Glennon's int rate was a very good 2.2% (Manning's was 4.8% as a rookie). I would definitely put that in the plus column. On the other hand, I think was entirely too risk averse at times, particularly when we we were trailing and we were desperate for big plays. It's a balance thing. It's ok to take a sack in a tied game on 3rd and long with nobody open. It's not ok to take a sack on 3rd and long, trailing with little time left because everybody is covered (especially with V-Jax on the team). How much of that is him, or how much of that was pounded into his brain by Schiano/Sullivan/McNulty is a whole different issue.
That last line is a huge point for me, is his deficiencies a product of the Schiano fist rule, or is he incapable of running a successful NFL offense.
If he was a gunslinger in college and became much more conservative in the NFL then I think you could blame the coaching staff. However he's the same guy now he was in college.
fair point, although I doubt it has to be that extreme, its likely a little of both. Schiano probably liked him in college because he was conservative and he was probably even more conservative as a rookie in the NFL under Schiano
Waaaahahahh he's smart with the football. Waaaahahahh!!!
Someone who takes a sack when the team is losing and the clock is running out isn't being smart with the football. I'm talking about understanding the situation. I think he understands the situation great for much of the game. But there are times where he has to give a 6'-5" WR a chance - and that time is when there is no time.
Glennon's int rate was a very good 2.2% (Manning's was 4.8% as a rookie). I would definitely put that in the plus column. On the other hand, I think was entirely too risk averse at times, particularly when we we were trailing and we were desperate for big plays. It's a balance thing. It's ok to take a sack in a tied game on 3rd and long with nobody open. It's not ok to take a sack on 3rd and long, trailing with little time left because everybody is covered (especially with V-Jax on the team). How much of that is him, or how much of that was pounded into his brain by Schiano/Sullivan/McNulty is a whole different issue.
That last line is a huge point for me, is his deficiencies a product of the Schiano fist rule, or is he incapable of running a successful NFL offense.
If he was a gunslinger in college and became much more conservative in the NFL then I think you could blame the coaching staff. However he's the same guy now he was in college.
fair point, although I doubt it has to be that extreme, its likely a little of both. Schiano probably liked him in college because he was conservative and he was probably even more conservative as a rookie in the NFL under Schiano
Probably a lot of truth to this
I thought Glennon showed a bit of a gunslinger trait by throwing into very tight windows at NC State.
Glennon's int rate was a very good 2.2% (Manning's was 4.8% as a rookie). I would definitely put that in the plus column. On the other hand, I think was entirely too risk averse at times, particularly when we we were trailing and we were desperate for big plays. It's a balance thing. It's ok to take a sack in a tied game on 3rd and long with nobody open. It's not ok to take a sack on 3rd and long, trailing with little time left because everybody is covered (especially with V-Jax on the team). How much of that is him, or how much of that was pounded into his brain by Schiano/Sullivan/McNulty is a whole different issue.
That last line is a huge point for me, is his deficiencies a product of the Schiano fist rule, or is he incapable of running a successful NFL offense.
If he was a gunslinger in college and became much more conservative in the NFL then I think you could blame the coaching staff. However he's the same guy now he was in college.
I don't know - I don't recall him having trouble chucking it in college to the same extent.
He had the #65 YPA in college in 2012.
I've said all along I don't think INTs are all that bad for rookies. The reason Manning threw all those INTs is because he was trying to play like a great QB as a rookie but he wasn't great yet. Glennon threw a low number of INTs because he wasn't trying to play like a great QB. At some point if Glennon wants to be a great QB, he's going to have to try to play like one.
lol, the part in bold -- how in the heck would you know that?
I've said all along I don't think INTs are all that bad for rookies. The reason Manning threw all those INTs is because he was trying to play like a great QB as a rookie but he wasn't great yet. Glennon threw a low number of INTs because he wasn't trying to play like a great QB. At some point if Glennon wants to be a great QB, he's going to have to try to play like one.
lol, the part in bold -- how in the heck would you know that?
Lol 4real
The 2 most obvious reasons: no blocking TE for most of the season, and only 1 WR who could run a proper route for much of the season. I also think Glennon was more willing to wait on receivers to actually get open before throwing than Freeman was. And surely losing the threat of Doug Martin busting it was a factor... Glennon should be better this year under Tedford's system.
I've said all along I don't think INTs are all that bad for rookies. The reason Manning threw all those INTs is because he was trying to play like a great QB as a rookie but he wasn't great yet. Glennon threw a low number of INTs because he wasn't trying to play like a great QB. At some point if Glennon wants to be a great QB, he's going to have to try to play like one.
lol, the part in bold -- how in the heck would you know that?
Lol 4real
Ryan Leaf must have been trying to be the best QB EVER!!!
I've said all along I don't think INTs are all that bad for rookies. The reason Manning threw all those INTs is because he was trying to play like a great QB as a rookie but he wasn't great yet. Glennon threw a low number of INTs because he wasn't trying to play like a great QB. At some point if Glennon wants to be a great QB, he's going to have to try to play like one.
lol, the part in bold -- how in the heck would you know that?
Lol 4real
Ryan Leaf must have been trying to be the best QB EVER!!!
LOL he was playing balls to the wall.
TIL throwing more interceptions means you are trying to be great and taking more sacks means you are a bad QB.
I've said all along I don't think INTs are all that bad for rookies. The reason Manning threw all those INTs is because he was trying to play like a great QB as a rookie but he wasn't great yet. Glennon threw a low number of INTs because he wasn't trying to play like a great QB. At some point if Glennon wants to be a great QB, he's going to have to try to play like one.
lol, the part in bold -- how in the heck would you know that?
Lol 4real
Ryan Leaf must have been trying to be the best QB EVER!!!
LOL he was playing balls to the wall.
WORST.........LOGIC.........EVER
Dalbuc used to have a sentence he used - something along the lines of 'All posts on a message board should be read with the understand this is the writer's opinion.'
I've said all along I don't think INTs are all that bad for rookies. The reason Manning threw all those INTs is because he was trying to play like a great QB as a rookie but he wasn't great yet. Glennon threw a low number of INTs because he wasn't trying to play like a great QB. At some point if Glennon wants to be a great QB, he's going to have to try to play like one.
lol, the part in bold -- how in the heck would you know that?
Lol 4real
It should be pretty clear the two players adopted different risk/reward strategies in their rookie seasons. Manning was will to take more risks because his arm couldn't execute what his eyes could see was there and he threw a lot of INTs. After his rookie season, Manning received a tremendous reward for being able to complete these difficult plays. Glennon was anti-risk and thus didn't throw a lot of INTs, but he also didn't get much reward, as evidenced by his #37 YPA and the team having the #32 offense. If the Bucs are ever going to know reward with Glennon, he's going to have to take more risks, like Manning. But that's another thread. This thread was supposed to be how the Bucs gave up a monumental amount more sacks as soon as Glennon started playing.
Glennon's sacks are his fault and interceptions are now a good thing. Only on The Red Board does stupid junk like this get said.
