Arians promoted Bowles. Licht and ownership surely were involved in the decision, but it was Arians who was most responsible. Licht will get some more time, but the leash will be short.
arians tanked this franchise by quitting early and promoting his guys to positions they shouldn’t have obtained
Arians promoted Bowles. Licht and ownership surely were involved in the decision, but it was Arians who was most responsible. Licht will get some more time, but the leash will be short.
arians tanked this franchise by quitting early and promoting his guys to positions they shouldn’t have obtained
yeah losing him hurt but also Brady fall off, Gronk and Marpet retiring, Godwin not at 100%, Logan Hall ending Jensens career prior to showing he was a bust, replacing JPP production with JTR, replacing AB production with Gage/Julio, Succop couldn’t make a kick over 45 yards, etc.
leftwich sucked at play calling and Bowles is a defensive coordinator, nothing more. No doubt coaching played a part but a lot went against us last year
Please !!
Its Bowles defense so he's not going to escape the terrible outcome, but its not too far fetcedh to raise the "coaches coach, players play" argument if this is accurate:
Per Solak, Bowles blitzed a bunch in the first half and man did his defense get shredded.
Stroud went 7 for 9 for 105 yards, 1 TD, and a sack. He didn’t have a completion under 10 yards.
And when Bowles didn’t blitz in the second half, Stroud ate the Bucs’ defense alive.
So it seems that no matter what Bowles tried, Stroud lit his defense up."
Its still HIS defense, but man the lack of execution.
But that ALL goes out because its his defense.
the more I think about it .... he must be fired
we shall never forget: he was the one who called the worse defensive playcall in bucs history!
he must go
One of the critiques is the heavy use of zone. Found this from 2022 but going back to 2019:
" . . people think of the Buccaneers defense as a fast, aggressive defense that blitzes the crap out of opponents while playing man coverage.
It's a logical thought process. Those qualities have been the foundation of Todd Bowles' defenses ever since he earned the first-ever AP Assistant Coach of the Year award back in 2014.
But when it comes to the Buccaneers defense, there's one common misconception that surrounds the unit. And that's the fact the defense runs a lot more zone than it does press man or off-man.
Per Sports Info Solutions, the Buccaneers defense was in zone coverage on 454 pass plays in 2021. Bowles' unit was in man on 165 pass plays. Overall, the Bucs were in zone on 65% of pass plays and they ran man coverage 22% of the time.
Tampa Bay's 22% usage rate is the NFL's sixth-lowest rate in 2021. As a matter of fact, that usage rate is just half of what the NFL-leading Denver Broncos deployed in 2021. Every team in the top-5 -the Broncos, Saints, Cowboys, Ravens, and Patriots- utilized man on at least 34% of pass plays last year.
The Buccaneers defense was zone-heavy in 2020, as well. Bowles' called it on 66% of pass plays, which was seventh-most that year. He called man 24% of the time, which was the ninth-lowest rate in the NFL."
AND THE ARTICLE MAKES IT SEEM LIKE BOWLES GOT BURNED IN 2019 AND CHANGED:
"2019 is different, however. Bowles ran man on 37% of pass plays, which was the seventh-highest rate in the NFL. But as we all know, the Bucs secondary really struggled during the first half of the season.
Based off SIS' numbers, Bowles recognized this after Week 10 and made the switch. He deployed man coverage at the fifth-highest rate in the NFL from Weeks 1-10. That rate dropped all the way to 16th from Weeks 11-17, which coincided with the defense's vast improvement over the back half of the season.
FROM THE SAME ARTICLE:
Just take a look at Carlton Davis III -the team's No. 1 corner- and you'll see all you need to know. Per Pro Football focus, quarterbacks who targeted him in man averaged an 88.9 quarterback rating compared to a 65.7 rating when targeting him in zone in 2021.
PFF is trash tho. Their metrics are awful and have been for awhile.
Davis hasn't played well, period...
But I'll take him in press man all day every day. If he does that against dHop this week I think he wins the matchup
the more I think about it .... he must be fired
we shall never forget: he was the one who called the worse defensive playcall in bucs history!
he must go
yeah that blitz in the rams game with no time left was pretty remarkable
The Texans offense ran over the Bengals today. Literally :-)
I can only imagine the responses BUT . . . does Bowles get credit for the defensive turnaround today?
(runs for cover)
This is the reporting on the tv coverage comment about the defensive meeting:
"The broadcast crew revealed in the fourth quarter, via their pregame conversation with linebacker Devin White, that Todd Bowles didn’t have his players watch the heinous Texans-Bucs film from a week ago with their position coaches last week. That was a departure from the normal activity after a game.
Instead, White said Bowles watched the film together with the whole defense together.
Apparently, Bowles told his players throughout the meeting “this is an open discussion” — and this was the time to “speak up now”and identify what you don’t like about the defense.
White told the CBS team that players spoke up and the defensive unit walked away from the Bowles film sesson/meeting with a focus on simplifying their play today so they could operate faster.
Hey, it worked! The Bucs defense turned Derrick Henry into Peyton Barber and the pass defense was stellar.
Former Falcons QB Matt Ryan, a CBS game analyst, praised Bowels for changing his approach and giving players more of a voice."
Its almost like playing your Man to Man CBs in Man coverage it works out. Doesn't take a genius to realize that.
Yeah let’s see how he does against the 49ers next week lol
good to see the win but until I see a stack of wins, I don’t want to hear it
team should be 6-3
Bump in case the Glazers are reading the board 😎
