we don’t know if Wolford isn’t the answer either by your retarded logic. When was Ryan Griffin given a fair shake a boo hoo 😢
Except Wolford started multiple games in the NFL. And what year were those two QB’s second round draft picks?
Your comparisons haven’t been good this evening.
baker is a #1 overall pick so tell me about that draft status angle
Baker Mayfield has started over 80 games in the NFL. We know exactly who he is.
You appear to be having a difficult time following the discussion.
To be fair though your position was that Trask should already be the starter, right? Because even if we get to the playoffs it does not matter so the Bucs should’ve ALREADY gone to Trask, right?
It's been clear for quite a few weeks that Baker is holding the offense back. They should have gone to Trask after the Bills game, which would have been an ideal time to make the switch. They didn't and we've been struggling along ever since. We struggled to score and beat a very bad Panthers team and a so-so Falcons team. Not exactly playoff caliber teams. When we play Dallas or Philly, should we manage to get in and that's still not a given, then we'll likely get curb stomped. Now, I still be rooting for the team regardless, but I think the offense would have become more potent by now simply because players have been getting open a lot and Baker has failed to make the plays.
Baker is holding the offense back. Canales is holding the offense back. Bowles identity is holding the offense back.
It's a combo of these 3. Baker and Canales are both hot and cold.
Sprinkle Bowles conservative nature on top and you've got a pretty bad offense.
Baker is holding the offense back. Canales is holding the offense back. Bowles identity is holding the offense back.
It's a combo of these 3. Baker and Canales are both hot and cold.
Sprinkle Bowles conservative nature on top and you've got a pretty bad offense.
agreed.
We are 6-7 and when we play a good team we show we don’t belong. Nobody debates this. Looking forward to making playoffs and getting smoked. That is our ceiling (but was the same ceiling with every QB we’ve had sans Brady in the last 20 years since our 2002 Super Bowl season.
What I find hilarious are those thinking Trask would be better because he was a 2nd round pick (guys drafted with him mond no longer on team originally drafted him and mills after starting a season, they drafted a guy #1) or he’d better because “we hasn’t played”.
Baker ain’t the guy! Yeah no shit. But as I said in another thread who exactly is the guy in this league?
i would say maybe 10 teams actually think they have the guy. The guy defined as perennial superbowl contender and can win it all.
shit. We knew last year at 6-8 that we weren’t going to win a Super Bowl. Why didn’t we bench Brady for Trask? Obviously extreme ridiculous question but just going to the logic of some fans that “this team sucks so let’s see what a career back up has”
unfortunately this loss did away with the 4 game trial for Trask because now the Bucs will likely be alive in division race up until last week of season.
and finally they are playing baker because as mid as he is, he gives them the best chance to win and they owe it to guys like Evans and David. But of course that won’t get through to any of you Trask humpers
Baker is holding the offense back. Canales is holding the offense back. Bowles identity is holding the offense back.
It's a combo of these 3. Baker and Canales are both hot and cold.
Sprinkle Bowles conservative nature on top and you've got a pretty bad offense.
Baker is Baker, can't change that.
Bowles is living on a glory from that one single SuprBowl game where Chiefs played without OL!!! His pass defense is AWFUL!!!
Canales is awful as well. There are so many options in a game of football, and all he does is calling hopeless inside runs for yard or two. Even the blind meanwhile realized that White is slow and the way he is utilized absolutely useless!
We need a change after this season. Maybe we won't be able to get QB but we definitely should get new coaches
Baker is holding the offense back. Canales is holding the offense back. Bowles identity is holding the offense back.
It's a combo of these 3. Baker and Canales are both hot and cold.
Sprinkle Bowles conservative nature on top and you've got a pretty bad offense.
Baker is Baker, can't change that.
Bowles is living on a glory from that one single SuprBowl game where Chiefs played without OL!!! His pass defense is AWFUL!!!
Canales is awful as well. There are so many options in a game of football, and all he does is calling hopeless inside runs for yard or two. Even the blind meanwhile realized that White is slow and the way he is utilized absolutely useless!
We need a change after this season. Maybe we won't be able to get QB but we definitely should get new coaches
really depends how these next 4 games go. If Bucs make playoffs, i think Bowles has a 95% chance of keeping his job. Could you imagine the backlash in an election year firing a black head coach after back to back division titles. Hell, up that % to 99.4%
i'd be absolutely shocked if he gets fired.
would even say it's a coin flip if the team wins 8 games and misses the playoffs although i think that's a more likely scenario that he could get fired.
double digit losses, which would mean a 1-3 finish would all but guarantee it.
