We're going to be looking at something like this:Texans - Bridge/BortlesRams - Matthews (Or Cleveland trade up for Manziel)Jags - Bortles/BridgeBrowns - ManzielOakland - ClowneyFalcons - Barr/RobinsonWe'll still have a chance at Barr, and there is a possibility we trade up with Oakland at 5 to get Clowney.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VnOuwk59gw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6L5AZxE1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNvLP-WI5g 32nd in the league in Passing Offense? Lowest YPA? Only team in the NFL under 200 receiving yards per game?Sammy. Watkins.
You only draft a WR when you know you have QB and DE locked down. We have NEITHER. Screw drafting this guy!
We do have a QB - and we can get Allen in FAYou think Lovie doesn't know about Jared Allen?You think Allen doesn't wouldn't want to play on Lovie's D with GMC on the line and Revis behind him?I'm actually really starting to like the Watkins idea. Hell, all Glennon needs to do is be able to throw a slant pass. And we all know he can do that.Watkins or Matthews for me.
I like the Watkins idea too. Just not more than the JFF or Clowney idea.
I like the Watkins idea too. Just not more than the JFF or Clowney idea.
But would you want to give up as much as we would need to in order to get one of those guys?
I like the Watkins idea too. Just not more than the JFF or Clowney idea.
But would you want to give up as much as we would need to in order to get one of those guys?
Depends on exactly what it would cost. If it's the price the team would have to pay to move up to the top 3 or so - heck no. But consider a couple of years ago when we traded down from 5th to 7th overall and picked Barron. We only got a fourth for our trouble. While we admittedly put that fourth to good use, I wouldn't object to the team spending one to make sure they got their guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VnOuwk59gw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6L5AZxE1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNvLP-WI5g 32nd in the league in Passing Offense? Lowest YPA? Only team in the NFL under 200 receiving yards per game?Sammy. Watkins.
You only draft a WR when you know you have QB and DE locked down. We have NEITHER. Screw drafting this guy!
We do have a QB - and we can get Allen in FAYou think Lovie doesn't know about Jared Allen?You think Allen doesn't wouldn't want to play on Lovie's D with GMC on the line and Revis behind him?I'm actually really starting to like the Watkins idea. Hell, all Glennon needs to do is be able to throw a slant pass. And we all know he can do that.Watkins or Matthews for me.
Because YOU have faith in Glennon does NOT mean everybody else does. I understand he has his following, but I do NOT have COMPLETE trust in Glennon. I believe Glennon showed us something. However I believe he showed just as much as Bruce Gradkowski did during his rookie year. See how well he did? I want to see him with coaching. I want to see him play, however I don't want to bank on him taking us to the promised land. I'd take OL before a WR too. Its not like our line performed this year. Watkins seems more like a luxury for a team that has serious NEEDS. I'd take DE, QB, OL in that order depending on the Bucs actual Board.
Watkins is fourth on my wish list. Third, if you take out boring offensive lineman picks!1. Clowney2. Bridgewater3. Matthews4. Watkins...100. Manziel
If we pass up on Watkins, it will be compared to us passing up A.D. Peterson.There isn't great need at the position, but the guy will be a complete stud and game changer for the next 7+ seasons, and both WRs we currently have will be long gone by that time...just like Caddy was shortly after passing up A.D...Team Sammy Watkins.
If we pass up on Watkins, it will be compared to us passing up A.D. Peterson.There isn't great need at the position, but the guy will be a complete stud and game changer for the next 7+ seasons, and both WRs we currently have will be long gone by that time...just like Caddy was shortly after passing up A.D...Team Sammy Watkins.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VnOuwk59gw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6L5AZxE1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNvLP-WI5g 32nd in the league in Passing Offense? Lowest YPA? Only team in the NFL under 200 receiving yards per game?Sammy. Watkins.
You only draft a WR when you know you have QB and DE locked down. We have NEITHER. Screw drafting this guy!
We do have a QB - and we can get Allen in FAYou think Lovie doesn't know about Jared Allen?You think Allen doesn't wouldn't want to play on Lovie's D with GMC on the line and Revis behind him?I'm actually really starting to like the Watkins idea. Hell, all Glennon needs to do is be able to throw a slant pass. And we all know he can do that.Watkins or Matthews for me.
