it's in large part an extension with a slight improvement of that offense
Have no idea how you see that
What the fridge?!
Dropped TDs, no PI, no horsecollar??
Also, Trask sounds a lot like the word TRASH.
White asked about all the underneath opportunities answers by describing the defensive strategy the Bucs see going back to last year:
“Yeah, you can see a lot, teams just bail out,” White said. “They just drop out.
Dropping out to take away Evans and Godwin as much as possible.
he did not select the players and we did very little to improve our O-line, but this is why Canales is trying to maintain a balanced offense
(If Mayfield could consistently hit a deep ball . . . .ugh)
yesterday's game include the best receiving back in the game currently . .White?
just read that.
In one open field catch yesterday he made such a good move he left a very good defender tripping over himself
it's in large part an extension with a slight improvement of that offense
Have no idea how you see that
Referring to the outcome and execution, not the concepts or style.
But still a stubbornness to run early to set up the pass. Run early and often with no creativity.
But the route concepts are way better and different.
And your apologist dick riding makes you look like simpy simp.
All due respect of course...
Actually, I've been very openly critical of his sequencing and situational play calling.
But, you're too busy being your usual limp-dicked melodramatic self, and clearly haven't noticed (or are doing so on purpose...all the same).
All due respect, of course...
What else could he do? I'd imagine something more creative than a fucking hail Mary.
You're really gonna defend that play call? Seriously?
AGAIN, considering that situation (which I gave the details...while forgetting to mention that Baker had just taken a sack, thus clock running), what would YOU have dialed up?
Canales has been average at best here...
Depends on what you're talking about.
Passing philosophy? It's been borderline elite.
Route concepts? It's been borderline elite.
Situational play calling? Average at best.
Sequencing? Poor to average.
It takes him way too long to get the ball to our best play makers (White, Evans, Godwin)
This is utter bullshit if you're talking about the entirety of the season.
Time and time and time and time and time again, the film has shown these guys (as well as Palmer, Otton, etc.) NFL open to wide ass open more times than you can count.
And, wouldn't you know it? There's a reason Baker is on his 4th team in 6 years.
He struggles with his reads. He struggles with his progressions. For some weird reason, he's suddenly "trigger shy".
Not saying Dave is the 2nd coming of Reid, but execution has been the biggest factor to the offensive woes this season.
Lol the route concepts are not borderline elite. They are certainly better than Lefty... but he's allergic to running quick concepts like slants, rubs, and crossers (and when he does they will so he abandons it). The screen game tends to work but we don't see enough of it... especially with how good White is in space (TD last week vs Titans).
You're seriously gonna deny that he takes way too long to get the ball to our best players? He's been finding touches for fucking KEYSHAWN VAUGHN ffs...
The best coordinators play the strength of their qb... and I agree Baker is limited but you can still play to his strengths and stop beating your head against a wall and expect a leopard to change his spots. I do not see any of that from Canales. I see him calling plays that an elite QB would destroy it here. Baker isn't elite...he's average and too short.
You tend to put way too much blame on Baker, and I tend to put way too much blame on Canales.
It's probably somewhere in the middle with Bowles whispering in their ear to be conservative.
My biggest frustration with Canales is his situational play call for players that aren't very good (Otton, any RB not named White, the other crappy TEs, Thompkins).
My biggest frustration with Baker is his deep ball, batted balls, inaccurate throws, and him second guessing himself too often (the almost pump fake that's not really one)
And what would I have called instead of a hail Mary? Lmfao
Really anything would be fine. Run Evans and someone else vertical....run Godwin to the sticks, run White 10 yards behind the sticks. Let SF guard three levels instead of 1.
A hail Mary is a white flag. I didn't catch it live but it looked like everyone was in the same spot....so it wasn't vertical spread out even. Just a true hail Mary...
So what is that, 15-20 yards more than we needed?
You're seriously gonna defend that shit? Cmon...
it's in large part an extension with a slight improvement of that offense
Have no idea how you see that
Referring to the outcome and execution, not the concepts or style.
But still a stubbornness to run early to set up the pass. Run early and often with no creativity.
But the route concepts are way better and different.
oh I was thinking concept and style
He is going to have a stubbornness to run, but I am not sure its run early or even often as much as its just to not GIVE UP on the run. I think what he cares about, at this point, balance to keep a defense guessing, slow down pass rush and make things easier for Mayfield. On that last part (bold) this is one outsider's view of our offense:
"The Bucs' offense is overly reliant on Baker Mayfield. I've written about this at length in weeks past in the QB Index, and nothing has changed. They still can't run the ball. Winning was always going to be a tall task for the team, but it feels as if Mayfield is out there on his own, trying to keep the Bucs afloat with his desire and grit. That's usually the source of marginal differences in the NFL, not a winning formula. And it couldn't have been captured any better than in the two red-zone trips that produced zero points."
Canales has said that with a lead in his "heart of hearts" he would come out in the 2nd half and RUN the other team out of the stadium. That is a PHILOSOPHY and it is Pete Carroll's philosophy that goes beyond balance. Its the idea that you can take away the other team's will (Eagles did this to us) and, maybe more importantly, control the defense you see by forcing a team to stay in its base defense to stop the run.
So yes he is stubborn for running, but with good reason, especially given the state of this year's team
You're seriously gonna deny that he takes way too long to get the ball to our best players? He's been finding touches for fucking KEYSHAWN VAUGHN ffs...
on this part, you're presumably comparing Evans and Godwin to an RB?
they threw underneath to both yesterday so I think Canales might agree with you. That said though, the reason for less to those guys is the same as last year -- we dont have any other major threat. R White even pointed out yesterday (I posted the comment) that his success in screens and running is bin part because defenses drop off against us to take away Godwin and Evans
(btw, Godwin seems off, right? slower? still great hands but not separating?)
Look forward to him running behind a good run blocking yet one day. Get in him space and he's making guys miss routinely.Damn, Rachaad ended this guy's season.
The bottom line is that Canales is getting guys open a lot and Baker is failing to take advantage, a lot. Put 2021 Tom Brady on this team (not the 12lbs lost from depression over his ex Brady of 2022), and this offense would be elite. It's night and day better in scheme than what Leftwhich was running last season. But the QB play from Baker is just not consistent enough, nor accurate enough past 15 yards, to take advantage of the opportunities that are there. Time to move on from him. Staying with him is a waste of time.
You're seriously gonna deny that he takes way too long to get the ball to our best players? He's been finding touches for fucking KEYSHAWN VAUGHN ffs...
on this part, you're presumably comparing Evans and Godwin to an RB?
they threw underneath to both yesterday so I think Canales might agree with you. That said though, the reason for less to those guys is the same as last year -- we dont have any other major threat. R White even pointed out yesterday (I posted the comment) that his success in screens and running is bin part because defenses drop off against us to take away Godwin and Evans
(btw, Godwin seems off, right? slower? still great hands but not separating?)
Yesterday and the whole season. Evans and Godwin should get 10 targets per game period. That's the floor.
I don't know if Godwin looks slower or the routes aren't to his strengths or both. Probably both.
As far as Vaughn or Edmonds (both suck but at least Edmonds can pick up a blitz), they should be using White as a workhorse. He's an every down back... we NEED him to keep defenses honest in the flat.
I want to see White target 5 times in the passing game, 2 of which are screens.
Evans 10-15 targets
Godwin 8-12 targets
Palmer 3-5 targets
Thompkins - 0-2 targets
And let them run routes they excel at... Godwin on the forward pass jet sweep against Niners Lbs? Are you fucking kidding me?
