Here's the thing. Many people wanted Cam Jordan and were shocked when we passed on him for Clayborn.These are things that cannot be swept under the rug because the decisions looked bad from the start.People on here wanted Freeney/Abraham, it was obvious this team needed an edge rusher. It was common sense.How am I an idiot when I wanted this team to be run with some common sense? Not Dominik logic which had usbuild the defense from the back end, no edge rusher, no tight end, no SLOT WR, no speed on offense... just a football team built backwards and now we're paying the price instead of having a legit roster.This is not about HINDSIGHT, its about COMMON SENSE. Look at Seattle, what they did with Avril and Bennet... those are signings that shows brainsbecause it makes perfect sense to have a rotational dline that can get after it. I judge Dominik mostly by the dline and the defense. Clayborn off a knee injury coming off the edge, instead of Abraham/Freeney? After already failing on the pick instead of picking the BPA Cam Jordan...
SMH Freeney was hurt most of the season and didn't have much of an impact when healthy. Abraham was a known cancer. I wanted Cam Jordan also, but it was definitely more of a toss up than you lead on. Cam didn't have near the production Clay had in college.But I suppose your common sense would have moved back up into the first to grab Doug. Or moved again to grab undersized LB in Lavonte, who has become one of the best LBs in the league.Please, what I'd like you to do is create your common sensical offseason right now (keeping in mind financial constraints - not just "ohh i want him and him and him") and we'll see how much "common sense" (apparently AKA precognition) you have. I do think Dom made some bad choices(like all GMs), but you're roasting him for the wrong things and neglecting praise for the good things.
I honestly think we are 10 good players away from having a Super Bowl worthy team... just too many mistakes made by Dominik for us to be optimistic about our roster for the next couple years. I'd blow this team up and start over before trying to hand out any kind of big contract again. Other than David, McCoy, VJax, Goldson (we are tied to him), Barron, Dotson, Martin/Mike James and Wright... they can all be scrapped for all I care, build for the future we need to rebuild this team... we are far away from being like the 9ers or Seahawks.... best case scenario is we are the Chiefs next year...one and done...I rather blow this thing up and build a juggernaut
Here's the thing. Many people wanted Cam Jordan and were shocked when we passed on him for Clayborn.These are things that cannot be swept under the rug because the decisions looked bad from the start.People on here wanted Freeney/Abraham, it was obvious this team needed an edge rusher. It was common sense.How am I an idiot when I wanted this team to be run with some common sense? Not Dominik logic which had usbuild the defense from the back end, no edge rusher, no tight end, no SLOT WR, no speed on offense... just a football team built backwards and now we're paying the price instead of having a legit roster.This is not about HINDSIGHT, its about COMMON SENSE. Look at Seattle, what they did with Avril and Bennet... those are signings that shows brainsbecause it makes perfect sense to have a rotational dline that can get after it. I judge Dominik mostly by the dline and the defense. Clayborn off a knee injury coming off the edge, instead of Abraham/Freeney? After already failing on the pick instead of picking the BPA Cam Jordan...
SMH Freeney was hurt most of the season and didn't have much of an impact when healthy. Abraham was a known cancer. I wanted Cam Jordan also, but it was definitely more of a toss up than you lead on. Cam didn't have near the production Clay had in college.But I suppose your common sense would have moved back up into the first to grab Doug. Or moved again to grab undersized LB in Lavonte, who has become one of the best LBs in the league.Please, what I'd like you to do is create your common sensical offseason right now (keeping in mind financial constraints - not just "ohh i want him and him and him") and we'll see how much "common sense" (apparently AKA precognition) you have. I do think Dom made some bad choices(like all GMs), but you're roasting him for the wrong things and neglecting praise for the good things.
