@firebowles2026 - It’s unlikely we’ll see a return close to a second-round pick for Winfield. As he enters his seventh season, it’s clear he’s not going to get any faster, and his range has never been a strength of his. I appreciate his contributions, but his cap hit exceeds his on-field value at this stage.
Interesting off season plan of rebalancing the value of the team to the front lines. I would take a different approach.
Keep the draft picks, move T. Smith back to NCB, move Parrish to boundary CB to compete with McCollum and Morrison. Roberts is your new LDE replacing Hall.
From free agency the Bucs nab two veteran ILB, a veteran DT with more size over Gaines and a veteran safety to play next to Winfield Jr to help him and guide him as a coach on the field. Add a TE that is more dynamic in the passing game and Durham is your true #2 TE with Culp as your #3.
For the draft the Bucs would draft two OLB in rounds 1 and 2 and draft the best available guard in round 3. Round 4 the Bucs add another DT to solidify the middle.
The middle of the Bucs on offense and defense were weak in 2025 so addressing DT, OG, S and ILB is of upmost importance.
Interesting off season plan of rebalancing the value of the team to the front lines. I would take a different approach.
Keep the draft picks, move T. Smith back to NCB, move Parrish to boundary CB to compete with McCollum and Morrison. Roberts is your new LDE replacing Hall.
From free agency the Bucs nab two veteran ILB, a veteran DT with more size over Gaines and a veteran safety to play next to Winfield Jr to help him and guide him as a coach on the field. Add a TE that is more dynamic in the passing game and Durham is your true #2 TE with Culp as your #3.
For the draft the Bucs would draft two OLB in rounds 1 and 2 and draft the best available guard in round 3. Round 4 the Bucs add another DT to solidify the middle.
The middle of the Bucs on offense and defense were weak in 2025 so addressing DT, OG, S and ILB is of upmost importance.
This would work. I would only add that they would probably grab an OLB in FA if they can find one
On paper, that’s not a horrible plan. But everything would have to fall in place perfectly.
Tykee Smith was our best defensive player over much of the first half of the season… and that was at strong safety. We’re hearing so many disgruntled players letting out complaints, and I saw Tykee’s performance be a factor of that.
If we move him to NCB and he is on the field 70% of the time, we lose him, and should just go ahead and trade him. On any other defense Tykee is a starting safety.
If we are relying solely on the draft for our edge help, we will be exactly where we have been for 4 seasons. Who have we ever developed at edge? No one. And rookie pass rushers rarely produce.
One small request, a small tweak you could probably make.... GET REAL! McDaniel is not coming here. Bucs aren't trading a first for Max Crosby when he's on the injury side of his career. I'd take Hendrickson, but he could get the tag. And the Bucs may be a little gun shy about signing another defensive end who's recently gone through a serious contract dispute.
Interesting off season plan of rebalancing the value of the team to the front lines. I would take a different approach.
Keep the draft picks, move T. Smith back to NCB, move Parrish to boundary CB to compete with McCollum and Morrison. Roberts is your new LDE replacing Hall.
From free agency the Bucs nab two veteran ILB, a veteran DT with more size over Gaines and a veteran safety to play next to Winfield Jr to help him and guide him as a coach on the field. Add a TE that is more dynamic in the passing game and Durham is your true #2 TE with Culp as your #3.
For the draft the Bucs would draft two OLB in rounds 1 and 2 and draft the best available guard in round 3. Round 4 the Bucs add another DT to solidify the middle.
The middle of the Bucs on offense and defense were weak in 2025 so addressing DT, OG, S and ILB is of upmost importance.
This would work. I would only add that they would probably grab an OLB in FA if they can find one
Yeah nabbing another veteran OLB would be realistic. Bucs need to keep trying to bring in vets to help bridge some gaps.
On paper, that’s not a horrible plan. But everything would have to fall in place perfectly.
Tykee Smith was our best defensive player over much of the first half of the season… and that was at strong safety. We’re hearing so many disgruntled players letting out complaints, and I saw Tykee’s performance be a factor of that.