Because YOU have faith in Glennon does NOT mean everybody else does. I understand he has his following, but I do NOT have COMPLETE trust in Glennon. I believe Glennon showed us something. However I believe he showed just as much as Bruce Gradkowski did during his rookie year. See how well he did? I want to see him with coaching. I want to see him play, however I don't want to bank on him taking us to the promised land. I'd take OL before a WR too. Its not like our line performed this year. Watkins seems more like a luxury for a team that has serious NEEDS. I'd take DE, QB, OL in that order depending on the Bucs actual Board.
I need to point your Gradkowski statement out to show you how wrong you are. Talk about revisionist history to support your skewed perception of realityBoth played 13 games their rookie season:54% Completion, 1600 yards, 9 TDS, 9 INTS, 5.1 yd avg 65 Rating60% Completion, 2600 yards, 19 TDS, 9 INTS, 6.3 yd avg 83 RatingTake a guess, who's who?You say you want to see him with coaching and to see him play, but then you don't? What do you think would happen to those stats given a full season of playing, another year of learning under his belt, and 2 of his top 3 offensive weapons back, and an adding Sammy Watkins?
If we pass up on Watkins, it will be compared to us passing up A.D. Peterson.
Depends, I guess. Had the Bucs taken Patrick Willis or Darrelle Revis when they passed on Peterson, no one would care.
Sammy. Watkins.
You only draft a WR when you know you have QB and DE locked down. We have NEITHER. Screw drafting this guy!
We do have a QB - and we can get Allen in FAYou think Lovie doesn't know about Jared Allen?You think Allen doesn't wouldn't want to play on Lovie's D with GMC on the line and Revis behind him?I'm actually really starting to like the Watkins idea. Hell, all Glennon needs to do is be able to throw a slant pass. And we all know he can do that.Watkins or Matthews for me.
Because YOU have faith in Glennon does NOT mean everybody else does. I understand he has his following, but I do NOT have COMPLETE trust in Glennon. I believe Glennon showed us something. However I believe he showed just as much as Bruce Gradkowski did during his rookie year. See how well he did? I want to see him with coaching. I want to see him play, however I don't want to bank on him taking us to the promised land. I'd take OL before a WR too. Its not like our line performed this year. Watkins seems more like a luxury for a team that has serious NEEDS. I'd take DE, QB, OL in that order depending on the Bucs actual Board.
I need to point your Gradkowski statement out to show you how wrong you are. Talk about revisionist history to support your skewed perception of realityBoth played 13 games their rookie season:54% Completion, 1600 yards, 9 TDS, 9 INTS, 5.1 yd avg 65 Rating60% Completion, 2600 yards, 19 TDS, 9 INTS, 6.3 yd avg 83 RatingTake a guess, who's who?You say you want to see him with coaching and to see him play, but then you don't? What do you think would happen to those stats given a full season of playing, another year of learning under his belt, and 2 of his top 3 offensive weapons back, and an adding Sammy Watkins?
I'm not comparing stats. I'm comparing the fact that everybody was super high on them after they took over for the starters that were in place. BG over Chris Simms and MG over Freefail. People are comparing them to the person they took over from. Not the elite QBs in the league. Glennon, like Gradkowski, looked good in the first 2-3 games, then it was all down hill from there. Glennon didn't do squat for the rest of the year. I bet Glennon would love an O Line more than another weapons. Between VJax, MW19, Wright, Dougie he will live. Hell thats more weapons than Brady has. As far as drafting a QB, its up to the current staff, if they want to roll with MG, then I'm all for it. If they sign #69 Allen, and not draft a DE I'm cool with that too. However I don't think drafting Watkins will do squat for Glennon if he can't even complete a 3 step drop to throw that slant. Also, MG was pretty close to playing a full season...
If we pass up on Watkins, it will be compared to us passing up A.D. Peterson.There isn't great need at the position, but the guy will be a complete stud and game changer for the next 7+ seasons, and both WRs we currently have will be long gone by that time...just like Caddy was shortly after passing up A.D...Team Sammy Watkins.
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