I honestly think we are 10 good players away from having a Super Bowl worthy team... just too many mistakes made by Dominik for us to be optimistic about our roster for the next couple years. I'd blow this team up and start over before trying to hand out any kind of big contract again. Other than David, McCoy, VJax, Goldson (we are tied to him), Barron, Dotson, Martin/Mike James and Wright... they can all be scrapped for all I care, build for the future we need to rebuild this team... we are far away from being like the 9ers or Seahawks.... best case scenario is we are the Chiefs next year...one and done...I rather blow this thing up and build a juggernaut
Most teams at the bottom of the league are 10 players away from having a Super Bowl worthy team. But your whole OP is about the players that Dom should have drafted that everyone knew were going to be good. Name who those players are in this year's draft.
And Freeney wasn't much of an impact because he was playing in a 3-4
Ok...I'm not a big fan of Mark Dominik's drafting strategy. I'm ok with his cap management without which we would have been in much worse shape - but I don't agree with the philosophy of drafting a RB or a Safety or a OG in the first round. The consensus wisdom is that RB is a position best addressed in rounds 4-7, and safeties - even with high potential - should be addressed in round 2 onwards. We used a very high pick on Barron and although I like him as a player - there's not much difference between him and Goldson (sp?) in terms of position and skill sets. Same with Doug Martin - like the player, but don't see a huge drop off from him to Rainey or Mike James. We could have used those picks on a solid LT or a DE. Dominik did a really good job with Lavonte David, and completely blew it with Freeman. Overall, the roster could have better used the first round picks on key positions.
That still isn't a great D-Line. No speed rushers. No 10+ sack guys. I'd rather have Revis than Sheldon Richardson.
Peter Green and Fleetwood Mac did a better version of Black Magic Woman. Other than that this thread fails.
That still isn't a great D-Line. No speed rushers. No 10+ sack guys. I'd rather have Revis than Sheldon Richardson.
Are you crazy??! We'd have a better Dline than Seattle by a mile and they didnt have a 10+ sack guyCam Jordan, McCoy, Richardson, Bennett/Abraham.... 3 out of those 4 having a one on one on most downs would produce huge sacks numbers.
Here's the thing. Many people wanted Cam Jordan and were shocked when we passed on him for Clayborn.These are things that cannot be swept under the rug because the decisions looked bad from the start.People on here wanted Freeney/Abraham, it was obvious this team needed an edge rusher. It was common sense.How am I an idiot when I wanted this team to be run with some common sense? Not Dominik logic which had usbuild the defense from the back end, no edge rusher, no tight end, no SLOT WR, no speed on offense... just a football team built backwards and now we're paying the price instead of having a legit roster.This is not about HINDSIGHT, its about COMMON SENSE. Look at Seattle, what they did with Avril and Bennet... those are signings that shows brainsbecause it makes perfect sense to have a rotational dline that can get after it. I judge Dominik mostly by the dline and the defense. Clayborn off a knee injury coming off the edge, instead of Abraham/Freeney? After already failing on the pick instead of picking the BPA Cam Jordan...
SMH Freeney was hurt most of the season and didn't have much of an impact when healthy. Abraham was a known cancer. I wanted Cam Jordan also, but it was definitely more of a toss up than you lead on. Cam didn't have near the production Clay had in college.But I suppose your common sense would have moved back up into the first to grab Doug. Or moved again to grab undersized LB in Lavonte, who has become one of the best LBs in the league.Please, what I'd like you to do is create your common sensical offseason right now (keeping in mind financial constraints - not just "ohh i want him and him and him") and we'll see how much "common sense" (apparently AKA precognition) you have. I do think Dom made some bad choices(like all GMs), but you're roasting him for the wrong things and neglecting praise for the good things.
I honestly think we are 10 good players away from having a Super Bowl worthy team... just too many mistakes made by Dominik for us to be optimistic about our roster for the next couple years. I'd blow this team up and start over before trying to hand out any kind of big contract again. Other than David, McCoy, VJax, Goldson (we are tied to him), Barron, Dotson, Martin/Mike James and Wright... they can all be scrapped for all I care, build for the future we need to rebuild this team... we are far away from being like the 9ers or Seahawks.... best case scenario is we are the Chiefs next year...one and done...I rather blow this thing up and build a juggernaut
Why would you give up and start over when you're ~80% of the way there?