If we move him to NCB and he is on the field 70% of the time, we lose him, and should just go ahead and trade him. On any other defense Tykee is a starting safety.
If we are relying solely on the draft for our edge help, we will be exactly where we have been for 4 seasons. Who have we ever developed at edge? No one. And rookie pass rushers rarely produce.
I don't think the Bucs would rely on the draft.
They tried to do a veteran + draft combo two years in a row and both flamed out.
But I would propose draft two edge rushers + trade/sign vet. Along with Walker returning from injury that is four new faces to the edge room.
Tykee Smith was our best defensive player over much of the first half of the season
I've heard this claim a few times. What is it based on?
Guys. Godwin and Winfield are not getting traded.
I like this plan as opposed to a complete teardown. It would be awesome if we somehow managed to pull off a trade for Maxx. That guy is a gamechanger.Interesting off season plan of rebalancing the value of the team to the front lines. I would take a different approach.
Keep the draft picks, move T. Smith back to NCB, move Parrish to boundary CB to compete with McCollum and Morrison. Roberts is your new LDE replacing Hall.
From free agency the Bucs nab two veteran ILB, a veteran DT with more size over Gaines and a veteran safety to play next to Winfield Jr to help him and guide him as a coach on the field. Add a TE that is more dynamic in the passing game and Durham is your true #2 TE with Culp as your #3.
For the draft the Bucs would draft two OLB in rounds 1 and 2 and draft the best available guard in round 3. Round 4 the Bucs add another DT to solidify the middle.
The middle of the Bucs on offense and defense were weak in 2025 so addressing DT, OG, S and ILB is of upmost importance.
Rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
The team is going nowhere with a 93-104 GM and a crappy HC
Need a total extermination of everything Bruce Arians.
No more dinosaurs. SMDH. Crappy org
I like this plan as opposed to a complete teardown. It would be awesome if we somehow managed to pull off a trade for Maxx. That guy is a gamechanger.Interesting off season plan of rebalancing the value of the team to the front lines. I would take a different approach.
Keep the draft picks, move T. Smith back to NCB, move Parrish to boundary CB to compete with McCollum and Morrison. Roberts is your new LDE replacing Hall.
From free agency the Bucs nab two veteran ILB, a veteran DT with more size over Gaines and a veteran safety to play next to Winfield Jr to help him and guide him as a coach on the field. Add a TE that is more dynamic in the passing game and Durham is your true #2 TE with Culp as your #3.
For the draft the Bucs would draft two OLB in rounds 1 and 2 and draft the best available guard in round 3. Round 4 the Bucs add another DT to solidify the middle.
The middle of the Bucs on offense and defense were weak in 2025 so addressing DT, OG, S and ILB is of upmost importance.
Crosby would be a game changer but this defense has more flaws than edge. People are hyper fixated on edge but the Seahawks don't have an elite double digit edge rusher. But what they do have is a top tier rotation on the inside at DT and at edge.
Because if Crosby goes down the Bucs are back to where they were in 2025.
Crosby has a huge contract and as much as I'd love him I'm not willing to trade it all for him when we have so many glaring holes.
If I recall, Godwin and Crosby’s cap hits are almost identical for the next 2 seasons.
And, in the last 2 years of Maxx’s deal, his cap hit should be less than 8% of the projected cap.
Absolutely pull the trigger on this trade, if it only involves adding this year’s 1st rounder.
That's a big if on only a first. I'd be all for a 2nd + Godwin
I'd be good with 2026 1st rounder, Godwin, and maybe a 2027 3rd.
I see us ending up with some never will be or has been as OC. No one with an integrity is going to risk taking the job on a one year gamble. Plenty of other places with openings right now and who could blame them. I see Bowles being fired next year but we will have missed out on the chance to get a quality HC.
Another thing to keep in mind is that rookies seem to take a while to figure Bowles defense out. Bowles may try to trade for Crosby or other vets so he doesn’t have to rely on a rookie ( Like a Sonny Styles) to be productive in year 1.
