Ok fair... Thanks.
But Licht extending Bowles and not firing him is his fault
Again, owners make decisions on head coaches. I have no idea where Licht was on the Bowles/Coen debate, but the fact that Licht & Bowles were both extended at the same time points toward ownership.
But I agree, if it was Licht’s recommendation to go with Bowles over Coen and the Glazers listened? GTFO territory
I feel like a good GM commands the huddle... If we are letting the Glazers determine our coach we are never going to be good... These guys have ruined the best soccer club in England.
It's partially due to that and the fact that we have zero ability in FA to be competitive.
The team signed contracts that valued over $400M in 2024’s offseason.
I feel like a good GM commands the huddle... If we are letting the Glazers determine our coach we are never going to be good... These guys have ruined the best soccer club in England.
Not sure what to tell you. The owners decide on who coaches the team.
Have you watched the Amazon doc? That will clear the picture a little bit. Good (Dungy, Gruden, & Arians) or bad (Raheem/Schiano/Lovie), the owners make the ultimate decision.
155-181
That is your GM and HC combined overall records.
LOSERS! 46% winning %
LOSERS
Anyone giving a penny to the Glazers are idiots. THEY are STEALING money. How can anyone defend keeping 2 massive losers on staff?
I am listening...make it good
It's partially due to that and the fact that we have zero ability in FA to be competitive.
The team signed contracts that valued over $400M in 2024’s offseason.
What a hilariously disingenuous way to put it lmfao.
You're referencing a bunch of players resigned....many of which you could easily argue have been bad contracts.
Baker - good contract
Evans - ok contract if you ignore him missing this year
Breadson - meh
Winfield - wildly underperformed since his deal
McCollum - awful contact
Godwin - awful but necessary contact
Nelson - good context
David - bad contract on a washed player
Trask - lol
None of this screams "improving the team with cap space"
We signed Vildor, JPP, Hall, Gaines, Dixon... WOW we really made a run at it like the Patriots!
What a hilariously disingenuous way to put it lmfao.
SOP for Biggs and his ilk.
"White is RB1... "
"film show Mayfield ..."
"I heard from a friend that I am right"
Evans - ok contract if you ignore him missing this year
Godwin - awful but necessary contact
David - bad contract on a washed player
3 cornerstone players who they were giving contract to no matter what and who they must have had concerns about on the field production
It's partially due to that and the fact that we have zero ability in FA to be competitive.
The team signed contracts that valued over $400M in 2024’s offseason.
What a hilariously disingenuous way to put it lmfao.
You're referencing a bunch of players resigned....many of which you could easily argue have been bad contracts.
Baker - good contract
Evans - ok contract if you ignore him missing this year
Breadson - meh
Winfield - wildly underperformed since his deal
McCollum - awful contact
Godwin - awful but necessary contact
Nelson - good context
David - bad contract on a washed player
Trask - lol
None of this screams "improving the team with cap space"
We signed Vildor, JPP, Hall, Gaines, Dixon... WOW we really made a run at it like the Patriots!
Disingenuous? It’s reality. The salary cap didn’t prevent the team from handing out over $400M worth of contracts that offseason. Am I making that up? Or did the team hand out those contacts?
They clearly had the ability to be active in FA. You can argue about the players (you left off Wirfs) and the contract amounts all you want. But you can’t argue that the team didn’t hand out over $400M worth of contracts. The salary cap didn’t stop them.
The team performed similar to the 2014-2019 teams. Those teams all missed the playoffs under 3 different head coaches.
Bucs were completely void of talent at iOL, TE, Edge, ILB.
Only difference is the talent gap is due to dead cap. Those other teams had awful FA acquisitions
Our latest talent gap is due to bad drafting. Same as the last.
this team is more talented than New Orleans, Atlanta, Carolina, and Miami. We should at the very least finished 10-7 but realistically 11-6
Baker played like shit, the play calling was bad on both sides of the ball.
Do we have the talent of the Eagles? No. BUT maybe only a handful of teams can say they do. They have the best GM in football
The collapse this year had nothing to do with talent and everything to do with play calling, execution, and a few critical bonehead Baker plays. A 10 yard completion instead of Atlanta INT for example and we win that game. Not turning it over 3 times in Miami territory and we win that game.
this team should have at least made the playoffs and the coaching staff lost the locker room
Hell, the NFL gave us many favorable calls on Saturday and we barely won the game.
