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Posted by: @badabingbucs

you can try and debate but this is not a great argument. 

 

what's to argue, its a fact lol . . that the NFCS is the worst!

My point is a simple one:  many people start with a belief and then work backwards NEVER questioning their own assumptions.  And when they get facts to the contrary, they dont often modify their assumption. More often than not they just slide the bar.

"worst division in 2025" was a FACT

alternative information was provided (conference comparisons, Eagles, AI)

slide to   .. . "most people say its worst division"

slide to . . "since 2022"

 

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BASIC HUMAN NATURE says its not a coincidence that posters who have been calling for Bowles head since 2022 would accept as "fact" that the NFCS was the worst division in 2025. It is not a fact though. Its an opinion and a pretty debatable one give the information I provided.

That does NOT mean Bowles is good or his performance "excused"

 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 12:57 pm
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Fire's AI trick again

 

"Based on final 2025 season data, the NFC East was the NFL's weakest division, finishing with the worst combined record (27-40-1), while the NFC North was considered the best by some metrics, despite some early-season struggles in the Bears and Vikings. Pre-season analyses often pointed to the NFC South or AFC South as potentially weakest due to inconsistent quarterback play, but division strength shifted throughout the season"

 

 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 12:59 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

For the first time since Todd Bowles took over as HC, the NFCSouth isn't the worst division in the conference - they are the second worst. Coincidentally enough, it's the first time Bowles didn't win the division.

Weird.

Its almost as if…


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 1:04 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @badabingbucs

you can try and debate but this is not a great argument. 

 

what's to argue, its a fact lol . . that the NFCS is the worst!

My point is a simple one:  many people start with a belief and then work backwards NEVER questioning their own assumptions.  And when they get facts to the contrary, they dont often modify their assumption. More often than not they just slide the bar.

"worst division in 2025" was a FACT

alternative information was provided (conference comparisons, Eagles, AI)

slide to   .. . "most people say its worst division"

slide to . . "since 2022"

 

* * *

 

BASIC HUMAN NATURE says its not a coincidence that posters who have been calling for Bowles head since 2022 would accept as "fact" that the NFCS was the worst division in 2025. It is not a fact though. Its an opinion and a pretty debatable one give the information I provided.

That does NOT mean Bowles is good or his performance "excused"

 

lol...i can tell you like to debate....which is why i wouldn't ask you "what is a man or can a man get pregnant" (and this is important distinction to your point of starting with a belief and working your way backwards comment)

but i digress, NFC South is consistently the worst division in football since 2022; and yes i would say the division winner not having a winning record makes it worse than the NFC East or NFC North. That could be subject to debate given overall winning percentage but historical stats side with 99% of NFL Fans, Coaches, Players, and Pundits opinion claiming the NFC South is the worst division in football.

 

 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 1:06 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @badabingbucs

you can try and debate but this is not a great argument. 

 

what's to argue, its a fact lol . . that the NFCS is the worst!

My point is a simple one:  many people start with a belief and then work backwards NEVER questioning their own assumptions.  And when they get facts to the contrary, they dont often modify their assumption. More often than not they just slide the bar.

"worst division in 2025" was a FACT

alternative information was provided (conference comparisons, Eagles, AI)

slide to   .. . "most people say its worst division"

slide to . . "since 2022"

 

* * *

 

BASIC HUMAN NATURE says its not a coincidence that posters who have been calling for Bowles head since 2022 would accept as "fact" that the NFCS was the worst division in 2025. It is not a fact though. Its an opinion and a pretty debatable one give the information I provided.

That does NOT mean Bowles is good or his performance "excused"

 

lol...i can tell you like to debate....which is why i wouldn't ask you "what is a man or can a man get pregnant" (and this is important distinction to your point of starting with a belief and working your way backwards comment)

but i digress, NFC South is consistently the worst division in football since 2022; and yes i would say the division winner not having a winning record makes it worse than the NFC East or NFC North. That could be subject to debate given overall winning percentage but historical stats side with 99% of NFL Fans, Coaches, Players, and Pundits opinion claiming the NFC South is the worst division in football.

 

 

 

lol okay

 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 1:16 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

division winner not having a winning record makes it worse than the NFC East

When the Vikings prepared to play the losing record Giants or Commanders or Cowboys they thought, "yeah but the Eagles tho."

That much more amazing that they beat the Giants, Commanders and Cowboys!

 

:-)


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 1:23 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

what is a man or can a man get pregnant

Sick burn.

When you asked this for what I can only assume is the 100th time online, have you ever gotten someone to say "yes I think a man can get pregnant"?  

Or is it possible nobody gives a fuck about this? 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 1:49 pm
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