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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @firebowles2023

Grizz has the advantage of continuity that Coen had to CREATE.

This is the only part that puzzled me a bit. I get same system continuity but that has to be balanced against film. Coen surprised many defenses.  Credit to him but I anticipated Grizz would have tougher sledding because of no surprise but then the BENEFIT of "continuity" also vanished right? Because of injury? No irving and shuffled line over and over. 

 

the line was largely intact mar year  look at the snaps 

great post though 

What puzzles you? Coen came in after Canales and created a new system.

The whole point in keeping Grizz was keeping the same system that he was a part of in tact. 

I'm not talking about injury continuity BUT the personnel is almost exactly the same and he added Egbuka. There's very few players learning a new system (again I'm ignoring the very obvious injuries he's dealt with).

It seems to me that Grizz abandoned the unique run game Coen created and went hyper vanilla. Could that be due to injuries? Sure... But again I'll beat this drum:

The job of an ELITE play caller is making the whole greater than the sum of its parts.

Grizz imo has benefit from improv Baker and all that improv likely led to his injuries... Double edge sword.

I expect Grizz to have an excellent second half and I will sing his praise when that happens.

 

 

well what I meant shows up in the stats, I think.  My point was that part of last years amazing success was Coen surprising defenses. No film. 

if you compare the increase in scoring and yards that Coen created when he took over from Canales, it's install more than the increase and the production with Jax. Because it's lower increase (new system for existing talent) over year prior and overall performance (scoring and yards) against the league I would say some of that Coen not surprising defenses as much. 

I recognize talent plays a part but that's why I looked at both stats. Could definitely be wrong but if correct it would suggest Grizz shouldn't have the same kind of success without changing it up some (sequence, little twists etc)

 

Kind of my thinking too, but the o-line is key to allowing Grizz to “get in his bag) over the bye. I think getting Goedeke back at close to 100%, and finding a legit RG (Barton?) are keys to any tweaks Grizz comes up with.

I think learning to play-call through early, significant, injuries to the o-line and the same kind of implosion at WR & the starting RB - is like having one half of his brain tied behind his back - while achieving a 6-2 start - sounds pretty good. Some of that is due to Baker’s 1 & 2 minute scramble-drills saving our bacon, still it is impressive.

Once the parts are there, can he assemble them? Are we getting our horses back? If we do, who do we get back, and when? Roster is fairly deep, but how much will be available?

Do we keep all our horses when they get back?

Sure looks like this stew could come together, just not sure how long it will take? We have built some cushion with our wins, think we could lose the 3 big games remaining, but there’s always a surprise in there somewhere.

Lots of question marks. Can’t wait to see the answers.

 


 
Posted : Oct. 29, 2025 8:13 pm
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