if Brady was not an option.
oh yeah no doubt, he'd be a franchise tag candidate. i mean 3 years shit, 1 year great. yeah let's tag him to see if it's a fluke or not
let me ask you this. what's more likely
A - JTR hits double digit sacks
B - He is benched by week 7 for Chris Braswell
I agree in theory. But look at like this. Licht drafted him in the 1st round, so he's committed. If JTS has something like 12 sacks this season then Licht is going to look at like a success and keep him, whether it be the tag or a long term deal. Licht is not going to let his 25 year old, first round pick, 10+ sack pass rusher just walk. And Licht has already taken the bait with Michael Johnson (people will blame Lovie) and Shaq Barrett, so he's definately going to take the bait with his first round pick.
I actually don't think White got worse, he was always that bad. But for the sake of argument he flopped in his contract year. Jameis flopped his contract year also, but I think Licht would have still kept him if Brady was not an option.
oh yeah no doubt, he'd be a franchise tag candidate. i mean 3 years shit, 1 year great. yeah let's tag him to see if it's a fluke or not
let me ask you this. what's more likely
A - JTR hits double digit sacks
B - He is benched by week 7 for Chris Braswell
JTS getting 10+ sacks is more likely in my opinion.
JTS aint getting 10+ sacks this year. He's actually regressed since coming into the league pressure rate wise - so he's not even getting CLOSE to sacks. He's so unproductive as an edge rusher Bowles prefers to use him more in coverage. They had to create a position for him as a "JOKER" because he can't produce as a rusher.
They ended up benching him before Devin White so I don't see them having any sort of attachment with this guy. Braswell may be the opening day starter.
JTS aint getting 10+ sacks this year. He's actually regressed since coming into the league pressure rate wise - so he's not even getting CLOSE to sacks. He's so unproductive as an edge rusher Bowles prefers to use him more in coverage. They had to create a position for him as a "JOKER" because he can't produce as a rusher.
They ended up benching him before Devin White so I don't see them having any sort of attachment with this guy. Braswell may be the opening day starter.
Don’t know how many times seen JTR over run his route to a QB or horrendously miss a tackle
I agree that he’s more likely to get benched (like last year) then magically get double digit sacks
you never know. He just doesn’t seem to have the It factor
Jameis flopped his contract year also, but I think Licht would have still kept him if Brady was not an option.
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Ooooo. This made me shudder.
JTS aint getting 10+ sacks this year. He's actually regressed since coming into the league pressure rate wise - so he's not even getting CLOSE to sacks. He's so unproductive as an edge rusher Bowles prefers to use him more in coverage. They had to create a position for him as a "JOKER" because he can't produce as a rusher.
They ended up benching him before Devin White so I don't see them having any sort of attachment with this guy. Braswell may be the opening day starter.
Don’t know how many times seen JTR over run his route to a QB or horrendously miss a tackle
I agree that he’s more likely to get benched (like last year) then magically get double digit sacks
you never know. He just doesn’t seem to have the It factor
It's not "magic". Contract year pass rushers work out harder in the off-season and play with more effort because there is generational wealth on the table. Marcus Jones had 1 sack his first 3 years in the league then 7 in year 4 and then looked like Julius Peppers (literally) in his contract year.
Exactly, he is a terrible finisher and there's nothing to suggest that will change. His lack of bend/flexibility and not having any power rush moves in his arsenal hurts him as a player.JTS aint getting 10+ sacks this year. He's actually regressed since coming into the league pressure rate wise - so he's not even getting CLOSE to sacks. He's so unproductive as an edge rusher Bowles prefers to use him more in coverage. They had to create a position for him as a "JOKER" because he can't produce as a rusher.
They ended up benching him before Devin White so I don't see them having any sort of attachment with this guy. Braswell may be the opening day starter.
Don’t know how many times seen JTR over run his route to a QB or horrendously miss a tackle
I agree that he’s more likely to get benched (like last year) then magically get double digit sacks
you never know. He just doesn’t seem to have the It factor
If he somehow magically defies the odds and plays better, I still don't see Licht giving him a long-term deal after 10 sacks. He would probably use the franchise tag if that were to happen. But this hypothetical is so extreme.
Hypothetical indeed
This hilarious hypothetical is as far fetched as the following:
- mayfield goes down early, Trask is inserted and throws for 30 touchdown passes on the year.
- Mike Evans takes off his jersey and pads and does jumping jacks as he quits on the Bucs in 49ers match up
-Todd Bowles ends a game with no timeouts left
Hypothetical indeed
This hilarious hypothetical is as far fetched as the following:
- mayfield goes down early, Trask is inserted and throws for 30 touchdown passes on the year.
- Mike Evans takes off his jersey and pads and does jumping jacks as he quits on the Bucs in 49ers match up
-Todd Bowles ends a game with no timeouts left
A 25 year old first round pass rusher averaging 0.6 sacks per game in his contract year is a "hilarious hypothetical". Do you guys even watch other teams and follow what goes on around the league?
Do you guys even watch .... what goes on around the league?
Yeah, the league where Licht was fired last season and Scotty Miller was the MVP?
