Zuttah is much better at OG than he is at C. The thought of going to get a legit C and move Zut to OG is a good one.
I'd be cool with the OP's scenario....all except throwing away our 4th on Murray. That guy is a turd. We could could probably get a decent OL prospect instead.
If Murray were healthy he would go in the 2nd round. Own his rights, let him get healthy and seasoned under Tedford, and trade his ass for a 2nd next year. This pick is nothing more than an investment.
Even before the injury I thought Murray was a choke artist. Not interested. Love everything else though!
a 4th round pick for the next Bruce Gradkowski/Colt McCoy/Chase Daniel/Kellen Moore... passdraft a better OG (or LB, OT, DT) in the 4th round and take a Connor Shaw/Jeff Matthews with the last pick, udfa(Bryn Renner, Jordan Lynch, Tyler Russell, James Franklin, Adam Kennedy, Keith Price, Casey Pachall, Keith Wenning...) or sign another FA for vet minimum.
Even before the injury I thought Murray was a choke artist. Not interested. Love everything else though!
It's the reseller in me...find something valuable, but broken, it will be cheap. Fix and sell it at market value, and make profit. Despite your personal feelings, does Murray carry a 2nd rd value in anyone else's eye? Personally, I dont like boats with inboard motors, but if the market value is there it wouldn't stop me from jumping on a good deal to turn a buck....if ya catch what I'm thrown...,
a 4th round pick for the next Bruce Gradkowski/Colt McCoy/Chase Daniel/Kellen Moore... passdraft a better OG (or LB, OT, DT) in the 4th round and take a Connor Shaw/Jeff Matthews with the last pick, udfa(Bryn Renner, Jordan Lynch, Tyler Russell, James Franklin, Adam Kennedy, Keith Price, Casey Pachall, Keith Wenning...) or sign another FA for vet minimum.
Missing the point entirely...see above...Also why would we sign 2 FA vet QB's??????
Missing the point entirely...see above...Also why would we sign 2 FA vet QB's??????
why would we sign and draft 2 QB's??????for the missing the point (investment/trade), you never trade a 2nd round pick for a 4th round QB unless he have good NFL tape(Kevin Kolb)
Missing the point entirely...see above...Also why would we sign 2 FA vet QB's??????
why would we sign and draft 2 QB's??????for the missing the point (investment/trade), you never trade a 2nd round pick for a 4th round QB unless he have good NFL tape(Kevin Kolb)
I'm sure after a year or two there will be tape. Agree to disagree, I just see value in Murray in the 4th and I know I'm not alone. Gil Brandt for one. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000288009/article/aaron-murray-will-be-middletolateround-steal-for-nfl-team
I'd be cool with the OP's scenario....all except throwing away our 4th on Murray. That guy is a turd. We could could probably get a decent OL prospect instead.
If Murray were healthy he would go in the 2nd round. Own his rights, let him get healthy and seasoned under Tedford, and trade his ass for a 2nd next year. This pick is nothing more than an investment.
So you're going to draft a guy in the 4th, have him sit on the bench and trade him after a season for a pick two rounds higher?
The Bucs will likely need to draft a LBer, DT depth, OL depth, and TE.
I'd be cool with the OP's scenario....all except throwing away our 4th on Murray. That guy is a turd. We could could probably get a decent OL prospect instead.
If Murray were healthy he would go in the 2nd round. Own his rights, let him get healthy and seasoned under Tedford, and trade his ass for a 2nd next year. This pick is nothing more than an investment.
So you're going to draft a guy in the 4th, have him sit on the bench and trade him after a season for a pick two rounds higher?
Who knows what you do with him, maybe he turns out to be a franchise guy and we keep. Bottom line I agree with Brandt via the article above, Murray is a steal in the mid to late rounds.
I read that Murray had the best completion percentage against a six-man rush. Manziel was the worst.
I read that Murray had the best completion percentage against a six-man rush. Manziel was the worst.
Yes, guy has brains, and leadership qualities. Has the resume against top notch competition. It seems I'm the only one on this bandwagon....plenty of space if you wanna jump on......
Although I love Watkins I think bigger need is LT. WR are available in FA if needed. I would take Mathews or Richardson in first.
I read that Murray had the best completion percentage against a six-man rush. Manziel was the worst.
Yes, guy has brains, and leadership qualities. Has the resume against top notch competition. It seems I'm the only one on this bandwagon....plenty of space if you wanna jump on......
I'm almost ready to get on the bandwagon. I need to do a little more research!
