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Posted by: @firebowles2026

his ability to develop as a pocket passer

He is damn good in the pocket.  This is why Harbaugh wasting his earlier years is so damning.  Lamar is a rare bird. 

This post is laughable as is your lovefest for a very mediocre QB that just happens to be an exceptional athlete. Come talk to me when Lamar can actually play in a Super Bowl first, and win won second. It's not ever going to happen.

 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 8:13 pm
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Everyone has a recency bias because of one year 

I've only talked about his performances in the playoffs. 

A sub-85 QB rating, 13 total touchdowns and 11 total turnovers in 8 games (3-5 record).


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 8:27 pm
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Pretty easy to test the theory that a designed run QB has a shorter productive output.  IIRC hes drafted with 4 or 5 other QBs including Mayfield? If that's right there a bunch of direct comparison including to Allen who maybe has some designed runs.

He's drafted a couple years later but what about a pocket passer like Burrow.  He's been out a bit

 

what is there % of games played


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 8:32 pm
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Posted by: @theknees

Posted by: @firebowles2026

his ability to develop as a pocket passer

He is damn good in the pocket.  This is why Harbaugh wasting his earlier years is so damning.  Lamar is a rare bird. 

This post is laughable as is your lovefest for a very mediocre QB that just happens to be an exceptional athlete. Come talk to me when Lamar can actually play in a Super Bowl first, and win won second. It's not ever going to happen.

 

But he's proven he can be a pocket passer. Wtf are you talking about "exceptional athlete". These are all exceptional athletes. You think Drake Maye and Sam Darnold aren't exceptional athletes that were drafted top3? 

 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 8:35 pm
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Everyone has a recency bias because of one year 

I've only talked about his performances in the playoffs. 

A sub-85 QB rating, 13 total touchdowns and 11 total turnovers in 8 games (3-5 record).

My very strong opinion about Jackson and Allen is when you play with sub par WRs, the QB who can carry a team during the regular season now is forced to do too much and presses.

Jackson in particular has seen his weapons shit the bed in critical moments... Dropping passes, fumbling into the end zone, etc 

Everyone remembers the stats but Josh Allen hit Cooks (a laughable wr1) on an out route and he couldn't get a 2nd foot inbounds then hit him with a deep ball and he couldn't hold on to the ball. What is Josh Allen supposed to do, throw the ball to himself?

Both of these great QBs rely on their legs and have had shitty weapons. In the playoffs it becomes damn near impossible to carry a team that way unless you're Mahomes being gifted calls left and right and even then he has sure handed Kelce.

 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 8:40 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2026

his ability to develop as a pocket passer

He is damn good in the pocket.  This is why Harbaugh wasting his earlier years is so damning.  Lamar is a rare bird. 

This post is laughable as is your lovefest for a very mediocre QB that just happens to be an exceptional athlete. Come talk to me when Lamar can actually play in a Super Bowl first, and win won second. It's not ever going to happen.

 

But he's proven he can be a pocket passer. Wtf are you talking about "exceptional athlete". These are all exceptional athletes. You think Drake Maye and Sam Darnold aren't exceptional athletes that were drafted top3? 

 

Look, I know you are all in your feels about Bowles and are one of the two that come to mind when I speak about Jackson's ineptitude at the QB position. He hasn't shown a dang thing except he folds like a cheap suit when the games matter most. You can blame it on his supporting cast if you'd like but he has NOT proven he can be a pocket passer at all. 

And in comparison to Lamar's physical gifts, no, Maye and Darnold are not exceptional athletes but they have been far better QB's than your boy Mushmouth this season. That is why they are still playing and Lamar isn't.

 


 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2026 9:02 pm
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