All things considered, Glennon did better than could be expected. With personnel upgrades and a full offseason to prepare, he should be more than just serviceable next year. Experience helps. Coaching changes and changes in the scheme could also help his development. I believe Peyton Manning had 3 wins in his rookie season. I don't understand why some here hold Glennon to a higher standard. Josh Freeman set franchise records, and the only area he is better than Glennon was mobility.........and experience. Cut the kid some slack. The 2013 Bucs weren't a good fit for any QB. Fix the team around him. Keep Aaron Rodgers' little brother and bring back McCown as a veteran backup. Just heard the Glazers blew the coaching staff and fired Schiano. it's a shame that they react to the stupidity of the fans. Schiano will be a great fit replacing O'Brian.
We have a solid back up QB. We need a starting QB. New GM and HC will agree.
We have a solid back up QB. We need a starting QB. New GM and HC will agree.
I already feel sorry for the new HC when he does that and all Glennons fans turn on him before he's even coached a game.Unless it's Lovie and he sticks with him, at that point I feel sorry for my eyes having to watch another year of awful offense.
Jdub, appreciate all the work you do finding prospects in the off season, but your out of your mind on the QB thing. Glennon is better than any rookie we could draft and with better coaching and an offensive scheme not based in the 1980's he'll have a very good year. I'm not so sure that any new HC or GM is going to agree 100% on your take of Glennon. I think we have to give him another year. His first year was a success in comparision to all other rookie QBs.
Agree with JDub, Glennon is okay but you need a game changer at QB to have any chance in today's NFL. That's not Glennon.
Okay, while I'm not a Glennon apologist, I do need some one to explain something to me.It's pretty much acknowledged that the offensive play calling sucked, so if that's correct, how can any reasonable person expect Glennon (rookie) to have had a winning record?It's also pretty much acknowledged that the offensive line sucked, so if that's correct, how can any reasonable person expect Glennon (a known pocket passer) to have taken less sacks or fumbled less when he was sacked?It's fact that Glennon wasn't playing with the same number of playmakers as our former franchise quarterback, but still managed a TD:INT ratio of 2:1 and had almost a 60% completion rate behind a porous offensive line with no running game to also take pressure off the passing game.Maybe I'm not as intelligent as some of the posters here, but I don't see how anyone can say that Glennon has reached his ceiling and that ceiling is only that of a backup. It makes more sense to me that if the guy had a better offensive coordinator, had his #2 receiver and his #1 running back healthy and had a decent offensive line, I would like to believe that he would put up better numbers. Maybe he'll never be Drew Brees or Payton Manning, but I think he could be better than what we saw this year, especially with a year to put on more weight, and work with trainers to improve his limited mobility.I think Glennon deserves a chance to be Plan A, but we definitely need a Plan B. What the next head coach and general manager need to figure out is whether Plan B is a veteran like Matt Schuab(sp?) or a #1 or #2 round draft pick. If it was me, I think I would go with the vet and spend the two picks on other players to help the team.
Not bad for a rookie with very few weapons and a garbage offensive line. He will probably always be serviceable, but never much to get excited about.
Agreed. I have never seen elite potential in Glennon, but I think he may be serviceable in the right system. I just hope he isn't that guy that's just good enough to prevent us from going after a guy that winds up being a franchise QB for someone else.
Okay, while I'm not a Glennon apologist, I do need some one to explain something to me.It's pretty much acknowledged that the offensive play calling sucked, so if that's correct, how can any reasonable person expect Glennon (rookie) to have had a winning record?It's also pretty much acknowledged that the offensive line sucked, so if that's correct, how can any reasonable person expect Glennon (a known pocket passer) to have taken less sacks or fumbled less when he was sacked?It's fact that Glennon wasn't playing with the same number of playmakers as our former franchise quarterback, but still managed a TD:INT ratio of 2:1 and had almost a 60% completion rate behind a porous offensive line with no running game to also take pressure off the passing game.Maybe I'm not as intelligent as some of the posters here, but I don't see how anyone can say that Glennon has reached his ceiling and that ceiling is only that of a backup. It makes more sense to me that if the guy had a better offensive coordinator, had his #2 receiver and his #1 running back healthy and had a decent offensive line, I would like to believe that he would put up better numbers. Maybe he'll never be Drew Brees or Payton Manning, but I think he could be better than what we saw this year, especially with a year to put on more weight, and work with trainers to improve his limited mobility.I think Glennon deserves a chance to be Plan A, but we definitely need a Plan B. What the next head coach and general manager need to figure out is whether Plan B is a veteran like Matt Schuab(sp?) or a #1 or #2 round draft pick. If it was me, I think I would go with the vet and spend the two picks on other players to help the team.
