Bowles is the HBC, but hes often treated as just the DC and in that light this was a discussion in another thread
good game vs the Rams (I'll define that as under 350 yards and 24 points)
We should all hope for that, both under their averages of 28pts and 360ish, roughly
THINK ABOUT THIS RAMS GAME FROM BOWLES PERSPECTIVE:
Defense is shaky and, notably, offenses have picked on the zone blitz you've been using to generate pressure. Dean is likely out and there is a LOT of film on Morrison. The team probably sees the rams game as a likely loss, but Bowles wants to change that or, at least, boost the (probably flagging) confidence of his defense.
So, regardless of outcome of the game itself, what is a good performance by Bowles defense . . on the rolled against the 8-2 Rams and Sean McVay. So here the question so you can put down a marker BEFORE the game:
Does the Bucs defense get blown out (result is GREATER than Rams offensive average above) or do they pull it together (result is equal too or lesser than the Rams' offense average)?
Blow Out or Pulled it Together? Throw in the two stat predictions (yards and score) if you want
Success is a WIN
Tie i guess can be considered acceptable
Loss is failure
Failure is expected this week but boy would be nice to beat a good team again.
Success is a WIN
Tie i guess can be considered acceptable
Loss is failure
Failure is expected this week but boy would be nice to beat a good team again.
yes I agree but what about Bowles defense? Do you mean any performance is fine as long as its a win? So, Rames 40 points and 400 yards, but credit to him if its a win?
Myh guess is that many will not post a prediction or will go with the OVER (my choice) but then not credit Bowles if its an UNDER, especially if its a loss. He's the HC then.
i think the defense will rebound - maybe give up 24 points but i feel us tripping over our dicks on offense and maybe putting up 16...similar to the Detroit prime time game
the defense has had it's woes but honestly you need to put up 27-30 points per game to be able to win in this league...
if offense puts up less than that...it's generally on the offense as to why we lost.
Lots of factors working against Bowles and the Bucs for this game. Prime Time game usually results in less than prime time outcome for the Bucs. Travel to the west coast across 3 time zones. An offense that's unable to move the ball consistently which will yield higher TOP for the Rams offense. A defense that just got gashed by Josh Allen and a bunch of no-name WRs and second string TE now has to face Matthew Stafford with Puka Nacua and Davante Adams at WR, the Rams no-name corps of capable TEs, and Kyren Williams at RB. And who knows what will happen on Bucs kickoffs with the special teams unable to stop effective runbacks and give shorter fields for the Rams. And who knows which Bucs are able to come back from injuries for this game. It's a pretty bleak picture for me.
I'll take the over on Stafford at 263.5 yards passing
I'll take the over on Stafford at 2.5 passing TDs
I'll take the over on Nacua at 90.5 yards receiving, and anytime TD
I'll take the over on Adams at 59.5 yards receiving, and anytime TD
I'll take the over on Stafford at 263.5 yards passing
I'll take the over on Stafford at 2.5 passing TDs
I'll take the over on Nacua at 90.5 yards receiving, and anytime TD
I'll take the over on Adams at 59.5 yards receiving, and anytime TD
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If we just focus on the defense, and don’t factor in the performance of the offense, I don’t see how this Bucs defense slows down the Rams. There could be some unforced errors made by the Rams (fumble or a few dropped passes) but aside from those, this Bucs defense will have a tough time getting the Rams offense off the field. McVay and Stafford are salivating at this matchup. It could be ugly.
Lots of factors working against Bowles and the Bucs for this game. Prime Time game usually results in less than prime time outcome for the Bucs. Travel to the west coast across 3 time zones. An offense that's unable to move the ball consistently which will yield higher TOP for the Rams offense. A defense that just got gashed by Josh Allen and a bunch of no-name WRs
I picked to over too because they got gashed as much by the "scheme" as anything. This is Bowles talking about the Cook TD pass
“They had a heck of a play when they came through the line of scrimmage and caught a touchdown pass for us right there,” Bowles said on his official team radio show. “And they kind of outran Nelly. Chalk that up to scheme. They did a good job and ran a good play right there. But other than that I thought we did a decent job just trying to contain [Cook] and hold him down.”
and I think that film and other film is out there so Bowles is between a ROCK and a hard place (ineffective 4 man rush v exposed zone blitz)
There could be some unforced errors made by the Rams (fumble or a few dropped passes) but aside from those, this Bucs defense will have a tough time getting the Rams offense off the field. McVay and Stafford are salivating at this matchup. It could be ugly.
three turnover generated by the defense and they still gave up 40+ so yes it could get ugly
To me that is the interesting part of the next game. Bowles defense is on the ropes with a real heavyweight offense. Does it get knocked out or does it fight back?
I expect to see more of the same from the defense that we've mostly seen the past few weeks....There will be some drives that Bowles calls well, there will likely be chunk plays to be had due to mental errors, or guys being out of position. I'd expect Stafford to be up around 80% completion pct with between 300-350 yards and 2 td's. I could also see Stafford and the Rams turning the ball over a couple of times. As seek mentioned it will largely depend on ST's, and who we have in play on offense to come back from injury...We get Bucky back and there's a lot better chance with the 3 headed RB rotation at our disposal. I'd also like to see White get more designed touches in the passing game. Seek made some really great points, I'm cautiously optimistic about the outcome, but an ugly game is certainly not out of the question given prime time and travel.
There could be some unforced errors made by the Rams (fumble or a few dropped passes) but aside from those, this Bucs defense will have a tough time getting the Rams offense off the field. McVay and Stafford are salivating at this matchup. It could be ugly.
three turnover generated by the defense and they still gave up 40+ so yes it could get ugly
To me that is the interesting part of the next game. Bowles defense is on the ropes with a real heavyweight offense. Does it get knocked out or does it fight back?
Kicking a fg on that first turnover set the tone for the game. Could have had them playing from behind all game and pined our ears back
There could be some unforced errors made by the Rams (fumble or a few dropped passes) but aside from those, this Bucs defense will have a tough time getting the Rams offense off the field. McVay and Stafford are salivating at this matchup. It could be ugly.
Todd runs the 6th highest blitz rate in the league.
Wonder how Stafford is against the blitz this year?
"Against the blitz, Stafford's 20 touchdowns lead the league by 9, and he ranks top 10 in various other key passing statistics (all courtesy of Next Gen Stats unless otherwise stated)."
I'm sure Todd will figure something out. Lol.
There could be some unforced errors made by the Rams (fumble or a few dropped passes) but aside from those, this Bucs defense will have a tough time getting the Rams offense off the field. McVay and Stafford are salivating at this matchup. It could be ugly.
three turnover generated by the defense and they still gave up 40+ so yes it could get ugly
To me that is the interesting part of the next game. Bowles defense is on the ropes with a real heavyweight offense. Does it get knocked out or does it fight back?
Kicking a fg on that first turnover set the tone for the game. Could have had them playing from behind all game and pined our ears back
yes, agree
Great news
“Unfortunately, this Wednesday, a lot of people have taken ill,” coach Todd Bowles said. “There is a bug going around the building. We had about five coaches and about 15 players down, so that helped aid in this walk-through. There’s nothing we can really do about that today.”
Six players, including quarterback Baker Mayfield, were limited with the illness.
Center Graham Barton, wide receiver Emeka Egbuka, offensive guard Dan Feeney, offensive tackle Luke Goedeke and defensive end Logan Hall were sick.