Bowles losing his job looked a lot more likely 2 games ago. All about how this season finishes up.
What does an election year have to do with Bowles job security?
Lol... like, wut?
But I agree if he makes the playoffs he ain't losing his job. He should, but he won't.
What does an election year have to do with Bowles job security?
Lol... like, wut?
But I agree if he makes the playoffs he ain't losing his job. He should, but he won't.
lol
Badabing’s posts are often some version of
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Very entertaining
the other day someone defended their strong reaction to a Badabing post by posting “but he said ‘look it up!’”
haha
always fishing
Baker is holding the offense back. Canales is holding the offense back. Bowles identity is holding the offense back.
It's a combo of these 3. Baker and Canales are both hot and cold.
Sprinkle Bowles conservative nature on top and you've got a pretty bad offense.
I think it's more than just a sprinkle.
Ledyard and Queipo have tweeted about it all year.
Canales just came from a program that had one of the highest 1D run rates in the league, and now he's completely 180'd?
That being said, there were definitely some "WTF" moments in the play calling (i.e. the stretch/toss on 4 and 2 to the short side of the field).
But, like every game, his passing concepts have guys open.
Outside of maybe 3 passes, Baker played like shit.
Desmond Ridder [LOL] threw for 347 yards. This guy had 2,029 yards before yesterday.
Drake London [???] caught 10 for 172 yards. This guy had 573 yards before yesterday.
Bowles is responsible for this defense. Week after week they get torched, at times by marginal players who haven't done much in the NFL before meeting the Bucs defense. Week after week they are incredibly inconsistent. Splash play, then bonehead coverage bust. It's pretty clear Bowles needs to go after the season is over. He should be #1 on the Black Monday list of firings.
His run play calling is definitely a mixed bag and wasn't that great for most of this year. It's gotten better, and was actually quite good in the second half yesterday, but he's insistent on those 2nd and 10 run plays. I keep waiting for the setup to payoff on that, but so far, not much. His passing concepts, overall, are actually pretty damn good. I've never seen Evans and Godwin get open as often as this year on such a consistent basis, and when they are both covered, someone else is open. Just need someone to actually make the throws and do so accurately.
What does an election year have to do with Bowles job security?
Lol... like, wut?
But I agree if he makes the playoffs he ain't losing his job. He should, but he won't.
I'll say it. Perhaps the point he was trying to make is firing a black NFL head coach is not politically correct, and sends shock waves through the NFL community about the dearth of black head coaches, coordinators, position coaches, etc. Bowles' record speaks for itself. He's a good coordinator. He is not a good head coach. Arians and Licht [and whoever else had a say] did the Bucs franchise a disservice by elevating Bowles to the head job in the first place. There are other qualified black coaches who deserved a chance. Look at what DeMeco Ryans has done with a sorry ass Texans team and culture. Eric Bieniemy has been ready for years and may get his shot soon. There are others waiting in the wings. They should get their shot when they're ready.
Right now if we are being objective Canales is doing more on offense than Bowles on defense. Most of the draft choices have heavily leaned toward defense the last few years. Hall, JTS, Kancey, etc. Canales is doing this with the personnel that are not ideal for his scheme given that Mayfield isn't accurate enough for a YAC based offense. White and Otton look like good fits for the offense. The OL improvement is the big story for this team as that may be the difference compared to last season.
Defensively the younger players outside of JTS are progressing nicely. The problem is the vets on defense are playing too much with mistakes and should be leading by example. Bowles should be hyper focused to have this defense play more disciplined ball.
“Winfield and Hall of Fame safety Brian Dawkins are the only two defensive backs since 2000 to have at least three sacks, at least three forced fumbles and at least three fumble recoveries in a single season.”
His run play calling is definitely a mixed bag and wasn't that great for most of this year. It's gotten better, and was actually quite good in the second half yesterday, but he's insistent on those 2nd and 10 run plays. I keep waiting for the setup to payoff on that, but so far, not much. His passing concepts, overall, are actually pretty damn good. I've never seen Evans and Godwin get open as often as this year on such a consistent basis, and when they are both covered, someone else is open. Just need someone to actually make the throws and do so accurately.
Thats why I want trask, Baker is a cool guy but is limited by his height and having his passing lanes blocked to throw across the middle. I just hope we don't stick with Mayfield because I dont know if this offense will ever be "good" with him at the helm. If we do, we need a drew brees offense where the passing lanes were created by deep routes and the high trajectory throws can be made