Grizzard is god awful. As others have said, we look SB bound on the first drive then go full retard the rest of the game.
this collapse had nothing to do with talent
PFF had our roster in the same tier as the Panthers, Saints, Falcons, Giants, Cardinals, Steelers. Some other non playoff team I'm forgetting. I posted each individual player and asked if anyone disagreed and nobody did. Licht didn't build a good roster in 2025.
It's partially due to that and the fact that we have zero ability in FA to be competitive.
The team signed contracts that valued over $400M in 2024’s offseason.
What a hilariously disingenuous way to put it lmfao.
You're referencing a bunch of players resigned....many of which you could easily argue have been bad contracts.
Baker - good contract
Evans - ok contract if you ignore him missing this year
Breadson - meh
Winfield - wildly underperformed since his deal
McCollum - awful contact
Godwin - awful but necessary contact
Nelson - good context
David - bad contract on a washed player
Trask - lol
None of this screams "improving the team with cap space"
We signed Vildor, JPP, Hall, Gaines, Dixon... WOW we really made a run at it like the Patriots!
Disingenuous? It’s reality. The salary cap didn’t prevent the team from handing out over $400M worth of contracts that offseason. Am I making that up? Or did the team hand out those contacts?
They clearly had the ability to be active in FA. You can argue about the players (you left off Wirfs) and the contract amounts all you want. But you can’t argue that the team didn’t hand out over $400M worth of contracts. The salary cap didn’t stop them.
Well first off let's talk in terms of per year not total spent... That just makes it silly.
Licht spent money keeping the roster together. He didn't ADD anything to the roster because he's been trying to get out of dead cap hell.
The outside players we brought in are a fucking joke.
And while I understand many of the resigning we made, the reality is the doubled down on the current roster and didn't try to improve it.
If he wanted to improve it he wouldn't have given McCollum a premature contract. He wouldn't have signed David over other options at LB.
Reddick was a decent swing but in hindsight it made sense that 10m to a guy that sat out a year to play in Japan didn't work out.
It's partially due to that and the fact that we have zero ability in FA to be competitive.
The team signed contracts that valued over $400M in 2024’s offseason.
What a hilariously disingenuous way to put it lmfao.
You're referencing a bunch of players resigned....many of which you could easily argue have been bad contracts.
Baker - good contract
Evans - ok contract if you ignore him missing this year
Breadson - meh
Winfield - wildly underperformed since his deal
McCollum - awful contact
Godwin - awful but necessary contact
Nelson - good context
David - bad contract on a washed player
Trask - lol
None of this screams "improving the team with cap space"
We signed Vildor, JPP, Hall, Gaines, Dixon... WOW we really made a run at it like the Patriots!
Disingenuous? It’s reality. The salary cap didn’t prevent the team from handing out over $400M worth of contracts that offseason. Am I making that up? Or did the team hand out those contacts?
They clearly had the ability to be active in FA. You can argue about the players (you left off Wirfs) and the contract amounts all you want. But you can’t argue that the team didn’t hand out over $400M worth of contracts. The salary cap didn’t stop them.
Well first off let's talk in terms of per year not total spent... That just makes it silly.
Licht spent money keeping the roster together. He didn't ADD anything to the roster because he's been trying to get out of dead cap hell.
The outside players we brought in are a fucking joke.
And while I understand many of the resigning we made, the reality is the doubled down on the current roster and didn't try to improve it.
If he wanted to improve it he wouldn't have given McCollum a premature contract. He wouldn't have signed David over other options at LB.
Reddick was a decent swing but in hindsight it made sense that 10m to a guy that sat out a year to play in Japan didn't work out.
So did the salary cap prevent the Buccaneers giving out $400M in contracts that offseason or not?
They could have given those contracts outside FA’s if they chose to do so. But they did not.
Agreed.
Bucs spent money on their own and lost that gamble. I think since they are out of cap jail now for this upcoming off season they go in a different direction.
Licht's weakness has been free agent evaluation internal and external up to this point. I have no complaints about his drafting though. 2025 draft looks brilliant if you consider how it sets up a solid foundation for 2026 and beyond.
