ProFootballTalk ?@ProFootballTalk 3mSchiano's candidacy created "major rift" between Haslam and Banner, per @SI_PeterKing http://wp.me/p14QSB-9pwa
Officially, there’s no one moment that caused Browns owner Jimmy Haslam to lose faith in his former management team of CEO Joe Banner and G.M. Michael Lombardi.Unofficially, Peter King may have identified the catalyst for sudden and unexpected and sweeping change.King writes at TheMMQB.com that Banner had strong opposition to the possible hiring of fired Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano, while owner Jimmy Haslam was intrigued. Ohio State coach Urban Meyer had called to recommend Schiano. Patriots coach Bill Belichick called. Twice.While that could have been the last straw, King points to other evidence, such as an awkward moment between Banner and Ken Whisenhunt, when Whisenhunt interviewed for the job a second straight year and wanted to know why he didn’t get the gig the prior year. Banner reportedly didn’t think Whisenhunt had compiled a “championship coaching staff,” Whisenhunt openly questioned Banner’s ability to make that assessment, and a seed may have been planted for Haslam.It seems that Haslam, who admits he’s learning on the fly, is too concerned about voices outside the organization, because plenty of voices outside the organization had been saying not-so-favorable things about Banner and Lombardi, even though Banner spent a generation as a successful executive with a perennial contender in Philadelphia. The notion, as reported Tuesday by Mary Cay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, that Whisenhunt and Bill O’Brien and Adam Gase didn’t want to coach the Browns because of the management structure, apparently took root with Haslam.The inclusion of Gase on the list is intriguing. Surely, Gase had gotten input about Haslam and his organization from Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning, who knows Haslam via their mutual Tennessee connection. If Gase thought there was a problem with the management team, there’s a good chance Manning (who’s older than Gase) thought there was a problem with the management team. Is it outlandish to think that Peyton Manning, who called the Lions in unsolicited fashion to support Jim Caldwell for head coach, may have shared his own assessment of the former management team with Haslam?The problem for Haslam is that he waited until after the coaching search ended before firing the men who hired Mike Pettine. Now, Pettine and G.M. Ray Farmer will have to coexist, knowing that their mutual boss keeps his finger at all times close to the trigger.Especially with Peyton Manning a year or two away from being able to give Haslam and the Browns the credibility they so desperately need, by assuming a John Elway-style role with the franchise.
Belichick really trying to land Gordon
Lets be serious bellichick of course wanted schiano to get that job how else would he get josh gordan for a 7th rounder?
It would have been Josh Gordon and Joe Thomas and both #1s for Devin McCourty, Logan Ryan, Duron Harmon, Steve Beauharnais
Schiano is tanking a lot of people. The drama train is now boarding!
you guys are dumb as hell. you honestly believe what you type implying schiano was basically giving players to belicheck? aqib and blount??? are you **CENSORED**ing kidding me? man sometimes i think the people on this board are the dumbest ppl on the face of this planet.
you guys are dumb as hell. you honestly believe what you type implying schiano was basically giving players to belicheck? aqib and blount??? are you **CENSORED**ing kidding me? man sometimes i think the people on this board are the dumbest ppl on the face of this planet.
Belichick took advantage of Schiano's ineptness. Just like he did with the Raiders when he got Moss for a 4th and got #7 overall for Seymour. It's not out of the realm of possibility he would have traded Josh Gordon to Belichick.
Belicheck really wants Josh Gordon.
you guys are dumb as hell. you honestly believe what you type implying schiano was basically giving players to belicheck? aqib and blount??? are you **CENSORED**ing kidding me? man sometimes i think the people on this board are the dumbest ppl on the face of this planet.
Greg is that you?
you guys are dumb as hell. you honestly believe what you type implying schiano was basically giving players to belicheck? aqib and blount??? are you **CENSORED**ing kidding me? man sometimes i think the people on this board are the dumbest ppl on the face of this planet.
No Dom was in on it too
So Greg Schiano has the ability obliterate two franchises in one year. He is hereby dubbed the anti-Gruden.
Did you see that AFC Championship game? Blount got 6 yards on 5 carries. Yeah we sure miss having him!
The nfl needs schiano like k2 needs another container of vaseline.Other than scouting, he truly was a pathetic HC.
Well the Browns had possibly the worst coaching search in modern NFL history. Multiple candidates pulling out and complaining about disrespected in the interview process.So Banner probably did deserve to get fired, it's just kind of late to completely clean house in the front office. It fits their pattern of complete incontinuity at any level of the organization.Pettine better find success there fast or he'll be on the hot seat in week 1. Now he already knows that the Owner of the team wanted someone else.