I agree with this 100%. I see no problem bringing in a plan B, but how much resources should we devote to it? A first or high 2nd pick will likely not allow the front office to give Glennon a fair shot due to the cost. A late round pick probably won't challenge him. Most decent free agent QBs will want to get paid and will most likely go to a team without a QB in place. The lower tier QBs probably won't challenge him. It will be interesting to see what they do.
We have a solid back up QB. We need a starting QB. New GM and HC will agree.
I already feel sorry for the new HC when he does that and all Glennons fans turn on him before he's even coached a game.Unless it's Lovie and he sticks with him, at that point I feel sorry for my eyes having to watch another year of awful offense.
We are 4-12 and you talk about Glennon's fans turning on the new Head Coach? Is this a joke?The new coach and GM can do whatever they want to. At 4-12 the barr isn't set real high!
We have a solid back up QB. We need a starting QB. New GM and HC will agree.
I already feel sorry for the new HC when he does that and all Glennons fans turn on him before he's even coached a game.Unless it's Lovie and he sticks with him, at that point I feel sorry for my eyes having to watch another year of awful offense.
We are 4-12 and you talk about Glennon's fans turning on the new Head Coach? Is this a joke?The new coach and GM can do whatever they want to. At 4-12 the barr isn't set real high!
Right, you must be new around here, welcome to the land of the excuses where people will stubbornly refuse to admit error and come up with the lamest of reasons why their guy had no part in the bad play of the team."He's only 24""If the grass was 0.5" shorter..."
We have a solid back up QB. We need a starting QB. New GM and HC will agree.
I already feel sorry for the new HC when he does that and all Glennons fans turn on him before he's even coached a game.Unless it's Lovie and he sticks with him, at that point I feel sorry for my eyes having to watch another year of awful offense.
We are 4-12 and you talk about Glennon's fans turning on the new Head Coach? Is this a joke?The new coach and GM can do whatever they want to. At 4-12 the barr isn't set real high!
We were 4-12 the year before Schiano and people turned on him pretty quick.
We have a solid back up QB. We need a starting QB. New GM and HC will agree.
I already feel sorry for the new HC when he does that and all Glennons fans turn on him before he's even coached a game.Unless it's Lovie and he sticks with him, at that point I feel sorry for my eyes having to watch another year of awful offense.
We are 4-12 and you talk about Glennon's fans turning on the new Head Coach? Is this a joke?The new coach and GM can do whatever they want to. At 4-12 the barr isn't set real high!
Right, you must be new around here, welcome to the land of the excuses where people will stubbornly refuse to admit error and come up with the lamest of reasons why their guy had no part in the bad play of the team."He's only 24""If the grass was 0.5" shorter..."
There is a difference between a reason and an excuse. Being a rookie, having multiple injuries to skill positions, and lousy playcalling are legit reasons. Despite all of that Glennon played well overall and tied a rookie record for multiple touchdown games while only playing in 13 games. Just because he wasn't a first round pick and you can't tape his picture up over your toilet doesn't mean he doesn't have potential to be a really good QB. It is widely accepted that there are 4 elite QBs in this league. Glennon had more wins his rookie season than all 4 of them put together.
Glennon is a check down machine averaging a measly 6 yards per attempt. He's the worst QB in the division by far. His arm is average at best and he brings nothing in the run game. That's why I say keep looking for a game changer at QB. You HAVE to have one to compete.
Glennon isn't cute enough for this board!
Year Age ? Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G RateManning 1998 22 IND QB 18 16 16 3-13 326 575 56.7 3739 26 28 4.9 78 6.5 5.2 11.5 233.7 71.2Brady 2001* 24 NWE QB 12 15 0 11-3 264 413 63.9 2843 18 12 2.9 91 6.9 6.4 10.8 189.5 86.5Brees 2002 23 SDG QB 9 16 16 8-8 320 526 60.8 3284 17 16 3 52 6.2 5.5 10.3 205.3 76.9Rodgers2008 25 GNB QB 12 16 16 6-10 341 536 63.6 4038 28 13 2.4 71 7.5 7.5 11.8 252.4 93.8Glennon 2013 24 TAM QB 8 13 13 4-9 247 416 59.4 2608 19 9 2.2 85 6.3 6.2 10.6 200.6 83.9seems to measure up well to me
