Faced the 2nd most pass attempts in the league. Bucs defense was 15th in net yards per attempt, again, AVERAGE.
This is hilarious. If my defense is #1 in net pass yards per attempt, but my defense gives up the most passing yards in the league - my defense isn't a top defense.
You keep getting cuter and cuter making these asinine arguments in an attempt to fluff up the defense. I'm shocked that you haven't been able to persuade one single, solitary person in your crusade against the OC who had a bidding war for his services.
If a defense is #1 in in net pass yards per attempt but is #32 in yards then they faced approximately 200 more pass attempts than the next highest team. Hope you understand how stupid your example is now.
That's the point, dingleberry - your point sucks. You might could say that if you have a pass defense that couldn't stop anybody, the opposing teams might know that and pass on them at-will. Yeah, teams are going to throw the ball 10-12 times per game more than anybody else.
You really aren't good at this.
Bucs defense was average in almost every major metric. Points, yards, turnovers, ypc against, net pass yards against. Anyone saying the defense wasn't average is ignorant or being disingenuous.
Bucs defense was average in almost every major metric. Points, yards, turnovers, ypc against, net pass yards against. Anyone saying the defense wasn't average is ignorant or being disingenuous.
What would you call someone that is trying to pass off the 29th ranked pass defense, 32nd ranked in receptions against, and 30th ranked in receiving yards against as "average", Mr. Red Board GM?
Bucs defense was average in almost every major metric. Points, yards, turnovers, ypc against, net pass yards against. Anyone saying the defense wasn't average is ignorant or being disingenuous.
What would you call someone that is trying to pass off the 29th ranked pass defense, 32nd ranked in receptions against, and 30th ranked in receiving yards against as "average", Mr. Red Board GM?
Those numbers were high because the pass attempts were high. There were many reasons for pass attempts being high, but the efficiency of the pass defense is low on it.
Bucs defense was average in almost every major metric. Points, yards, turnovers, ypc against, net pass yards against. Anyone saying the defense wasn't average is ignorant or being disingenuous.
What would you call someone that is trying to pass off the 29th ranked pass defense, 32nd ranked in receptions against, and 30th ranked in receiving yards against as "average", Mr. Red Board GM?
Those numbers were high because the pass attempts were high. There were many reasons for pass attempts being high, but the efficiency of the pass defense is low on it.
The pass attempts (and receptions & yards) were high, you say? Interesting. Go ahead and give all of the reasons those pass attempts (and receptions & yards) were high.
Bucs defense was average in almost every major metric. Points, yards, turnovers, ypc against, net pass yards against. Anyone saying the defense wasn't average is ignorant or being disingenuous.
What would you call someone that is trying to pass off the 29th ranked pass defense, 32nd ranked in receptions against, and 30th ranked in receiving yards against as "average", Mr. Red Board GM?
Those numbers were high because the pass attempts were high. There were many reasons for pass attempts being high, but the efficiency of the pass defense is low on it.
You wanna die on every hill of stupidity it seems
Bucs defense was average in almost every major metric. Points, yards, turnovers, ypc against, net pass yards against. Anyone saying the defense wasn't average is ignorant or being disingenuous.
Bucs offense was excellent in almost every major metric. Points, yards, etc. Anyone saying the offense wasn’t outstanding is ignorant, disingenuous, or cosplaying as an NFL executive on a football message board.
Those numbers were high because the pass attempts were high. There were many reasons for pass attempts being high, but the efficiency of the pass defense is low on it.
the Bucs defense gave up more passing first downs than every team but two.
The Bucs defense was in the bottom 7 for opponents QB rating
Bottom 3rd completion percentage
Teams EXPLOITED our pass defense
Bucs defense was average in almost every major metric. Points, yards, turnovers, ypc against, net pass yards against. Anyone saying the defense wasn't average is ignorant or being disingenuous.
What would you call someone that is trying to pass off the 29th ranked pass defense, 32nd ranked in receptions against, and 30th ranked in receiving yards against as "average", Mr. Red Board GM?