10 us a high number. I'd say more like about 7 or 8.
Here's the thing. Many people wanted Cam Jordan and were shocked when we passed on him for Clayborn.These are things that cannot be swept under the rug because the decisions looked bad from the start.People on here wanted Freeney/Abraham, it was obvious this team needed an edge rusher. It was common sense.How am I an idiot when I wanted this team to be run with some common sense? Not Dominik logic which had usbuild the defense from the back end, no edge rusher, no tight end, no SLOT WR, no speed on offense... just a football team built backwards and now we're paying the price instead of having a legit roster.This is not about HINDSIGHT, its about COMMON SENSE. Look at Seattle, what they did with Avril and Bennet... those are signings that shows brainsbecause it makes perfect sense to have a rotational dline that can get after it. I judge Dominik mostly by the dline and the defense. Clayborn off a knee injury coming off the edge, instead of Abraham/Freeney? After already failing on the pick instead of picking the BPA Cam Jordan...
SMH Freeney was hurt most of the season and didn't have much of an impact when healthy. Abraham was a known cancer. I wanted Cam Jordan also, but it was definitely more of a toss up than you lead on. Cam didn't have near the production Clay had in college.But I suppose your common sense would have moved back up into the first to grab Doug. Or moved again to grab undersized LB in Lavonte, who has become one of the best LBs in the league.Please, what I'd like you to do is create your common sensical offseason right now (keeping in mind financial constraints - not just "ohh i want him and him and him") and we'll see how much "common sense" (apparently AKA precognition) you have. I do think Dom made some bad choices(like all GMs), but you're roasting him for the wrong things and neglecting praise for the good things.
I honestly think we are 10 good players away from having a Super Bowl worthy team... just too many mistakes made by Dominik for us to be optimistic about our roster for the next couple years. I'd blow this team up and start over before trying to hand out any kind of big contract again. Other than David, McCoy, VJax, Goldson (we are tied to him), Barron, Dotson, Martin/Mike James and Wright... they can all be scrapped for all I care, build for the future we need to rebuild this team... we are far away from being like the 9ers or Seahawks.... best case scenario is we are the Chiefs next year...one and done...I rather blow this thing up and build a juggernaut
Why would you give up and start over when you're ~80% of the way there?
We are 60% there...no QB, short on offensive fire power, o-line is a train wreck. While the defense was built backwards...
10 us a high number. I'd say more like about 7 or 8.
The Dline alone needs 4 guys (3 atleast), a rotation of guys is needed (Seattle, SF, NYG). Not Bowers, Clayborn, DTN type of crapWe need 2 cb's one for the slot (I like how GB has there CB situation)QB, 1 dynamic receiver, a TE, a MLB that can coverThat's 10, not even mentioning the 4 out 5 o-line men that are terrible
2 oline2 Eline1 lb1 WR1 te
Oh yeah and QB so 8
Like it or not the best GMs only hit on 1-2 long term players each draft. Dominik more or less accomplished that. The problem was the successful GMs are able to piece together thise 1-2 long term players each draft with some free agents and other short term players and win games, usually by having a good QB. Dominik obviously couldn't do that.
True, he stuck with Freeman, but he brought in a rookie last year to try and change that. We'll see this year if Dom was right on correcting the mistake or if the new GM has to fix yet another mistake.
That still isn't a great D-Line. No speed rushers. No 10+ sack guys. I'd rather have Revis than Sheldon Richardson.
Are you crazy??! We'd have a better Dline than Seattle by a mile and they didnt have a 10+ sack guyCam Jordan, McCoy, Richardson, Bennett/Abraham.... 3 out of those 4 having a one on one on most downs would produce huge sacks numbers.
I think most of the board would say your the crazy one with this thread. Both Jordan and Bennett are LDEs. Abraham is on his last legs.
