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Russell is not an NFL player. 

Dennis I worry about injuries.

David is slow AF now and probably will get hurt.

Sign a MLB, draft a MLB before round 3.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 18, 2025 3:05 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Sign a MLB, draft a MLB before round 3.

 

Yup. You can sign a FA for good depth/rotation. 

Draft your future starter at ILB. 

In no particular order, go ILB, DL, and either WR or S within the first 3 rounds. 

 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 18, 2025 8:33 pm
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Sign a MLB, draft a MLB before round 3.

 

Yup. You can sign a FA for good depth/rotation. 

Draft your future starter at ILB. 

In no particular order, go ILB, DL, and either WR or S within the first 3 rounds. 

 

 

Yup agreed but I do think we can kick the can on wr for one more year unless one falls to us.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 18, 2025 10:42 pm
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Russell is not an NFL player. 

Dennis I worry about injuries.

David is slow AF now and probably will get hurt.

Sign a MLB, draft a MLB before round 3.

 

Russell is fine as depth as he is an ERFA.

Dennis has injury concerns but so do Kancey and Dean.

David was better than most think last season.  I think the Bucs will draft an ILB. Not many veteran ILB that I would say are worth throwing money toward though. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 19, 2025 9:05 am
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Yup agreed but I do think we can kick the can on wr for one more year unless one falls to us.

Most definitely. Bucs' priority should be defense for just about every position, maybe DL at the bottom of that list, but still, unless a premiere offensive talent fall to them...

 

 
Posted : Feb. 19, 2025 10:40 am
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Yup agreed but I do think we can kick the can on wr for one more year unless one falls to us.

Most definitely. Bucs' priority should be defense for just about every position, maybe DL at the bottom of that list, but still, unless a premiere offensive talent fall to them...

 

I do not see the Bucs passing on WR prospects in the third round.  McMillan was a great value in the third last draft, and it is going to be a great value position in the third again most likely in the upcoming draft.  Same with OG and DL respectively.

 

 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 19, 2025 1:01 pm
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Yup agreed but I do think we can kick the can on wr for one more year unless one falls to us.

Most definitely. Bucs' priority should be defense for just about every position, maybe DL at the bottom of that list, but still, unless a premiere offensive talent fall to them...

 

I do not see the Bucs passing on WR prospects in the third round.  McMillan was a great value in the third last draft, and it is going to be a great value position in the third again most likely in the upcoming draft.  Same with OG and DL respectively.

 

 

 

but why? How many years evans on this team in your mind?

how about Godwin? Atleast 3 right?

 

 
Posted : Feb. 19, 2025 1:22 pm
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Speaking of guard. The only offensive player I would consider at 19 that would realistically be there is Kelvin Banks Jr. His frame and skill set screams All-Pro guard. He'll be drafted as a LT, he'll play either OT spot well but for us we could slide him in right next to Wirfs and have a historically great offensive line. 

 
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Yup agreed but I do think we can kick the can on wr for one more year unless one falls to us.

Most definitely. Bucs' priority should be defense for just about every position, maybe DL at the bottom of that list, but still, unless a premiere offensive talent fall to them...

 

I do not see the Bucs passing on WR prospects in the third round.  McMillan was a great value in the third last draft, and it is going to be a great value position in the third again most likely in the upcoming draft.  Same with OG and DL respectively.

 

 

 

but why? How many years evans on this team in your mind?

how about Godwin? Atleast 3 right?

 

I am thinking 2 more years to be honest for Evans and Godwin maybe 3, but that could be only 2 years.  Plus, if Higgins is there in the third round why would the Bucs pass on him?  At 6-4 217 Higgins would compliment McMillan well.

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Speaking of guard. The only offensive player I would consider at 19 that would realistically be there is Kelvin Banks Jr. His frame and skill set screams All-Pro guard. He'll be drafted as a LT, he'll play either OT spot well but for us we could slide him in right next to Wirfs and have a historically great offensive line. 

Don't be surprised if Licht drafts another guard to plug in because Bredeson might be overpaid by some other team based on the Bucs offensive ranking in 2024 and not his true play performance.  People assume the Bucs go defense with the first pick but guard is in play as a darkhorse possibility. 

This draft is full of collegiate tackles that will convert to guard and Licht isn't going to pass up on that type of value. 

 

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Posted : Feb. 19, 2025 2:49 pm
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This draft is full of collegiate tackles that will convert to guard and Licht isn't going to pass up on that type of value. 

If that's the case, why would Licht spend a 1st on a guard?