Those numbers were high because the pass attempts were high. There were many reasons for pass attempts being high, but the efficiency of the pass defense is low on it.
The pass attempts (and receptions & yards) were high, you say? Interesting. Go ahead and give all of the reasons those pass attempts (and receptions & yards) were high.
1. Bucs margin of regulation win was very high. 17.3 points per non OT win. I was going through some of the top teams and I couldn't find anyone higher. Meaning Bucs had big leads teams were just throwing all 4th qtr. The Bucs number was the same as the Chiefs and Vikings COMBINED.
2. Inability to close games out with the run. For example, Bucs averaged 2.5 yards per play in the 4th qtr vs the Lions, which led to Lions having 20 4th qtr pass plays. Falcons had 14 pass plays after Bucky's fumble. Vs the Eagles we were up 14 or 17 the entire 4th qtr but some reason Coen was still 57% pass with 4 incompletions. Only a 3.7 ypc in the 4th qtr also. Led to the Eagles having 16 pass plays in the 4th qtr. Rachaad White cannot get anymore carries in these situations.
3. Bucs pass defense was just average while the run defense was above average. Teams would be more inclined to run the ball.
Those numbers were high because the pass attempts were high. There were many reasons for pass attempts being high
If you just look at the Falcons you can see the game planning (especially seeing Britt on film and Dennis going down).
In the games leading up to the Bucs game, the Falcons are running the ball with their lead back around 15 times per game and Cousins is attempting about 29 passes per game and this includes 35 passing attempts the week before the Bucs against a struggling Saints secondary.
Against the Bucs, their lead back runs 12 times and Cousins attempts 58 passes.
So the 15 runs to 29 passes offense became 12 runs to 58 pass
Even adjusting out the OT, if you just look at the game it is their GAMEPLAN based on film to THROW against the Bucs. No Dennis and no AWJ to clean things up
Or, look at the difference in the Commanders games. With no film to rely on the Commanders LOSE to the Bucs first game and even being BEHIND much of the game Daniels has the ball in his hands 40 times but only 24 pass attempts.
In the playoff game he has the ball in his hands 48 times, but 35 pass attempts.
Pass attempts were high because that was the way to beat the Bucs defense
Stats are only there to confirm what was obvious to anybody watching the games. The defensive woes were because of injuries, but also because of depending on low draft picks and UDFAs. Measurables matter! We need some good draft picks.Those numbers were high because the pass attempts were high. There were many reasons for pass attempts being high, but the efficiency of the pass defense is low on it.
the Bucs defense gave up more passing first downs than every team but two.
The Bucs defense was in the bottom 7 for opponents QB rating
Bottom 3rd completion percentage
Teams EXPLOITED our pass defense
Also if you remember, the Bucs basically did NOTHING on cutdown day to scour the waiver wire and find useful castoffs from other teams. Instead they decided to roll and be loyal to the guys they had in camp, a strategy which failed. This is on Bowles. At the end of camp, Bowles should have told Licht "Find me some help!" I have to believe Licht would have at least tried to find some upgrades. But Bowles had loyalty to the guys who were in camp. Almost the entire practice squad was guys from camp when usually that practice squad is mixed with several castoffs from other teams. Perhaps Bowles wanted guys who went through the camp, but that's what practice squad is for! To get guys acclimated with your system! Bowles made the call to stick with his guys from camp, not Licht.
Defense Snap Counts - Draft
Christian Izien 697 UDFA
KJ Britt 613 6th Rd
Josh Hayes 265 6th Round
Kaevon Merriweather 259 UDFA
JJ Russell 249 UDFA
Mike Edwards 184 Waiver Claim
Tyreke Funderburk 162 UDFA
CJ Brewer 160 UDFA
1. Bucs margin of regulation win was very high. 17.3 points per non OT win. I was going through some of the top teams and I couldn't find anyone higher. Meaning Bucs had big leads teams were just throwing all 4th qtr. The Bucs number was the same as the Chiefs and Vikings COMBINED.
So the offense was scoring a lot of points? I'll be damned...
They must have had a decent playcaller.
2. Inability to close games out with the run. For example, Bucs averaged 2.5 yards per play in the 4th qtr vs the Lions, which led to Lions having 20 4th qtr pass plays. Falcons had 14 pass plays after Bucky's fumble. Vs the Eagles we were up 14 or 17 the entire 4th qtr but some reason Coen was still 57% pass with 4 incompletions. Only a 3.7 ypc in the 4th qtr also. Led to the Eagles having 16 pass plays in the 4th qtr. Rachaad White cannot get anymore carries in these situations.
This is not a reason why teams passed a lot and passed a lot successfully on the Buccaneers defense, but it is yet another example of poor analysis on your part.
3. Bucs pass defense was just average while the run defense was above average. Teams would be more inclined to run the ball.
Outside of then run defense being above average, more bad analysis from you. The pass defense was one of the worst in the league and the run defense was one the best in the league, which is why the team ended up with an average overall defense. Teams were not more inclined to run the ball - it's the exact opposite.
Teams were more inclined to throw the ball because the pass defense sucked and the opposing team was playing from behind fairly often because of the high-scoring offense lead by DUUUUUVAAAAAALLLLLLLLL - both of which your dumbass continues to argue against. Those are the reasons the pass attempts are so high.
You've been thoroughly whipped on this point by damn-near everyone. I'll go back to pointing and laughing.
Just an outside example.
THREE THINGS from the Giants pre-game "how to beat the Bucs" article. A good example of the way other teams would see the defense of the Bucs, late into 2024:
1. "The Bucs defense also has a fatal flaw: they allow the fourth-most yards after the catch in the NFL and worth noting is that they have played one less game than the three teams ahead of them."
2. "Both linebackers are a major reason that the Bucs defense has given up big gains in space consistently as they’re just not built to operate in space frequently at this point.
David and Britt have a combined 26 missed tackles on the season with missed tackle rates of 18.5% and 15.3% respectively.
3. "With DeVito at the helm, the Giants will need to put him in the best position possible to succeed to start his tenure as starter off strong.
This week that means to take what’s there underneath and do it quickly. The Bucs allow the most passing yards per game on passes where the ball is thrown in under 2½ seconds.
so even if you disagree with the analysis PASSING is the way an outsider would attack the Bucs defense. Throw the ball and throw it quickly
If you look at the NEXT GEN STATS (aka "some guys stats") referenced in #1 - the Bucs passing defense was bottom tier in YAC and separation allowed, as one of several examples.
Stats are only there to confirm what was obvious to anybody watching the games.
yes exactly.
Anyone who watched the 2024 Bucs would see an historically GOOD offense and a terrible PASS defense, certainly impacted by injuries.
That does NOT mean the offense didn't play its part in some losses and the defense did play above itself some times.
The guys arguing that everyone should ignore their own eyes also sees Tucker as Emmitt Smith.
Defense Snap Counts - Draft
Christian Izien 697 UDFA
KJ Britt 613 6th Rd
Josh Hayes 265 6th Round
Kaevon Merriweather 259 UDFA
JJ Russell 249 UDFA
Mike Edwards 184 Waiver Claim
Tyreke Funderburk 162 UDFA
CJ Brewer 160 UDFA
when you add to this AWJ injured, David inured etc, its obvious why the PASS defense in particular really struggled
In the Ravens loss there are 5 TD passes
In the Chiefs OT loss, the last drive play selection is fairly balanced but chunk plays on that OT drive are pass to Kelce and a pass to their RB
When the Commanders really needed that last drive to continue the key play is a pass.
In that same game as soon as Dean went down, TD to McLauren covered by. . . Hayes.
The Falcons obviously went pass and even the lowly Giants with a back of QB wanted to PASS to beta the Bucs