 

 
Posted : Feb. 19, 2025 4:34 pm
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Yup agreed but I do think we can kick the can on wr for one more year unless one falls to us.

Most definitely. Bucs' priority should be defense for just about every position, maybe DL at the bottom of that list, but still, unless a premiere offensive talent fall to them...

 

I do not see the Bucs passing on WR prospects in the third round.  McMillan was a great value in the third last draft, and it is going to be a great value position in the third again most likely in the upcoming draft.  Same with OG and DL respectively.

 

 

 

If there's value at the position go for it. I'm all about BPA. I just prefer that player is on defense for 80% of this draft 

 

 
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This draft is full of collegiate tackles that will convert to guard and Licht isn't going to pass up on that type of value. 

If that's the case, why would Licht spend a 1st on a guard?

 

I agree 100% but if Licht wants to maximize value of the first round contract he might be tempted to pull the trigger in the first round.  Historically Licht takes OL in rounds 2 and 3 respectively. 

The only wrinkle to that is that the Bucs do need to draft an ILB at some point between rounds 1-4. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 19, 2025 11:37 pm
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This is an interesting draft, and it seems good for D-Line… but it seems skewed towards DT’s. Is there an Edge difference-maker at #19? 

my concern is, we end up with another JTS who “looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane”…and one that has no ceiling.

I would prefer we get an edge via trade - but that would take a trade of some draft picks, and we all know Licht doesn’t like doing that.

If there are o-linemen that could be moved from tackle to guard…then you can get that in a lower round than 1st. 

We don’t have combine data, we do have college production, but I haven’t been super impressed with the rankings of available corners & ILB types at #19… 

I’m concerned that Licht thinks because it’s a deep draft for D-Line - it could be that a great Edge falls to #19 - I just think this year seems to be lining up to trade out of #19, get a proven, young, Edge via trade, build out our depth with more picks.

I don’t think we should reach on a Guard in the 1st or 2nd round.

It will be interesting to see what Licht has been working on - I hope it’s NOT finding our Edge of the future towards the bottom of this draft - intending to put that project into the Bucs JTS lab to so this crew can then “coach ‘em up” - because we have never been able to do that.

Still crossing my fingers for some combination of trade for an Edge, find a ILB/CB in free agency - and draft a corner & safety.

 
Posted : Feb. 20, 2025 11:11 am
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Speaking of guard. The only offensive player I would consider at 19 that would realistically be there is Kelvin Banks Jr. His frame and skill set screams All-Pro guard. He'll be drafted as a LT, he'll play either OT spot well but for us we could slide him in right next to Wirfs and have a historically great offensive line. 

There are going to have to be a lot of players off of the board for that to make sense.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 20, 2025 11:57 am
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Yup agreed but I do think we can kick the can on wr for one more year unless one falls to us.

Most definitely. Bucs' priority should be defense for just about every position, maybe DL at the bottom of that list, but still, unless a premiere offensive talent fall to them...

 

I do not see the Bucs passing on WR prospects in the third round.  McMillan was a great value in the third last draft, and it is going to be a great value position in the third again most likely in the upcoming draft.  Same with OG and DL respectively.

 

 

 

but why? How many years evans on this team in your mind?

how about Godwin? Atleast 3 right?

 

I am thinking 2 more years to be honest for Evans and Godwin maybe 3, but that could be only 2 years.  Plus, if Higgins is there in the third round why would the Bucs pass on him?  At 6-4 217 Higgins would compliment McMillan well.

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Speaking of guard. The only offensive player I would consider at 19 that would realistically be there is Kelvin Banks Jr. His frame and skill set screams All-Pro guard. He'll be drafted as a LT, he'll play either OT spot well but for us we could slide him in right next to Wirfs and have a historically great offensive line. 

Don't be surprised if Licht drafts another guard to plug in because Bredeson might be overpaid by some other team based on the Bucs offensive ranking in 2024 and not his true play performance.  People assume the Bucs go defense with the first pick but guard is in play as a darkhorse possibility. 

This draft is full of collegiate tackles that will convert to guard and Licht isn't going to pass up on that type of value. 

 

my point is more that for 2-3 years you will have an asset wasting on the sidelines.  only so many balls to go around.  Think about when we had AB....no other WR got looks outside of the top three

Johnson and Miller barely got targets/reps

so with a team whose offense is already in the top 5 and the defense is ass...just think our first 3-4 picks should be defense.  if you want to use 1 for offense...ehh ok...but the talent deficiency on defense needs all the help it can get 

 

 
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